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#1 Posted : Tuesday, March 7, 2017 12:53:48 PM(UTC)
I'd like to see what the forum community has to say about the Car Pass as a whole. This thread is merely meant to generate discussion and feedback about and on the Car Pass, not to harass others, not to drop every car you want in here, not about Barn Finds, Forzathon, or anything else unrelated to the topic at hand. In addition, this thread, as the title would imply, covers information about the Car Pass cars, not DLC cars obtained from other means such as VIP and Blizzard Mountain. I started this thread as an opportunity for players to express their feelings about the Car Pass contents, hopefully sharing pieces of advice or fun facts with each other and/or as feedback for Turn 10 on how to go about Car Passes in the future. This likely will have little to no effect on the Car Pass for FM7, but it may serve as a helpful guide for them when selecting cars to go into each pack.

If you want to say what cars you'd like to see added into this game, please use this thread.

As a reminder of what we have gotten, we've received a total of 42 extra cars for $29.99. Use whatever currency applies to you if needed.

The October Smoking Tire Car Pack
- 2016 Aston Martin Vulcan
- 2000 Lotus 340R
- 2016 Pagani Huayra BC
- 2010 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor
- 2016 [Spania GTA] GTA Spano
- 2016 BMW M2 Coupe
- 1976 Jeep CJ-5 Renegade

The November Alpinestars Car Pack
- 2017 Acura NSX
- 1998 Nissan Silvia K's (S14)
- 1990 Mazda Savannah RX-7
- 1967 Ford Falcon XR GT
- 2016 Dodge Viper ACR
- 2016 BMW M4 GTS
- 1979 Talbot Lotus Sunbeam

The December Logitech G Car Pack
- 2015 Bentley EXP 10 Speed 6 Concept
- 2014 Morgan 3 Wheeler
- 1965 Pontiac GTO
- 2017 Jaguar F-PACE S
- 1996 HSV GTSR
- 2017 Mercedes-AMG GT R
- 1992 Toyota Supra Twin Turbo 2.0 GT

The January Rockstar Energy Car Pack
- 2015 BMW i8
- 2015 Volvo V60 Polestar
- 2015 Radical RXC Turbo
- 1972 Ford Falcon XA GT-HO
- 1987 Nissan Skyline GTS-R (R31)
- 2014 Ford #11 Rockstar F-150 Trophy Truck
- 2016 Bentley Bentayga

The February Playseat Car Pack
- 1985 HDT VK Commodore Group A
- 1990 Renault Alpine GTA Le Mans
- 2016 Cadillac ATS-V
- 2017 Aston Martin DB11
- 2016 Vauxhall Corsa VXR
- 1970 Honda S800
- 2016 Honda Civic Type R

The March Duracell Car Pack
- 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1
- 2015 Jaguar XES
- 1992 Ford Falcon GT
- 1983 Volvo 242 Turbo Evolution
- 1995 Nissan NISMO GT-R LM
- 1959 BMW 507
- 1972 Land Rover Series III

Some fun statistics:
-The average year of a Car Pass DLC car is: 2001 (Ironically there are no DLC cars from 2001)
-The most common year of a Car Pass DLC car is: 2016 (10 of 42 cars)
-The most common decade of a Car Pass DLC car is: 2010s (23 of 42 cars)
-The most common country of a Car Pass DLC car is: UK* (11 of 42 cars)
-The most common division of a Car Pass DLC car is: Asian Sports Cars (5 of 42 cars)
-The most common brand of a Car Pass DLC car is: Ford (5 of 42 cars)

WARNING: DATA OVERLOAD

BREAKDOWN BY DECADE/YEAR:

1930s: 0
1940s: 0
1950s: 1

-1959 BMW 507
1960s: 2
-1965 Pontiac GTO
-1967 Ford Falcon XR GT
1970s: 5
- 1970 Honda S800
- 1972 Ford Falcon XA GT-HO
- 1972 Land Rover Series III
- 1976 Jeep CJ-5 Renegade
- 1979 Talbot Lotus Sunbeam
1980s: 3
- 1983 Volvo 242 Turbo Evolution
- 1985 HDT VK Commodore Group A
- 1987 Nissan Skyline GTS-R (R31)
1990s: 7
- 1990 Mazda Savannah RX-7
- 1990 Renault Alpine GTA Le Mans
- 1992 Ford Falcon GT
- 1992 Toyota Supra 2.0 GT Twin Turbo
- 1995 Nissan NISMO GT-R LM
- 1996 HSV GTSR
- 1998 Nissan Silvia K's (S14)
2000s: 1
- 2000 Lotus 340R
2010s: 23
- 2010 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor
- 2014 Ford #11 Rockstar F-150 Trophy Truck
- 2014 Morgan 3 Wheeler
- 2015 Bentley EXP 10 Speed 6 Concept
- 2015 BMW i8
- 2015 Jaguar XES
- 2015 Radical RXC Turbo
- 2015 Volvo V60 Polestar
- 2016 Aston Martin Vulcan
- 2016 Bentley Bentayga
- 2016 BMW M2 Coupe
- 2016 BMW M4 GTS
- 2016 Cadillac ATS-V
- 2016 Dodge Viper ACR
- 2016 Honda Civic Type R
- 2016 Pagani Huayra BC
- 2016 Spania GTA GTA Spano
- 2016 Vauxhall Corsa VXR
- 2017 Acura NSX
- 2017 Aston Martin DB11
- 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1
- 2017 Jaguar F-PACE S
- 2017 Mercedes-AMG GT R

BREAKDOWN BY COUNTRY:

(*Note: While the Ford Falcons are listed under Ford, which is American, I placed them in the Australia category. US and UK would've otherwise tied for the most cars. I did also place Acura under US, although it really should be under Japan)
Australia: 5
- 1967 Ford Falcon XR GT
- 1972 Ford Falcon XA GT-HO
- 1985 HDT VK Commodore Group A
- 1992 Ford Falcon GT
- 1996 HSV GTSR
France: 2
- 1979 Talbot Lotus Sunbeam
- 1990 Renault Alpine GTA Le Mans
Germany: 5
- 1959 BMW 507
- 2015 BMW i8
- 2016 BMW M2 Coupe
- 2016 BMW M4 GTS
- 2017 Mercedes-AMG GT R
Italy: 1
- 2016 Pagani Huayra BC
Japan: 7
- 1970 Honda S800
- 1987 Nissan Skyline GTS-R (R31)
- 1990 Mazda Savannah RX-7
- 1992 Toyota Supra 2.0 GT Twin Turbo
- 1995 Nissan NISMO GT-R LM
- 1998 Nissan Silvia K's (S14)
- 2016 Honda Civic Type R
Spain: 1
- 2016 Spania GTA GTA Spano
Sweden: 2
- 1983 Volvo 242 Turbo Evolution
- 2015 Volvo V60 Polestar
UK: 11
- 1972 Land Rover Series III
- 2000 Lotus 340R
- 2014 Morgan 3 Wheeler
- 2015 Bentley EXP 10 Speed 6 Concept
- 2015 Jaguar XES
- 2015 Radical RXC Turbo
- 2016 Aston Martin Vulcan
- 2016 Bentley Bentayga
- 2016 Vauxhall Corsa VXR
- 2017 Aston Martin DB11
- 2017 Jaguar F-PACE S
US: 8
- 1965 Pontiac GTO
- 1976 Jeep CJ-5 Renegade
- 2010 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor
- 2014 Ford #11 Rockstar F-150 Trophy Truck
- 2016 Cadillac ATS-V
- 2016 Dodge Viper ACR
- 2017 Acura NSX
- 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1

BREAKDOWN BY BRAND:

Acura: 1
- 2017 NSX
Aston Martin: 2
- 2016 Vulcan
- 2017 DB11
Bentley: 2
- 2015 EXP 10 Speed 6 Concept
- 2016 Bentayga
BMW: 4
- 1959 507
- 2015 i8
- 2016 M2 Coupe
- 2016 M4 GTS
Cadillac: 1
- 2016 ATS-V
Chevrolet: 1
- 2017 Camaro ZL1
Dodge: 1
- 2016 Viper ACR
Ford: 5
- 1967 Falcon XR GT
- 1972 Falcon XA GT-HO
- 1992 Falcon GT
- 2010 Crown Victoria Police Interceptor
- 2014 #11 Rockstar F-150 Trophy Truck
HDT: 1
- 1985 VK Commodore Group A
Honda: 2
- 1970 S800
- 2016 Civic Type R
HSV: 1
- 1996 GTSR
Jaguar: 2
- 2015 XES
- 2017 F-PACE S
Jeep: 1
-1976 CJ-5 Renegade
Land Rover: 1
- 1972 Series III
Lotus: 1
- 2000 340R
Mazda: 1
- 1990 Savannah RX-7
Mercedes-AMG: 1
- 2017 GT R
Morgan: 1
- 2014 3 Wheeler
Nissan: 3
- 1987 Skyline GTS-R (R31)
- 1995 NISMO GT-R LM
- 1998 Silvia K's (S14)
Pagani: 1
- 2016 Huayra BC
Pontiac: 1
- 1965 GTO
Radical: 1
- 2015 RXC Turbo
Renault: 1
- 1990 Alpine GTA Le Mans
Spania GTA: 1
- 2016 GTA Spano
Talbot: 1
- 1979 Lotus Sunbeam
Toyota: 1
- 1992 Supra 2.0 GT Twin Turbo
Vauxhall: 1
- 2016 Corsa VXR
Volvo: 2
- 1983 242 Turbo Evolution
- 2015 V60 Polestar


