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#1 Posted : Sunday, June 11, 2017 2:30:03 PM(UTC)
Driver Gear in FM7 (updated August 17)



Driver Gear is the character customization feature in FM7. You can enter this menu from the Home tab or from pre-race options. You can switch gear as often as you like, and switch the gender for each suit. Your gear will be noticeable in lobbies and during races by other players. You cannot buy locked suits directly; suits are unlocked via random Milestone Reward option, buying Prize Crates with in-game credits, or as Rewards from Forza Drivers Cup career progress or special Rivals, Leagues, or Forzathon events.
Notes:
  • See the lower right corner of the screen to toggle male/female body styles for each suit.
  • There are seven basic helmet styles, some with additional textures for themed costumes.
  • There are no suits that show faces (as seen with FH3 character choices).
  • Helmets and suits are a set; mixing isn't featured, and players can't paint them.
  • 36 Country flag suits
  • 28 Race Track suits (Brands Hatch, Daytona, Lime Rock, Sonoma are currently not listed)
  • 48 Car Manufacturer suits (out of 90+ represented by car models; no explanation or addition date provided)
  • 240+ other themes in Patterns, Team Colors, Pop Culture, and Forza Favorites
  • As of March 2018 additions there are nearly 450 known suits, including over two dozen DLC code suits
  • Loyalty Rewards offered a Forza Motorsport/Horizon-themed suit for each Tier when you start - ONLY to your current Tier when you start; not available to add more as you increase your Tier; not available via Prize Crates or Milestone rewards

See post #4 for images of Hoonigan, VIP, and Retailer pre-order bonus DLC suits, and NorCalNavyMike's pics for retailer and promo suits.

DLC & Gifts - added to menus with DLC or unlocked/gifted as special event rewards.
Alienware - (DLC) promo
Amazon - (DLC) preorder
Be Mine - Leagues (Feb) and Valentine's Day^
Best Buy - (DLC) preorder
(Carnival - see Sambadrome)
Champions (Pattern General) - Gift (Feb)
Climbkhana - (DLC) Hoonigan Car Pack
Clown - Halloween Bash gift
Creeper
Diamond Armor - (DLC) Minecraft promo (Apr)
Doritos - (DLC) every60seconds.com marketplace
Driven to Win - (DLC) preorder from ShopTo
Early Drive - (DLC) preorder
EB Games - (DLC) preorder
First to the Track - (DLC) preorder from EB Games
Forza RC - ForzaRC stream (March)
Forza RC Seattle - ForzaRC stream (June)
GAME - (DLC) preorder
Gamestop - (DLC) preorder
Gears of War 4 - (DLC) play Gears of War 4 (Nov)
Gingerbread Man - Leagues (Dec)
Green Light Means Go Fast - (DLC) preorder from GAME
Gymkhana - not Hoonigan Car Pack?
Halo Race Suit - (DLC) play Halo games (Dec)
Hyundai Veloster - Rivals event ending March 31
Ice Break - (DLC) promotion
JD - (Gears of War) Rivals event
Jockey - Leagues (Jan)
Kait - (Gears of War) Rivals event
Master Chief - (Halo) Rivals event Jan 5^
Microsoft - (DLC) preorder digital
Olympia Vale - (Halo) Rivals event, gifted Jan 5^
Party On - New Year's Eve gift^ and Bounty Hunter (Jan)^
Race Marshal - for members of the Forza Race Marshal program
Ready to Go - (DLC) Xbox Live Virtual Key promotion, Xbox Rewards VIP Gems
Road Show - (DLC) E3 attendees, gamescom, The Game Awards viewers
Sambadrome - Leagues (Feb)
Stay Frosty - snowman gifted at Christmas
Taco Bell - (DLC) promotion
The Driver Abides - gift for forum respondents (March)
The Stig's Digital Cousin - Top Gear Car Pack DLC
Totino's - (DLC) promotion
Tropic Storm - (DLC) every60seconds.com marketplace (Mountain Dew)
Turn 10 Studios - developers only
(Valentines - see Be Mine)
VIP Black
VIP Blue
VIP Purple
VIP White
VIP Yellow

Viva Pinata - Gift (May)
Wolf Pack - Leagues (Dec)
Year of the Dog - Gift (Feb)

Most of the locked suits in each menu are unlocked via Driver Level Milestone Reward choices or from buying Prize Crates. Once Milestone Rewards cycle through the regular Driver Gear choices, the suit spot will be replaced by 5 random Mod Cards and the rest of locked suits will only be obtainable from buying prize crates.

