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#1 Posted : Sunday, September 20, 2015 8:17:41 AM(UTC)
Sorry if it's been answered but I've been looking for information everywhere and can't find anything on this topic. I bought the f&f pack thinking I would be using those awesome cars in career mode only to find out its not possible. Is there any information on whether turn 10 has any plans of making them usable in career mode or not? Thanks to anyone with any information.

Edited by user Tuesday, September 22, 2015 3:28:36 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Problem is bigger than just the F&F cars.

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#2 Posted : Sunday, September 20, 2015 8:33:09 AM(UTC)
the bigger problem is why are they allowed online? there is only one reason people pick that tank, and its not to have the fastest laps. you can use them in freeplay and set the same conditions that the career races have so you can simulate it if you really want to experience it. as for the future plans to include them or not i have no idea.
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#3 Posted : Sunday, September 20, 2015 8:36:43 AM(UTC)
Thanks, I'll give that a try, better than nothing, just unexpected. I wouldn't have bought the pack had I known, but atleast they are usable to some extent.

Edited by user Sunday, September 20, 2015 8:39:28 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#4 Posted : Sunday, September 20, 2015 9:47:34 AM(UTC)
I guess I will ask here,does the F&F pack count as paid dlc? I bought it and no paid dlc is showing in FM6.
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#5 Posted : Sunday, September 20, 2015 11:18:52 AM(UTC)
only meant for illegal street races.. horizon 2.... and forza 6 all about modifications stock cars need not apply! :P
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#6 Posted : Sunday, September 20, 2015 1:50:19 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: T REX 5753 Go to Quoted Post
I guess I will ask here,does the F&F pack count as paid dlc? I bought it and no paid dlc is showing in FM6.


For some reason it takes a few days to sync..but it should count

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#7 Posted : Sunday, September 20, 2015 4:48:20 PM(UTC)
Really?!?!?!? You can't use them in career mode?!?!?! I don't say much bad about this game, put that is pure, unadulterated garbage. Just what the HELL are we supposed to use them for, then? I mean, if you aren't interested in the smash-fest that is multiplayer? This makes no freaking sense, and it really **** es me off. I'm dead serious. That is a silly, silly decision.

At least it came as part of my Ultimate Edition, but still burns me up.

Edited by user Sunday, September 20, 2015 4:51:02 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#8 Posted : Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:07:45 PM(UTC)
The only car in the FF pack I care about kinda is the R34 GTR, so it's def. a drag we can't use it in career.
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#9 Posted : Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:29:14 PM(UTC)
What about after the career opens up after chapter 5, can you use them then?
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#10 Posted : Sunday, September 20, 2015 10:11:14 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: MemoryKillGG Go to Quoted Post
What about after the career opens up after chapter 5, can you use them then?


probably , but no one that asks these things has played that far yet
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#11 Posted : Monday, September 21, 2015 3:58:25 AM(UTC)
I can use them in multiplayer.
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#12 Posted : Monday, September 21, 2015 4:02:53 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: talby71 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: MemoryKillGG Go to Quoted Post
What about after the career opens up after chapter 5, can you use them then?


probably , but no one that asks these things has played that far yet


You can't use them after the last volume still, the series are all the same, you can just choose to do any of them.

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#13 Posted : Monday, September 21, 2015 5:17:01 AM(UTC)
Aren't most of them just too high of a PI for the races the kind of car each one is would be allowed to race in career mode?

Maybe there's something else that prevents them from being used, I'm not sure since I just unlocked the 2nd chapter, but that would seem to be a big part of why you can't use them. Which, wouldn't really be an intentional move to not let you use them, it's just how it works out with cars that are basically pre modified.
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#14 Posted : Monday, September 21, 2015 5:37:10 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: four cam tbird Go to Quoted Post
Aren't most of them just too high of a PI for the races the kind of car each one is would be allowed to race in career mode?

