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#26 Posted : Friday, May 6, 2016 11:16:16 AM(UTC)
what optimizer do you mean Agent Shnizler
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#27 Posted : Friday, May 6, 2016 11:19:52 AM(UTC)
I just came across a post on here that mentions poor performance on the Rio track (the location of the first race, though you likely knew that) but decent performance everywhere else. I'm tempted to reinstall the game and just complete the first race to see how it performs elsewhere.
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#28 Posted : Friday, May 6, 2016 12:07:22 PM(UTC)
Hi have a Xeon 1230V3 (GFX is Geforce 670 2GB) and same problem as other here, Core1 and Core4 are working at 100%, whilst Core2 and Core3 are doing... nothing...

I thought consoles use 8+ cores? Seems like a "not so good" port to me...

I wonder who is testing the game? Shure, it's free, but neither the less it should work properly on a 4core (+HT) Cpu...
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#29 Posted : Friday, May 6, 2016 12:34:42 PM(UTC)

if its not utilizing both cores then something Is WRONG
Period
there is no reason a G3258/960 should't be-able to run this at 60fps with everything set on dyanmic
the engine does a reasonably good job of picking out what options the gpu can handle
what it sucks at apparently is memory management which I suspect is a hold over from being on Xbox one with its unified memory pool (which is likely why it has absurd memory requirements)
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#30 Posted : Friday, May 6, 2016 3:10:10 PM(UTC)
I'm running the game very smoothly on my rig which has the following specs;

CPU-AMD FX 6300 at stock speed
GPU- single Sapphire Radeon R9-270X Dual-X with 2gb VRAM, also at stock speed of 1070
RAM-8 gb DDR3-1333 Corsair
HDD-1TB Seagate Barracuda

I have rendering quality on Medium. I can't set it any higher because it says I don't have enough VRAM
AF is set to 2X
MSAA is set to 4X
Everything else is on Dynamic.

The game looks great and runs buttery smooth. I don't know what FPS I'm getting but it doesn't matter since it's so smooth. According to HwInfo the game uses over 10gb of virtual memory and was occasionally crashing when my page file was set at 1024mb. Doubling it to 2048 fixed that. HwInfo also reports 98% max CPU usage with 5 out of 6 cores hitting 100% and the other one 96. GPU usage is max 100% with almost all 2gb of VRAM used. Max CPU temp is 53C and the GPU only hits 63C.
CPU - AMD FX 6300 @ 3.5ghz
GPU - Sapphire Nitro+ RX 470 w/4gb VRAM
RAM - 16GB DDR3-1333
SSD - 1 TB Samsung 860 QVO
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#31 Posted : Friday, May 6, 2016 5:47:29 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: TaurineRhyme029 Go to Quoted Post
I'm running the game very smoothly on my rig which has the following specs;

CPU-AMD FX 6300 at stock speed
GPU- single Sapphire Radeon R9-270X Dual-X with 2gb VRAM, also at stock speed of 1070
RAM-8 gb DDR3-1333 Corsair
HDD-1TB Seagate Barracuda

I have rendering quality on Medium. I can't set it any higher because it says I don't have enough VRAM
AF is set to 2X
MSAA is set to 4X
Everything else is on Dynamic.

The game looks great and runs buttery smooth. I don't know what FPS I'm getting but it doesn't matter since it's so smooth. According to HwInfo the game uses over 10gb of virtual memory and was occasionally crashing when my page file was set at 1024mb. Doubling it to 2048 fixed that. HwInfo also reports 98% max CPU usage with 5 out of 6 cores hitting 100% and the other one 96. GPU usage is max 100% with almost all 2gb of VRAM used. Max CPU temp is 53C and the GPU only hits 63C.