BREAKDOWN BY DIVISION:

Modern Supercars: 3
- 2015 BMW i8
- 2016 Spania GTA GTA Spano
- 2017 Acura NSX
Retro Supercars: 0
Hypercars: 2

- 2016 Aston Martin Vulcan
- 2016 Pagani Huayra BC
Extreme Track Toys: 2
- 2000 Lotus 340R
- 2015 Radical RXC TUrbo
Asian Sports Cars: 5
- 1987 Nissan Skyline GTS-R (R31)
- 1990 Mazda Savannah RX-7
- 1992 Toyota Supra 2.0 GT Twin Turbo
- 1995 Nissan NISMO GT-R LM
- 1998 Nissan Silvia K's (S14)
European Sports Cars: 1
- 2016 BMW M2 Coupe
GT Cars: 1
- 2015 Bentley EXP 10 Speed 6 Concept
Super GT Cars: 2
- 2017 Aston Martin DB11
- 2017 Mercedes-AMG GT R
Super Saloons: 3
- 2015 Jaguar XES
- 2015 Volvo V60 Polestar
- 2016 BMW M4 GTS
Retro Saloons: 0
Modern Muscle: 3

- 2016 Cadillac ATS-V
- 2016 Dodge Viper ACR
- 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1
Retro Muscle: 4
- 1985 HDT VK Commodore Group A
- 1992 Ford Falcon GT
- 1996 HSV GTSR
- 2010 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor
Classic Muscle: 3
- 1965 Pontiac GTO
- 1967 Ford Falcon XR GT
- 1972 Ford Falcon XA GT-HO
Hot Hatch: 1
- 2016 Vauxhall Corsa VXR
Super Hot Hatch: 1
- 2016 Honda Civic Type R
Retro Hot Hatch: 0
Cult Classics: 3

- 1970 Honda S800
- 1990 Renault Alpine GTA Le Mans
- 2014 Morgan 3 Wheeler
Classic Racers: 0
Rare Classics: 1

- 1959 BMW 507
Classic Rally: 2
- 1979 Talbot Lotus Sunbeam
- 1983 Volvo 242 Turbo Evolution
Modern Rally: 0
Group B Monsters: 0
Retro Rally: 0
Offroad: 2

- 1972 Land Rover Series III
- 1976 Jeep CJ-5 Renegade
Extreme Offroad: 1
- 2014 Ford #11 Rockstar F-150 Trophy Truck
Sports Utility Heroes: 2
- 2016 Bentley Bentayga
- 2017 Jaguar F-PACE S
Buggy: 0

Small interesting notes:

-Of all the brands featured in the Car Pass, four of them were otherwise not in the game at all, with three of them ( HDT, Spania GTA, Talbot) being entirely new to the franchise. The fourth is Morgan, last featured in FM4, in case you were wondering.

-Many of these cars were highly requested, including the BMW i8, the most requested car.

Back to the question ultimately at hand, are you satisfied with the contents of the car pack? Personally, I believe the car packs as a whole were rather varied in car selection, with most divisions in this game receiving at least one more car to their roster, and despite the majority of the cars belonging to the 2010s category, there were enough older cars to nearly break even to the millennium.

Some questions you may answer in your response if you wish.
- What was your favorite car pack? Why?
- What was your least favorite car pack? Why?
- What was your favorite car? Why?
- What was your least favorite car? Why?
- Do you feel the value per monetary unit was in your favor? Why or why not?
- Do you feel the price should be raised, lowered, or remain the same?
- Would you like to see the Car Pass covered to include all future DLC packs, at a higher cost?

Above all else, I leave all of you with this suggestion.