FORZA FAVORITES
Alienware - promotional DLC
Alpha Gear
Amazon - preorder DLC
Best Buy - preorder DLC
Breakout Championship & Elite
Climbkhana - Hoonigan DLC
Diamond Armor - Minecraft promo DLC^
Domination Championship & Elite
Doritos - promotional DLC
Driven to Win - preorder DLC
Early Drive - preorder DLC
Endurance
Evolution Championship & Elite
First to the Track - preorder DLC
Forza Driver's Cup Champion & Elite
Forza Horizon/Motorsport suits are only available when you start the game based on Loyalty Rewards - there's no way to later unlock the ones you don't have from the start.
Forza Horizon 1 - Tier 7 Loyalty Reward
Forza Horizon 2 - Tier 5 Loyalty Reward
Forza Horizon 3 - Tier 3 Loyalty Reward
Forza Motorsport 1 - Tier 11 Loyalty Reward
Forza Motorsport 2 - Tier 10 Loyalty Reward
Forza Motorsport 3 - Tier 9 Loyalty Reward
Forza Motorsport 4 - Tier 8 Loyalty Reward
Forza Motorsport 5 - Tier 6 Loyalty Reward
Forza Motorsport 6 - Tier 4 Loyalty Reward
Forza Motorsport 7 - Tier 2 Loyalty Reward
Forza RC - Forza Racing Championship livestream reward
Forza RC Seattle - ForzaRC stream (added June 5)^
GAME- preorder DLC
Gamestop- preorder DLC
Gears of War - promotional DLC
Genesis
Grand Touring - Prize Crates (July)^
Grassroots
Gymkhana (locked, TBA)
Halo Race Suit - promotional DLC
Ice Break - promotional DLC
JD - Rivals reward (Nov. - Gears of War)
Kait - Rivals reward (Nov. - Gears of War)
M. Rossi (locked, TBA)
Master Chief - Rivals reward (Dec. - Halo)
Masters Championship & Elite
Michael Muller
Microsoft - preorder DLC
Minecraft Creeper - Rivals (Apr)
Olympia - Rivals reward (Dec. - Halo)
Pit Crew
Race Marshal - Forza Race Marshals only
Ready to Go - promotional DLC
Road Show - promotional DLC
Seeker Championship & Elite
Taco Bell - promotional DLC
Tanner Foust (locked, TBA)
Turn 10 Studios - developers only
Ukyo Takagi
VIP colors - DLC