If its hitting the page file on your HDD it won't be smooth, I had to run out and grab another 8gb stick yesterday because the stuttering from running out of memory and the game accessing the page file. (And my page file was on an SSD...)
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#32 Posted : Friday, May 6, 2016 6:19:13 PM(UTC)
for some reasons the game does have a hunger for Vram
and its normal for a app to use the page-file
the pagefile is used for Paging ... if you don't understand that concept then please don't comment on performance
as I said before the game has seemly terrible memory management something turn-10 and Microsoft will need to address
(yes ram is dirt cheap) but thats no excuse for a application using more ram than what is absolutely required
as for gpu load I haven't seen anything higher then 70% with 50% being the avg on my 7970
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#33 Posted : Friday, May 6, 2016 6:21:16 PM(UTC)
and if you navigate to C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.ApexPG_1.0.6.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe\media\renderscenarios\pc you and over-ride the render limits by editing the various XML files
you will need to change folder permissions todo so
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#34 Posted : Friday, May 6, 2016 10:11:23 PM(UTC)
I think I have narrowed the issue down to a simple engine configuration issue where its not allocation the cores correctly
secondly I found out how to bypass the min requirements notices
C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.ApexPG_1.0.6.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe\media\targethardwareprofiler.xml
is where its defined
feel free to make changes to bypass whatever warning you are getting (please only do this if you know what you are doing I am not responsible if you decide to be a moron and change options you don't understand)
//bacon\\
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#35 Posted : Friday, May 6, 2016 10:55:59 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: OneMoar Go to Quoted Post
for some reasons the game does have a hunger for Vram
and its normal for a app to use the page-file
the pagefile is used for Paging ... if you don't understand that concept then please don't comment on performance
as I said before the game has seemly terrible memory management something turn-10 and Microsoft will need to address
(yes ram is dirt cheap) but thats no excuse for a application using more ram than what is absolutely required
as for gpu load I haven't seen anything higher then 70% with 50% being the avg on my 7970
What are you measuring the load with? I'm only using HwInfo and maybe it's not that accurate. It only shows minimum and maximum numbers.

CPU - AMD FX 6300 @ 3.5ghz
GPU - Sapphire Nitro+ RX 470 w/4gb VRAM
RAM - 16GB DDR3-1333
SSD - 1 TB Samsung 860 QVO
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#36 Posted : Friday, May 6, 2016 11:16:33 PM(UTC)
What are supposed to be edited to bypass the min requirements message? and also what is requiered before you can edit any files?? i can only manage to read, and get acces denied when trying to save,move or delete?
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#37 Posted : Saturday, May 7, 2016 6:03:16 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: TaurineRhyme029 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: OneMoar Go to Quoted Post
for some reasons the game does have a hunger for Vram
and its normal for a app to use the page-file
the pagefile is used for Paging ... if you don't understand that concept then please don't comment on performance
as I said before the game has seemly terrible memory management something turn-10 and Microsoft will need to address
(yes ram is dirt cheap) but thats no excuse for a application using more ram than what is absolutely required
as for gpu load I haven't seen anything higher then 70% with 50% being the avg on my 7970
What are you measuring the load with? I'm only using HwInfo and maybe it's not that accurate. It only shows minimum and maximum numbers.



gpu-z
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#38 Posted : Saturday, May 7, 2016 6:03:30 AM(UTC)
*deleted* stupid moderation query

Edited by user Saturday, May 7, 2016 6:14:07 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#39 Posted : Saturday, May 7, 2016 6:12:21 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: FluidicPurse486 Go to Quoted Post
What are supposed to be edited to bypass the min requirements message? and also what is required before you can edit any files?? i can only manage to read, and get acces denied when trying to save,move or delete?


too much potential for you to break something if you don't get it right (worst case all store apps cease to function)
you need to take owner-ship of the folder

http://www.tenforums.com...-menu-windows-10-a.html
BIG FAT WARNING: IF YOU SCREW THIS UP YOU WILL BREAK ALL YOUR STORE APPS I REPEAT HEAR BE DRAGONS CONTINUE AT YOUR OWN RISK
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#40 Posted : Saturday, May 7, 2016 10:31:53 AM(UTC)
I did have this problem as i posted earlier but I fixed it by turning off the dynamic graphics settings.

Went into video and changed dynamic render quality to ultra, dynamic optimization to custom, performance target at 60fps and then set all the other options (except depth of field, urgh) from dynamic to it's max high or ultra setting.