PLEASE DO NOT: Insult, harass, or offend any other user or possible Turn 10 member in this thread. Everyone has their own opinions about this game and its DLC; you can disagree with someone without resorting to a fight. None of you are wrong, none of you are right. That's how opinions work.

Edited by user Tuesday, March 7, 2017 12:56:00 PM(UTC)  | Reason: More clearly defined subcategories.

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#2 Posted : Tuesday, March 7, 2017 12:56:33 PM(UTC)
I'm satisified, as I know not to expect everything I want, yet I respect the cars that they've added, and I even have some new favorites!
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, March 7, 2017 1:01:25 PM(UTC)
I am not satisfied with the PI system in the game. I am not satisfied that cars are added that can not hit max pi in any class. I am not satisfied with engine swaps. I want cars sounding like v8s that can compete.

If these things were different then i would be satisfied with the car selection in the car pass. So i am not critcising the car pass contents but more the base game not allowing the car variety to really shine.
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, March 7, 2017 1:07:40 PM(UTC)
Nicely done thread JonxMonx, very positive : ) (Happy Birthday again ? ^^ )
And I'll pass by by saying a thing that I really like was the variety. For me I cannot blame them for most of their choices, (except obviously some redundancies :-P )
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, March 7, 2017 1:12:04 PM(UTC)
Im satisfied but not happy. There is an abundence of cars missing such as the EG Civic, Lexus IS300 and the De Tomaso pantera, cars that have appeared in the past and were loved but are ignored now due to supposedly new better cars and reskins which truly and frankly, in lesser terms than i can say. Annoy me. The M3 GTS, Hyura race thing and the new Camaro. All just cars that they made a change or 2 to make "new".

I know times change but the community cried for these cars and were ignored. Even Forza 4 did a better job with more cars from DLC and even more free ones. Still the graphics, gameplay and just overall new content has kept me pretty happy as a PC gamer but i dont feel i will be buying Forza motorsport 7 unless they bring back Fumiji Kaido and a good list of cars to kick. Well done playground for getting my sale on PC but as for the next one, prove us you listen.

ps. dont give out an unpacked version of the game next time, you know we are so going to mod it and have real cars now due to your mistake.

pps. im a long time fan playing since Forza 3 in 07 on another account.

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#6 Posted : Tuesday, March 7, 2017 1:15:20 PM(UTC)
Yeah.
28/42 cars were from my interest.
If I were to buy them separated it would cost way more than the whole car pass package, so I guess it was worth it.
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, March 7, 2017 1:21:15 PM(UTC)
Excellent info breakdown! Love it.

I agree with SatNiteEduardo, it's frustrating when cars aren't given parts to reach the top of their class. It would be something of a mental comfort to know that there are licensing restrictions that prevent the developers from doing it, because otherwise it seems like they aren't taking advantage of their power to make any upgrade possible.

I enjoy pretty much any car because I'm always learning something new. I never knew about a lot of these models.
Though I don't play cops and robbers, I liked the addition of a police car with active lights for the potential of photo/video shoots, or just multiplayer fun.
The most fun to drive car for me has been the Morgan 3-Wheeler. Plus it's great having that variety of style in the game.
My favorite car is probably the Renault Alpine GTA, which I find pretty good for A-class tarmac courses. I love those 80s wedge design cars. The BMW 507 might be the most beautiful design.
I've also had a lot of fun in the Jeep CJ-5 for offroading.
Favorite pack overall might be the October Smoking Tire but I've used/enjoyed cars from each, so it's hard to pick a least favorite.
As a decade, I've probably used mid-1990s cars the least.
Glad they got the Silvia and the i8 in the game so the calls to add them would subside.

There are plenty of comments about the Car Pass not covering all DLC, but I'm never bothered by it. Ultimately my wallet is my Car Pass, and I don't find it difficult to go in the game and make that purchase. I don't have the bandwidth limitations that some regions do, or the budget limitations that students do. The price doesn't bother me. I suppose I can understand the perspective that players will make the entry investment in the game and then feel like they're over a barrel of buying further released content or missing out, but in the end everyone has to make their own value judgement about what is worth buying.

The other thing to keep in mind is that the "Car Pass" isn't really its own thing, it's just a discount on other existing things. So has T10's DLC offering been good? Has it been worth it? At a buck-per-car, I'd say yes. Adding cars helps keep the traffic fresh even if I never drive them myself. By comparison the song list feels much more repetitive (of course there's the bypass adding many more songs yourself with Groove).