POP CULTURE
After Dinner - spotted in pre-release videos
Alley Cat - Leagues (July)^, (added March 6)
Astronaut Classic - Bounty Hunter Rivals (May)^ (added March 6)
Astronaut Modern - Forzathon (Nov)^, ForzaRC stream (Apr)^
Autocrat - Bounty Hunter Rivals (May)^ (added March 6)
Band Leader Blue
Band Leader Green
Band Leader Orange (added March 6, TBA)
Band Leader Pink
Bandit - ForzaRC stream reward (Apr)^
Baseball Away Jersey
Baseball Catcher
Baseball Home Jersey
Be Mine - Leagues reward and gift (Feb)
Biker
Black Ninja
Blue Robot - Leagues (March)^
Boo! - Prize Crates (Oct)
Brooklands - Bounty Hunter Rivals (May)^ (added April 19)
Business Suit
Cheerleader
Chef
Clown - Prize Crates (Oct) and (July)^
Construction Worker
Cop - ForzaRC stream (May)^
Crash Dummy - Leagues (Apr)^
Crashed, Dummy - Leagues (Apr)^ (added March 6)
Crook
Cyber
Dancer
Day of the Dead - Prize Crates (Oct)
Disco - Tanner Foust Challenge (Apr)^
Diver - ForzaRC stream (August)^
Doctor
Farmer
Fill 'Er Up - Forzathon (May)^
Finish First - Forzathon (June)^ (added March 6)
Firefighter Black - Leagues (June)^
Firefighter Brown
Firefighter Tan - Bounty Hunter Rivals (May)^ (added March 6)
First of Firsts
Fleek - Bounty Hunter Rivals (May)^
Football Away Jersey - (added March 6, TBA)
Football Home Jersey - (added March 6, TBA)
Football Referee
Gen Pop
Gingerbread Man - Leagues (Dec)
Golfer
Good Knight
Grease Monkey - Leagues (March), Forzathon (July)^
Greaser
Gridiron Glory - (added March 6, TBA)
Gutter Ball
Happy Trails - Forzathon (July)^
High Flyer - Leagues (Feb)^
Hip Hop
Home on the Range - (added March 6, TBA)
Jack Rabbit - (added March 6, TBA)
Jockey - Leagues (Jan)
Just Drive
Karateka
Kiss the Cook - Forzathon (June)^
Knight of the Round Circuit - ForzaRC stream (June)
Letterman
Life of Leisure - spotted in pre-release videos
Lucha Libre - Leagues (Apr)^ (added April 19)
Lucky - Gift (March 16)
Mechanic - Forzathon (August)^
Midnight - ForzaRC stream (August)^
Mime - Bounty Hunter Rivals (May)^
Modern Pilot - Leagues (June)^, (added June 5)^
Motion Capture - Forzathon^, Rivals (July)^
Moto - (added March 6, TBA)
Motorcycle Cop - Leagues (May)^
Mummy - Prize Crates (Oct)
Nurse
Paintball - (added March 6, TBA)
Party On! - Rivals reward (Jan)
Pleat
Push it to the Limit - (added March 6, TBA)
Real McCoy
Rebel Red
Red Ninja
Referee - Bounty Hunter Rivals (June/July)^, Rivals (July)^
Revenge
Riveting - Leagues (August)^
Roosted - (added March 6, TBA)
Rose
Samurai
Skeleton - Prize Crates (Oct)
Skulluflage - Forzathon (June)^
Snake - Forzathon (Apr)^
Soda Jerk - Forzathon (July)^, (added March 6)
Spa Day - ForzaRC stream (June)^
Spectre - (added April 19, TBA)
Sprocket Squid - (added March 6, TBA)
Stay Frosty - Gift (Dec)
Surely You Joust - Forzathon (March)
Swirl - Leagues (Jan)
The Driver Abides - Gift (March)
Think Pink - Forzathon (August)^ (added April 19)
Tracksuit
True Blue - Forzathon (July)^, (added March 6)
Tuxedo - Forza Drivers Cup completion
Tuxedo Blue
Tuxedo Orange
Unnatural Pairings - ProAm Rivals (July)^
Vicious - ForzaRC stream (June)^, Leagues (August)^
Victory Bandit
Viva Pinata - Gift for Cinco de Mayo^ (added April 19)
Welder
White Ninja
Wolf Pack - Leagues reward (Dec)
Young Urban Professional - Rivals reward (Apr)^
Your Majesty - Leagues (May)^ (added March 6)

TEAM COLORS
(each comes in Black, Blue, Brown, Green, Grey, Light Blue, Lime, Orange, Pink, Purple, Red, Tan, Teal, White, Yellow)
Finish First
Pro Driver
Prorata
Team Forza

PATTERN GENERAL
Baller - (added March 6, TBA)
Before Dawn
Blue Steel
Brown Leopard
Champions - Gift (Feb)
Day-Glo Jungle
Earth First - (added March 6, TBA)
Freezer Burn - Forzathon (Jan)
Giraffe
Houndstooth (multiple color variants)
Jungle
Kiss the Cook - Forzathon (June)^ (added June 5)
Liberty - Gift (July)^, (added June 5)^
Land, Sea, Sky
Movable Feast
Night Driver
Plaid
Rad
Safe and Sane - (added June 5, TBA)^
Southwest Sunset
Tetrapod
Three Six Zero
Triangles
Tubular
Vintage Racing (multiple color variants)
Year of the Dog - Gift (Feb. - Chinese New Year)