Now it's much much better and feels smooth like 60fps the whole time. My 980ti is still at 50-60% utilisation though at 2560x1440. Hopefully they'll add 144hz option soon :)

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#41 Posted : Saturday, May 7, 2016 11:05:54 AM(UTC)
if only there was a way to turn it off before your enter the game :(
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#42 Posted : Saturday, May 7, 2016 11:09:51 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: BBTD MitchyK7 Go to Quoted Post
Number of cores used is irrelevant. You know your CPU is below minimum specs but still complain it won't run. If ANY single requirement falls below minimum you should not expect it to run. If it does you got lucky but it probably won't be enjoyable. My Gaming PC stomps all over the requirements but I can't even get it to download. That IS a complaint.
Your main choice right now is upgrade the CPU. Forza is very dependant on accurate physics calculations and as soon as the game detects your CPU can't keep up it just falls over.



As a PC gamer I find this almost offensive, that be like me saying oh you can't download the game you should of expected that, now get better internet.

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#43 Posted : Saturday, May 7, 2016 12:13:02 PM(UTC)
I'm actually scared for the well-being of my laptop while playing this game. I have a Clevo P650SE which uses three fans and two separate heat-sinks within it's cooling system. Two fans are used to cool the GTX 970M and push the rear out from a vent at the rear of the laptop. The other fan is used for the i7-4720HQ and the air is comes out from a vent at the side of the laptop. After playing games such as DiRT Rally for an hour straight, the temperatures usually sit around 60-75° which is fine. However as you can see in the screenshot below, it is an entirely different situation with Forza. After playing this game for 30 minutes, the maximum temperatures from Core 2, 3 and 4 were 61° and 62°, however Core 1 reached a shocking 92° and on other occasions it has reached almost 100°. This is ludicrous! I don't understand the reason why three cores are left doing almost nothing while one is being pushed to the absolute limit.

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#44 Posted : Saturday, May 7, 2016 2:07:00 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Darkraver109 Go to Quoted Post
what optimizer do you mean Agent Shnizler


dynamic render quality. that and setting the other one to custom with a performance target of 60fps.
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#45 Posted : Saturday, May 7, 2016 2:13:49 PM(UTC)
I don't have any ODD cpu utilization issues here
might just be a bug in the cpu detection routine
it should be noted that the Xbox one is not 8 core its a quad core with what basically amounts of hyper threading
which is quiet possibly the cause of it picking the wrong core id
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#46 Posted : Saturday, May 7, 2016 3:57:41 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: OneMoar Go to Quoted Post
for some reasons the game does have a hunger for Vram
and its normal for a app to use the page-file
the pagefile is used for Paging ... if you don't understand that concept then please don't comment on performance
as I said before the game has seemly terrible memory management something turn-10 and Microsoft will need to address
(yes ram is dirt cheap) but thats no excuse for a application using more ram than what is absolutely required
as for gpu load I haven't seen anything higher then 70% with 50% being the avg on my 7970


The moment any app has to start paging it drops performance, especially games. (even accounting apps drop of in perf). Its definitely something you want to avoid.

Either you dont have enough memory when it ends up paging (System or VRAM) or there is a memory leak at play.
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#47 Posted : Saturday, May 7, 2016 11:53:52 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: DemonGunLiz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: BBTD MitchyK7 Go to Quoted Post
Number of cores used is irrelevant. You know your CPU is below minimum specs but still complain it won't run. If ANY single requirement falls below minimum you should not expect it to run. If it does you got lucky but it probably won't be enjoyable. My Gaming PC stomps all over the requirements but I can't even get it to download. That IS a complaint.
Your main choice right now is upgrade the CPU. Forza is very dependant on accurate physics calculations and as soon as the game detects your CPU can't keep up it just falls over.



As a PC gamer I find this almost offensive, that be like me saying oh you can't download the game you should of expected that, now get better internet.



Offensive? Do you understand words? If the system doesn't meet MINIMUM requirements it should not be expected to run. If it does, lucky you. But if it doesn't then upgrade the bottleneck in the system. It was upgrade advice how is that offensive? It was not a personal attack on a family member or the memory of a passed relative, it wasn't a joke about apartheid, or reference to sick children. Get some perspective.

Offensive? SMDH.
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#48 Posted : Sunday, May 8, 2016 3:10:22 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: BBTD MitchyK7 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: DemonGunLiz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: BBTD MitchyK7 Go to Quoted Post
Number of cores used is irrelevant. You know your CPU is below minimum specs but still complain it won't run. If ANY single requirement falls below minimum you should not expect it to run. If it does you got lucky but it probably won't be enjoyable. My Gaming PC stomps all over the requirements but I can't even get it to download. That IS a complaint.
Your main choice right now is upgrade the CPU. Forza is very dependant on accurate physics calculations and as soon as the game detects your CPU can't keep up it just falls over.