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#8 Posted : Tuesday, March 7, 2017 1:27:35 PM(UTC)
I do like that they have added Aussie cars but almost all of them seem to be handling beasts that struggle for top end even with engine swaps. Not sure why that may be.
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, March 7, 2017 1:38:14 PM(UTC)
I would say overall I was pretty happy with the cars added, it's the base game and problems within it that I'm not happy with. Obviously there are a few cars I really wanted to come in like the 675lt, BMW Z8 And Z3 and a whole load of others but I go into a car pack expecting nothing so that way it always surprises me. I was happy with a lot of the cars added and out of the whole pass I would say there was only a handful I didn't care for. Honestly the car pass is like a lucky dip. You win some you lose some and I think mostly it's bin a win not a lose. I also do love the variety you get with the car pass. I've never really driven Australian cars so driving them was really cool and I've grown quite fond of them. So the variety and boldness of the car pack I appreciate for making me take a second look at cars I would previously had not even glanced at.
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, March 7, 2017 1:47:18 PM(UTC)
I'm okay with the cars in general, there have been cars added that I really like from all ages. The one major disappointment though is this: for a game where the buggy class was introduced with a lot of fanfare and marketing we have seen ZERO new buggies. :( And that for a car class that is already so little represented in a game with a lot of offroad content. I was also rather shocked they added that Volvo V60 as a payed DLC car while it's just the same as the S60 but in wagon version. But then again, that same update we got that lovely classic Volvo as a barn find as well.

On the positive side, I live in Belgium and even I really liked how they kept putting out more Holdens and Ford AUS cars with the DLC packs. I'm happy for the Australian fans who probably don't see their cars in any other game and I have to admit, it was fun for me to experience Australian car culture as well. Before FH3 I never even heard about a ute. :)

However this is probably the last time ever I buy any ultimate edition or car pack for the Forza franchise. 80-90% of what you get is free in the next release somewhere between 6-12 months anyway. I didn't buy any of the DLC car packs after my FM6 ultimate edition ran out, not because I can't afford it but simply out of protest. No game should ever have more cars than the garage can hold. Anyway, 6 months later the majority of those cars I missed out were in the base game of FH3 anyway which made the FH3 start for me that much more enjoyable as well. Planning to do the exact same thing now, even though I think they did it right with the garage car limit and the amount of cars in FH3, I'm simply not interested anymore. Even now I barely play the game anymore. Once you do all the exhibitions and championships there is little left to enjoy, especially with this ridiculous AI difficulty behavior.

I don't even think I will get FM7, if it's just going to feel FM6.1 with offroad and trophy trucks then I'm not interested at all. They seriously gotta revamp the core of their game, get rid of the ridiculous "assists" and make it more realistic. Project CARS 2 looks a lot more interesting to me, I'm super hyped about that one! I'll make the final decision on FM7 once they announce the game though but so far I think I will just pass. Turn 10 simply don't have the guts to really revamp their game IMO. If in FM7 you can again import tunes form previous games then they already failed because that means nothing has changed at all. Maybe if I want a second game next to PCARS2 I should just give GT Sport a try since I now got a PS4 Pro anyway (bought it for Horizon Zero Dawn - amazing game and a nice refreshment from all the racing games I've been playing the past 2-3 years). But then again, Polyphony sure isn't anymore what it used to be with releases being years behind schedule and this silly Vision GT nonsense.

Anyway that's how I feel now. I really do hope that Turn 10 get a grip on themselves and that they start putting some innovation in their game again. FM6 was just a copy/paste of FM5 with more cars and tracks but for the rest the exact same thing. Playground did a FAR better job with FH3 compared to FH2. But all that is nothing if you see what SMS is doing with PCARS2 compared to PCARS1.... ooh boy.

In the end we are all racing fans, whether its arcade racers or sim racers. Some like to tune, some paint, some take photos all day long, some just race. I'm someone that really wants realism and immersion and FM6 simply cannot give me that, the entire game is way too arcade. But that is my personal opinion. For the FH series though, apart from the silly AI behavior I think Playground had it spot on. I've seen quite a lot of complaints here about FH3 how FH2 and even FH1 were better. I never understood that, for me FH3 seriously blows its predecessors out of the water.