PATTERN CAMO
Desert Blend
Flurries
Fresh Air
Naturally
Same As Sand
Snowstorm
Swirl
Tech Camouflage (multiple color variants)
Triangle
Winter Visage
...For the Trees

CARS
Not all manufacturers are included. There hasn't been any info about why or if they might be added. DLC cars like Lincoln and MG have also not been added.
Abarth
Acura
Alfa Romeo
Alumi Craft
AMC
Aston Martin
Audi
BAC
Bentley
Bowler
Brabham
Bugatti
Buick
Cadillac
Caterham
Chevrolet
Chrysler
Dodge
Donkervoort
GMC
Hennessey
Holden
Honda
HSV
Hummer
Hyundai
Infiniti
Jeep
Koenigsegg
KTM
Lamborghini
Local Motors
Maserati
Mazda
McLaren
Mercedes-Benz
Meyers
Mitsubishi
Nissan
Noble
Pagani
Polaris
Pontiac
Porsche
RAM
SRT
Subaru
Ultima

RACE TRACKS
Barcelona-Catalunya
Bathurst, Mount Panorama
Bernese Alps
Brands Hatch - MISSING
Circuit of the Americas
Daytona is not included. No info available.
Dubai
Hockenheimring
Homestead-Miami Speedway
Indy
Le Mans de la Sarthe
Lime Rock is not included. No info available.
Long Beach
Maple Valley
Mazda Laguna Seca
Monza
Mugello Autodromo Internazionale
Nurburgring
Prague
Rio de Janeiro
Road America
Road Atlanta
Sebring
Silverstone
Sonoma is not included. No info available.
Spa
Suzuka
Test Track Airfield
Top Gear
Virginia International Raceway
Watkins Glen International
Yas Marina, Abu Dhabi

COUNTRY FLAGS
Argentina
Australia
Austria
Belgium
Brazil
Canada
Chile
China
Colombia
Denmark
Finland
France
Germany
Greece
Hungary
India
Ireland
Italy
Japan
Mexico
New Zealand
Norway
Poland
Portugal
Singapore
Slovakia
South Africa
South Korea
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
The Czech Republic
The Netherlands
The United Kingdom
The United States
Turkey


____
FORZA MOTORSPORT 7 FIRST LOOK: THE SERIES REFOCUSES ON ITS DRIVERS
How Turn 10 is trying to make more than just a prettier sequel
by Sean O'Kane@sokane1 Jun 11, 2017, 5:11pm EDT
https://www.theverge.com/games/2017/6/11/15770948/e3-2017-forza-motorsport-7-scorpio-play-story

Quote:
"What’s more, each one of the five discrete pieces that makes up a character (the helmet, the suit, etc.) has its own 4K asset. Zoom in on a helmet and you’ll see realistic scuffs and smudges on the visor — and on some special helmets, signatures that look like they were just Sharpie-d on.


Quote:
Players will be able to choose between everything from real race suits with HANS devices, to old-timey outfits with leather helmets, to some even goofier additions from pop culture. (Expect a lot of “era-specific inside jokes,” Lee laughs. “There's a lot of middle-aged people that work here.”) With Forza featuring real racing series like IndyCar and NASCAR, you can also expect to see some more iconic suits as well, set to be announced later this summer.

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#2 Posted : Sunday, June 11, 2017 2:47:56 PM(UTC)
VIDEO

Driver Gear menu from September (before game launch):
Originally Posted by: V562 Go to Quoted Post
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWCJiote5K0



E3 PROMO PICS


E3 Media images^





Originally Posted by: ManteoMax Go to Quoted Post
Is this a luchador mask? Is it generic or identifiable from another source?