As a PC gamer I find this almost offensive, that be like me saying oh you can't download the game you should of expected that, now get better internet.



Offensive? Do you understand words? If the system doesn't meet MINIMUM requirements it should not be expected to run. If it does, lucky you. But if it doesn't then upgrade the bottleneck in the system. It was upgrade advice how is that offensive? It was not a personal attack on a family member or the memory of a passed relative, it wasn't a joke about apartheid, or reference to sick children. Get some perspective.

Offensive? SMDH.


I was mostly joking that as a PC gamer you don't take no for an answer (or MINIMUM requirements), I don't think that your attacking me, I know my system is under powered and I should probably buy an i5-4690K when I can afford it.

Dirt Rally minimum requirements is an i3 but the G3258 still runs it like a champ

if your interested my system spec is

CPU intel G3258

GPU 750Ti FTW

8g RAM

Motherboard
Msi H81M-E33

ssd 120g

Edited by user Sunday, May 8, 2016 3:44:50 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#49 Posted : Sunday, May 8, 2016 3:21:10 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Vykyan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: TaurineRhyme029 Go to Quoted Post
I'm running the game very smoothly on my rig which has the following specs;

CPU-AMD FX 6300 at stock speed
GPU- single Sapphire Radeon R9-270X Dual-X with 2gb VRAM, also at stock speed of 1070
RAM-8 gb DDR3-1333 Corsair
HDD-1TB Seagate Barracuda

I have rendering quality on Medium. I can't set it any higher because it says I don't have enough VRAM
AF is set to 2X
MSAA is set to 4X
Everything else is on Dynamic.

The game looks great and runs buttery smooth. I don't know what FPS I'm getting but it doesn't matter since it's so smooth. According to HwInfo the game uses over 10gb of virtual memory and was occasionally crashing when my page file was set at 1024mb. Doubling it to 2048 fixed that. HwInfo also reports 98% max CPU usage with 5 out of 6 cores hitting 100% and the other one 96. GPU usage is max 100% with almost all 2gb of VRAM used. Max CPU temp is 53C and the GPU only hits 63C.


If its hitting the page file on your HDD it won't be smooth, I had to run out and grab another 8gb stick yesterday because the stuttering from running out of memory and the game accessing the page file. (And my page file was on an SSD...)

I have 16gigs of ram and even then after a few races it starts to constantly swap to the point where the game stutters and freezes up like crazy.
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#50 Posted : Sunday, May 8, 2016 3:28:35 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: BBTD MitchyK7 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: DemonGunLiz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: BBTD MitchyK7 Go to Quoted Post
Number of cores used is irrelevant. You know your CPU is below minimum specs but still complain it won't run. If ANY single requirement falls below minimum you should not expect it to run. If it does you got lucky but it probably won't be enjoyable. My Gaming PC stomps all over the requirements but I can't even get it to download. That IS a complaint.
Your main choice right now is upgrade the CPU. Forza is very dependant on accurate physics calculations and as soon as the game detects your CPU can't keep up it just falls over.



As a PC gamer I find this almost offensive, that be like me saying oh you can't download the game you should of expected that, now get better internet.



Offensive? Do you understand words? If the system doesn't meet MINIMUM requirements it should not be expected to run. If it does, lucky you. But if it doesn't then upgrade the bottleneck in the system. It was upgrade advice how is that offensive? It was not a personal attack on a family member or the memory of a passed relative, it wasn't a joke about apartheid, or reference to sick children. Get some perspective.

Offensive? SMDH.

Do you know of any other PC title that add such restrictions like this?? As long as the GPU supports DX12 I think it should be up to the user to decide if they want to risk having bad performance by using a below minimum spec rig.
In my experience the minimum requirements are often even plain wrong. I have in quite a few games on my previous old phenom 2 rig been able to enjoy 60fps at even ultra settings even though according to minimum specifications that CPU was not enough. Also restrictions like this does not take into account if your system is overclocked or not. Let's say you have a I5 2500k that falls below minimum requirements with a decent overclock this very same CPU can often perform as good or better than many of the latest generation chips, so it would be silly to prevent the game from being installed/launched in cases like those.
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