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#11 Posted : Tuesday, March 7, 2017 1:55:08 PM(UTC)
I appreciate the variety. I rarely use the cars in the DLC though because most don't fit my taste. I love the FC RX7, NSX, and Viper ACR though. I won't make this a wish thread, but I'm just a little disappointed certain cars were cut from the game even though they appeared in previous current gen iterations.
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, March 7, 2017 1:59:56 PM(UTC)
FH3 was my first Forza title ( well apart from the free FM6 Apex) and I went for the ultimate edition so I had no "previous".... after the disappointment of the PC experience I even went and bought the Xbox One S and 40" 4K to feed my addiction... Still wish they would fix it on the PC as I have a 5K setup...

Getting back to the packs that were part of the Carpass...

I am basically happy with whatever we get in the carpacks as by and large they are derived wherever possible from the community "wish list" rather than individual preference...

I'm not into the online scene so haven't really got into tuning etc but is SNE says there are issues then I guess there must be...

Lately I have been playing a lot of FH2 and FM6 and have bought a lot of the DLC for them as well enjoyed the "Porsches" and even NASCAR !!!

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#13 Posted : Tuesday, March 7, 2017 2:06:21 PM(UTC)
double post

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#14 Posted : Tuesday, March 7, 2017 2:14:23 PM(UTC)
I am very disappointed with the car pass.

The reason is because I am very disappointed in the PI system. The expense of handling options and the cheapness of horsepower has made this game and especially car choices uninteresting. In Horizon 2 the car pass was awesome because those cars were fun to build and race. The cars in Horizon 3 just aren't as much fun to build and race because of the PI system. So any new cars added through the car pass aren't really adding anything new. I have over 400 cars as it is and only race about 25 of them.

I love lots of things about Horizon 3 like blueprints and choosing online class. But the PI build system pretty much ruins the joy of building and testing cars since the system forces you into speed rather than handling builds. If you don't build for speed you are uncompetitive. If they ever make a Horizon 4 I hope they harken back the balanced PI days of Horizon 2 and ditch this ridiculous H3 model.
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#15 Posted : Tuesday, March 7, 2017 2:14:56 PM(UTC)
There hasn't been many cars in the packs that I've really liked. All-in-all, I kinda regret going all in on the Ultimate Edition.
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#16 Posted : Tuesday, March 7, 2017 2:22:33 PM(UTC)
More than satisfied as being a car fan I love discovering vehicles I haven't heard of or been able to try in other racing games. Sure there are plenty of cars I would personally like to see in the game but I'm not going to complain because I have been satisfied in another way.
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#17 Posted : Tuesday, March 7, 2017 2:40:57 PM(UTC)
Overall I think the Car Pass was pretty good. Most of the packs had a few cars I was interested in, and a couple I didn't care about. Although, the January pack was the weakest for me, 4 of the cars were really poor in my opinion (Volvo, Trophy Truck, Falcon and Bentley). My favourite car from the car pass is a tough choice, the Lotus 340R, Talbot Sunbeam, FK2 Civic, Alpine and GT-R LM are probably my top 5 though. I didn't expect to ever see the 340R or Sunbeam in Forza, so those additions were fantastic for me.
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#18 Posted : Tuesday, March 7, 2017 2:41:22 PM(UTC)
I've got Ultimate edition, so no complaints - there were other bonuses.
But I will be using about 15 cars, mostly modern ones. The models similar to ones already in game are disappointing a little.
Overall it felt like a cat in the bag and selling more cars in the pack seems to be mainly to advantage of Turn10/MS.
After this I would like to buy just the cars I want - I'm not one of those who want to have everything.
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#19 Posted : Tuesday, March 7, 2017 2:45:23 PM(UTC)
I'm more than happy with the Car Pass. I drove every car and even found some more favourites. Can't wait for the next pack :)
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#20 Posted : Tuesday, March 7, 2017 2:49:49 PM(UTC)
Yes.

- There's a pretty good spread of cars from various decades and regions
- A pretty good spread pf different types of cars, from the Jeep CJ5, to the Morgan 3-Wheeler, to the Bentley Speed-6 concept.
- On a more personal level, there isn't a car I particularly dislike, they're all welcome additions
- You got what the description says you got (no doubt there will be people crying that you'll now have to pay for packs from now on)

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#21 Posted : Tuesday, March 7, 2017 2:53:00 PM(UTC)
I'm happy. Got what was advertised, got what I (almost) wanted.

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#22 Posted : Tuesday, March 7, 2017 2:56:38 PM(UTC)
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I am very disappointed with the car pass.