https://twitter.com/ForzaMotorsport/status/897475925897486336



HELMET STYLES

Originally Posted by: ManteoMax Go to Quoted Post


STANDARD


STANDARD + BITS


HANS DEVICE


MOTORCROSS - added March 6


OPEN CHIN


OPEN + BANDANA


LEATHER

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#3 Posted : Sunday, June 11, 2017 2:53:26 PM(UTC)
This has been one thing I have enjoyed about Ride 2 and to see it make its way to Forza is awesome! Hopefully we get real driver helmets and suits like Ride 2 has.
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#4 Posted : Sunday, June 11, 2017 2:58:39 PM(UTC)
PRE-ORDER DLC


CLIMBKHANA (HOONIGAN CAR PACK WITH DIGITAL PREORDERS)


VIP (BLACK, BLUE, PURPLE, WHITE, YELLOW)







RETAILER BONUSES - credit to NorCalNavyMike for garage pics


AMAZON



AMAZON? ("Early Drive")


BEST BUY (U.S.)



EBGAMES and blue/green suit ("First to the Track")




EBGAMES and green suit


GAME (U.K.) and orange suit ("Green Light Means Go Fast")




GAMESTOP



MICROSOFT (digital)


SHOPTO Yellow and Red ("Driven to Win")


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#5 Posted : Sunday, June 11, 2017 3:09:26 PM(UTC)
It'd be cool if you could "assign" different characters to different cars, or in other words, have a modern-looking racer when driving a modern car, and one of the vintage-looking racers when driving a vintage race car.
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#6 Posted : Sunday, June 11, 2017 3:12:10 PM(UTC)
I never really cared for this, but I have always seen people requesting this, so this will please a lot.
I guess it will be nice to be able to choose between Forza and Alpinestars gloves though.
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#7 Posted : Sunday, June 11, 2017 3:13:18 PM(UTC)
Do we have an option to choose gender?
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#8 Posted : Sunday, June 11, 2017 3:20:50 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: MMMappy Charleo Go to Quoted Post
Do we have an option to choose gender?


Yes
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#9 Posted : Sunday, June 11, 2017 3:37:36 PM(UTC)
Finally, no more photos ruined by historically out of place outfits and helmets. Woo hoo
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#10 Posted : Sunday, June 11, 2017 4:09:17 PM(UTC)
In-between painstakingly modelling scuffs on visors and the like, have they found time to improve the underlying game or is it just Forza 6 with weather, a few new cars and tracks and character modelling which most people won't care less about as you can't see yourself while driving?
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#11 Posted : Sunday, June 11, 2017 5:22:17 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: xdlugia Go to Quoted Post
I never really cared for this, but I have always seen people requesting this, so this will please a lot.
I guess it will be nice to be able to choose between Forza and Alpinestars gloves though.

Looking forward to changing the gloves a lot actually...
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#12 Posted : Sunday, June 11, 2017 5:45:20 PM(UTC)
Wonder if/when we'll be able to design the race suits/helmets... FM8?
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#13 Posted : Monday, June 12, 2017 9:11:54 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: FullNietzsche Go to Quoted Post
In-between painstakingly modelling scuffs on visors and the like, have they found time to improve the underlying game or is it just Forza 6 with weather, a few new cars and tracks and character modelling which most people won't care less about as you can't see yourself while driving?


Ive seen you complaining in a lot of threads recently and Id like to ask you....What the hell is your problem? We'll get dynamic weather, driver costumization, actual pitstops (pretty likely) and 4K resolution. What do you want???

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#14 Posted : Monday, June 12, 2017 9:22:41 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: GER FIXER303 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: FullNietzsche Go to Quoted Post
In-between painstakingly modelling scuffs on visors and the like, have they found time to improve the underlying game or is it just Forza 6 with weather, a few new cars and tracks and character modelling which most people won't care less about as you can't see yourself while driving?


Ive seen you complaining in a lot of threads recently and Id like to ask you....What the hell is your problem? We'll get dynamic weather, driver costumization, actual pitstops (pretty likely) and 4K resolution. What do you want???

This^^^ be happy were getting new stuff and we barely know anything about the game yet!
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#15 Posted : Monday, June 12, 2017 9:37:29 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: FullNietzsche Go to Quoted Post
In-between painstakingly modelling scuffs on visors and the like, have they found time to improve the underlying game or is it just Forza 6 with weather, a few new cars and tracks and character modelling which most people won't care less about as you can't see yourself while driving?


Only under 20% player using cockpit view. but it doesn't mean to cockpit view is unnecessary.
and some player who using first person view are even don't care about how car looks like. All details are no meaning to this people.
Are you one of them?
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#16 Posted : Monday, June 12, 2017 9:53:55 AM(UTC)
I love to use cockpit view. It's one way of really experiencing each car individually as opposed to their outside body styles which can be very similar. You get the feel of actually being in the car and that goes a long way towards immersion for me at least. It's not the main selling point, driver customizing, but I'd be lying if I said I'd never use it.

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#17 Posted : Monday, June 12, 2017 11:40:41 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: GER FIXER303 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: FullNietzsche Go to Quoted Post
In-between painstakingly modelling scuffs on visors and the like, have they found time to improve the underlying game or is it just Forza 6 with weather, a few new cars and tracks and character modelling which most people won't care less about as you can't see yourself while driving?


Ive seen you complaining in a lot of threads recently and Id like to ask you....What the hell is your problem? We'll get dynamic weather, driver costumization, actual pitstops (pretty likely) and 4K resolution. What do you want???


What do I want? None of those things - they're icing on a rotten cake. FM6 has serious problems which many people have pointed out again and again, and it falls on deaf ears.

What I want is for the underlying failings to be fixed at last. If nobody complains, they never will be.

I got fooled into buying FM6, I won't make that mistake with 7. I have paid a lot of money on Forza and have every right to voice my criticisms so long as I'm not breaking any forum rules.
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#18 Posted : Monday, June 12, 2017 11:46:48 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: FullNietzsche Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: GER FIXER303 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: FullNietzsche Go to Quoted Post
In-between painstakingly modelling scuffs on visors and the like, have they found time to improve the underlying game or is it just Forza 6 with weather, a few new cars and tracks and character modelling which most people won't care less about as you can't see yourself while driving?


Ive seen you complaining in a lot of threads recently and Id like to ask you....What the hell is your problem? We'll get dynamic weather, driver costumization, actual pitstops (pretty likely) and 4K resolution. What do you want???


What do I want? None of those things - they're icing on a rotten cake. FM6 has serious problems which many people have pointed out again and again, and it falls on deaf ears.

What I want is for the underlying failings to be fixed at last. If nobody complains, they never will be.

I got fooled into buying FM6, I won't make that mistake with 7. I have paid a lot of money on Forza and have every right to voice my criticisms so long as I'm not breaking any forum rules.


What underlying failings would those be, exactly?
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#19 Posted : Monday, June 12, 2017 12:11:42 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Stang616 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: FullNietzsche Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: GER FIXER303 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: FullNietzsche Go to Quoted Post
In-between painstakingly modelling scuffs on visors and the like, have they found time to improve the underlying game or is it just Forza 6 with weather, a few new cars and tracks and character modelling which most people won't care less about as you can't see yourself while driving?


Ive seen you complaining in a lot of threads recently and Id like to ask you....What the hell is your problem? We'll get dynamic weather, driver costumization, actual pitstops (pretty likely) and 4K resolution. What do you want???


What do I want? None of those things - they're icing on a rotten cake. FM6 has serious problems which many people have pointed out again and again, and it falls on deaf ears.

What I want is for the underlying failings to be fixed at last. If nobody complains, they never will be.

I got fooled into buying FM6, I won't make that mistake with 7. I have paid a lot of money on Forza and have every right to voice my criticisms so long as I'm not breaking any forum rules.


What underlying failings would those be, exactly?


What a great question. Hes talking about those failures but doesnt explain what they are. So please, enlighten us.

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#20 Posted : Monday, June 12, 2017 9:26:33 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: GER FIXER303 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: FullNietzsche Go to Quoted Post
In-between painstakingly modelling scuffs on visors and the like, have they found time to improve the underlying game or is it just Forza 6 with weather, a few new cars and tracks and character modelling which most people won't care less about as you can't see yourself while driving?