The reason is because I am very disappointed in the PI system. The expense of handling options and the cheapness of horsepower has made this game and especially car choices uninteresting. In Horizon 2 the car pass was awesome because those cars were fun to build and race. The cars in Horizon 3 just aren't as much fun to build and race because of the PI system. So any new cars added through the car pass aren't really adding anything new. I have over 400 cars as it is and only race about 25 of them.

I love lots of things about Horizon 3 like blueprints and choosing online class. But the PI build system pretty much ruins the joy of building and testing cars since the system forces you into speed rather than handling builds. If you don't build for speed you are uncompetitive. If they ever make a Horizon 4 I hope they harken back the balanced PI days of Horizon 2 and ditch this ridiculous H3 model.


The PI system is flawed, but honestly that wouldn't matter if the roads were more technical and had tight switchbacks. The roads are wide and relatively straight which focus solely on top speed. That's the main reason I like Surfers Paradise races, that's the closest I can get to technical PAVED roads.
Rank: A-Class Racing License
#23 Posted : Tuesday, March 7, 2017 3:00:28 PM(UTC)
Totally personal, totally biased...just my own take on the packs. Based on a five star rating.


The October Smoking Tire Car Pack - The first car pack got me really excited for future ones, and remains one of my favorites. Some big, beastly exotics tied in with a few quirky choices (Crown Vic & the CJ5) - I only really disliked the M2, which felt like filler since we already had a 2-Series. The Lotus was kind of cool, but not my cup of tea.
Pack Average: ****
- 2016 Aston Martin Vulcan - ****
- 2000 Lotus 340R - ***
- 2016 Pagani Huayra BC - ****
- 2010 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor - *****
- 2016 [Spania GTA] GTA Spano - ****
- 2016 BMW M2 Coupe - **
- 1976 Jeep CJ-5 Renegade - *****

The November Alpinestars Car Pack was another very encouraging offering. Cars I had been drooling for (NSX, S14 and the FC) arrived alongside some very cool surprises. Even the "filler" cars (Viper and M4) were pretty cool in my opinion.
Pack Average - **** 1/2
- 2017 Acura NSX - *****
- 1998 Nissan Silvia K's (S14) - *****
- 1990 Mazda Savannah RX-7 - *****
- 1967 Ford Falcon XR GT - ****
- 2016 Dodge Viper ACR - ****
- 2016 BMW M4 GTS - ****
- 1979 Talbot Lotus Sunbeam - ****

The December Logitech G Car Pack brought back one of my favorite cars ever (GTO), and for that I loved it despite nothing else really blowing my hair back. Nothing I disliked at all, but the rest fell between "kinda cool" and "whatever" for me.
Pack Average: *** 1/2
- 2015 Bentley EXP 10 Speed 6 Concept - ****
- 2014 Morgan 3 Wheeler - ****
- 1965 Pontiac GTO - *****
- 2017 Jaguar F-PACE S - ***
- 1996 HSV GTSR - ***
- 2017 Mercedes-AMG GT R - ***
- 1992 Toyota Supra Twin Turbo 2.0 GT - ****

The January Rockstar Energy Car Pack was the first one I felt disappointed with. There were some bright spots (i8, Falcon), but the rest of the selections fell flat. The Volvo was 100% redundant even a JDM junkie like me didn't feel excited by the R1 (but I felt like it was the thought that counted!)
Pack Average: ***
- 2015 BMW i8 - *****
- 2015 Volvo V60 Polestar - *
- 2015 Radical RXC Turbo - **
- 1972 Ford Falcon XA GT- **** - ****
- 1987 Nissan Skyline GTS-R (R31) - ***
- 2014 Ford #11 Rockstar F-150 Trophy Truck - ***
- 2016 Bentley Bentayga - **

The February Playseat Car Pack was another waste in my opinion (loved the Honda, though!). The updated Aston wasn't bad, and the Renault was pretty cool, but the rest of it didn't appeal to me.
Pack Average - ** 1/2
- 1985 HDT VK Commodore Group A - **
- 1990 Renault Alpine GTA Le Mans - ****
- 2016 Cadillac ATS-V - **
- 2017 Aston Martin DB11 - ***
- 2016 Vauxhall Corsa VXR - **
- 1970 Honda S800 - ****
- 2016 Honda Civic Type R - **

The March Duracell Car Pack brought back the fun in a lot of ways. I really had my fingers crossed for this final offering - I was happy to see some cool, offbeat choices (Volvo, Nismo, Series III) mixed in with the expected redundant / uninspired selections (ZL1, Jag, yet-another-butt-ugly-90's-Aussie-V8-destined-for-an-AWD-swap-and-poor-online-cornering-choices...)
Pack Average: *** 1/2
- 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1- **
- 2015 Jaguar XES - *
- 1992 Ford Falcon GT - **
- 1983 Volvo 242 Turbo Evolution - *****
- 1995 Nissan NISMO GT-R LM - *****
- 1959 BMW 507 - ****
- 1972 Land Rover Series III - *****


Overall Average (according to my picky, biased ratings...) - *** 1/2

So ultimately I'm glad I bought the Pass. Added value like the Forzathon cars and extra Barn Finds make it feel closer to 4 or 4.5 stars.