Ive seen you complaining in a lot of threads recently and Id like to ask you....What the hell is your problem? We'll get dynamic weather, driver costumization, actual pitstops (pretty likely) and 4K resolution. What do you want???


You are willing to pay $60 + another $60 or so for DLC, so total $120 for dynamic weather "already in Horizon 3, and base weather already in Forza 6" driver customization "DOES NOT EFFECT GAMEPLAY" and pit stops "again has no impact on gameplay"? Give me your email, I have some oil to sell you. Right from the fangs of a viper, it will cure all your ailments, you can get it for the low price of 159.99 plus tax and shipping!

Seriously I hope you realize no other company gets away with this type of hardcore asset and coding recycling. It is funny stepping back as someone who is completely unbiased and watch people buy the same game every year with dlc's for the same cars just to be disappointed. If you want experience Forza 7 just go into Forza 6's first person view and pretend you're wearing a teletubby outfit and that the rain isn't leaving because it's an extra stormy D Y N A M I C day.

What do you want? Are you kidding me... How can that be a serious question? How about: Rally, dirt tracks, drag tracks, actual drag modes with a light tree and burnouts, drifting, drifting tracks, drifting modifications, trucks, baja racing, auto cross tracks, tire decals, window decals, light edcals, light tinting, track width, tire brands, tire width, more tuning options, more camera options, fov sliders, color sliders, new vinyl system that allows matte and metallic colors, point to point tracks, mountain tracks, road racing tracks, city tracks, umm customization?, and an actual story... you know, AN ACTUAL NEW GAME.



^Dear excellent moderators that curate these forums and keep the nonsense away, above is not a wishlist and does not need to be moved, it is a reply to a question that should not be taken out of context. And I mean everything I said genuinely and lightheartedly to cue friendly debate. Thanks.
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#21 Posted : Monday, June 12, 2017 9:48:30 PM(UTC)
It is right to suggest that the physics and modeling had better be pretty darn near perfect, for them to be going out on a limb to do certain other detail things like driver customization.

Those who approach FM7 with some degree of skepticism are to be taken example from. Don't be tricked by shiny things; do as they do, and demand that the underpinnings be as finely finished as the fluff. Don't bash the guy for being appropriately concerned that maybe they have put too much attention in some potentially wasteful direction.

That said, hey, cool, drive customization, and more than what one of the previous Gran Turismo titles had. Sweet. Proper old-school driving gear for my proper old-school racing machines.
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#22 Posted : Tuesday, June 13, 2017 12:25:55 AM(UTC)
"Seriously I hope you realize no other company gets away with this type of hardcore asset and coding recycling"

What about ea with their sports games and CoD just to name a few examples? Get your facts together, pleb
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#23 Posted : Tuesday, June 13, 2017 12:50:02 AM(UTC)
All I can say is FINALLY! This is a feature that has been a long time coming, as in Forza 6 you had a basic avatar, in Horizon 3 you could choose pre-set characters. They develop these things very slowly but I'm glad it has finally arrived. This will make the game more alive and more interesting to be honest. Forza has needed something like this desperately. A really good step in the right direction in my opinion.
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#24 Posted : Tuesday, June 13, 2017 1:12:51 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: xJonxMonx56 Go to Quoted Post
It'd be cool if you could "assign" different characters to different cars, or in other words, have a modern-looking racer when driving a modern car, and one of the vintage-looking racers when driving a vintage race car.


I guess we'll have to see when more details come out, but I believe this is what they are talking about when they say "loadout screen" before races.
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#25 Posted : Tuesday, June 13, 2017 4:05:35 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: GER FIXER303 Go to Quoted Post
"Seriously I hope you realize no other company gets away with this type of hardcore asset and coding recycling"

What about ea with their sports games and CoD just to name a few examples? Get your facts together, pleb


Name calling? Ignoring the point of my post? It's just my opinion. If you think CoD recycles coding and assets then you're a blindness hater. Look at CoD WW2, and Infinite Warfare and show me one reused thing. I could make a list of over 5000 reused things from the Forza franchise. As for EA sports games i've never played them so i won't judge them however it was a rhetorical statement.
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