Just one guy's opinion, YMMV.
Rank: R-Class Racing License
#24 Posted : Tuesday, March 7, 2017 3:05:56 PM(UTC)
Overrall, I'd say I was satisfied with this Car Pass.

I'll start with a breakdown of the good, and bad, of each pack for me.

The October Smoking Tire Car Pack

Good
2000 Lotus 340R
2010 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor
1976 Jeep CJ-5 Renegade

Bad
2016 Aston Martin Vulcan
2016 Pagani Huayra BC
2016 [Spania GTA] GTA Spano
2016 BMW M2 Coupe

The November Alpinestars Car Pack

Good
1998 Nissan Silvia K's (S14)
1990 Mazda Savannah RX-7
1967 Ford Falcon XR GT
1979 Talbot Lotus Sunbeam

Bad
2017 Acura NSX
2016 Dodge Viper ACR
2016 BMW M4 GTS

The December Logitech G Car Pack

Good
2015 Bentley EXP 10 Speed 6 Concept
2014 Morgan 3 Wheeler
1965 Pontiac GTO
1996 HSV GTSR
1992 Toyota Supra Twin Turbo 2.0 GT

Bad
2017 Jaguar F-PACE S
2017 Mercedes-AMG GT R

The January Rockstar Energy Car Pack

Good
1972 Ford Falcon XA GT-HO
1987 Nissan Skyline GTS-R (R31)

Bad
2015 BMW i8
2015 Volvo V60 Polestar
2015 Radical RXC Turbo
2014 Ford #11 Rockstar F-150 Trophy Truck
2016 Bentley Bentayga

The February Playseat Car Pack

Good
1985 HDT VK Commodore Group A
1990 Renault Alpine GTA Le Mans
1970 Honda S800

Bad
2016 Cadillac ATS-V
2017 Aston Martin DB11
2016 Vauxhall Corsa VXR
2016 Honda Civic Type R

The March Duracell Car Pack

Good
2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1
1992 Ford Falcon GT
1983 Volvo 242 Turbo Evolution
1995 Nissan NISMO GT-R LM
1959 BMW 507
1972 Land Rover Series III

Bad
2015 Jaguar XES

23/42 cars liked isn't bad.

Onto the questions;

Quote:
What was your favorite car pack? Why?


The March Duracell Pack, simply because it's the pack that contains the most cars that I actually like, and will drive regularly.

Quote:
What was your least favorite car pack? Why?


The January Rockstar Energy Pack, as it had the most "negative" cars in my eyes.

Quote:
What was your favorite car? Why?


Now that's a tough one, so many to choose from. If I had to narrow it down to one, I'd have to say the Talbot Sunbeam, it's become my most driven out of all the DLC cars, and is a fun little car to throw about!

Quote:
What was your least favorite car? Why?


Easy one this time, the Corsa, it looks, well, bad, and the performance is underwhelming. A rather meh car.

Quote:
Do you feel the value per monetary unit was in your favor? Why or why not?


I do, I've got a lot of hours into this game, and even with all the add-ons, I'm still below a £ an hour for my entertainment.

Quote:
Do you feel the price should be raised, lowered, or remain the same?


Well, I certainly wouldn't complain if the price was lowered haha, though I do feel the price for it is very fair.

Quote:
Would you like to see the Car Pass covered to include all future DLC packs, at a higher cost?


For sure, it's one of my biggest gripes (alongside unicorn cars).

Edited by user Wednesday, March 8, 2017 4:50:28 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Rank: Driver's Permit
#25 Posted : Tuesday, March 7, 2017 3:07:37 PM(UTC)
can you tell me what happens after March? Can you still get these cars? I don't understand the car pass in full and I. Ant see a good explanation anywhere.

I know you can buy the all car pass and you get all cars released until March but what after that? Are they just available to anyone to buy using CR?

Thanks in advance.
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