Maybe there's something else that prevents them from being used, I'm not sure since I just unlocked the 2nd chapter, but that would seem to be a big part of why you can't use them. Which, wouldn't really be an intentional move to not let you use them, it's just how it works out with cars that are basically pre modified.


This makes a lot of sense.

Edited by user Monday, September 21, 2015 5:37:48 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#15 Posted : Monday, September 21, 2015 5:44:00 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: B Wald Big Mek Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: four cam tbird Go to Quoted Post
Aren't most of them just too high of a PI for the races the kind of car each one is would be allowed to race in career mode?

Maybe there's something else that prevents them from being used, I'm not sure since I just unlocked the 2nd chapter, but that would seem to be a big part of why you can't use them. Which, wouldn't really be an intentional move to not let you use them, it's just how it works out with cars that are basically pre modified.


This makes a lot of sense.


This.

The cars in question are all far more powerful than the rest of the cars that would fit in the same classes as the base cars these monstrosities are based upon.

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#16 Posted : Monday, September 21, 2015 5:44:45 AM(UTC)
But the PI on the F&F cars can be changed to how you want them so they can be made legal for a certain class.
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#17 Posted : Monday, September 21, 2015 5:49:58 AM(UTC)
Actually, I hit up manteomax's spreadsheet to see what it might reveal about this. All of the career mode races lock your car selection to a certain division so far that I have seen. None of the Fast and Furious cars are classified with a division (according to his spreadsheet). So, even if the PI restrictions allow one, without a division the division restrictions of the races would still keep you from using the F&F cars. Based on the lack of a division placement, the F&F cars aren't the only ones you can't use in career mode. Although I'm not sure Manteomax's spreadsheet is 100% accurate with that column. There are cars with a ? for division that I've seen as cars I could use in Career Mode.
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#18 Posted : Monday, September 21, 2015 5:51:01 AM(UTC)
From my understanding, the cars in this game have a group assigned to them (ie - Rally Day Heroes, Extreme Heavyweights, etc.). The FnF cars do not have any group assigned to them, therefore, they cannot be used.

Even the Gurkha cannot be used in Sports Utility Juggernauts, and that car is below the PI limit.

Edit: Ninja'd.

Edited by user Monday, September 21, 2015 5:51:53 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#19 Posted : Monday, September 21, 2015 5:56:09 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: GHR Taco Go to Quoted Post
But the PI on the F&F cars can be changed to how you want them so they can be made legal for a certain class.


Can you decrease it though? A lot of the F&F cars are too high for the races they might otherwise fit into. Especially the classic cars.
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#20 Posted : Monday, September 21, 2015 5:57:30 AM(UTC)
Question for people farther into career mode than I. FM5 had some career sections that were only restricted on car class and not on body type. Are there no sections like that in FM6?
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#21 Posted : Monday, September 21, 2015 7:31:03 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: four cam tbird Go to Quoted Post
Question for people farther into career mode than I. FM5 had some career sections that were only restricted on car class and not on body type. Are there no sections like that in FM6?


I was hoping for that, but no. I played all night hoping to open something like that when I completed the first 5 chapters, but nothing new opened up, except for all the races in the 5th section, and you can't decrease the pi on the f&f cars so unless Turn 10 changes something, they won't be usable in career.
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#22 Posted : Monday, September 21, 2015 7:37:09 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Jose99LS1 Go to Quoted Post
Thanks, I'll give that a try, better than nothing, just unexpected. I wouldn't have bought the pack had I known, but atleast they are usable to some extent.


Yeah, what a bunch of **** ... I mean the pack was a part of Day One... how can it not be allowed in Career mode?

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#23 Posted : Monday, September 21, 2015 9:02:18 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: four cam tbird Go to Quoted Post
Actually, I hit up manteomax's spreadsheet to see what it might reveal about this. All of the career mode races lock your car selection to a certain division so far that I have seen. None of the Fast and Furious cars are classified with a division (according to his spreadsheet). So, even if the PI restrictions allow one, without a division the division restrictions of the races would still keep you from using the F&F cars. Based on the lack of a division placement, the F&F cars aren't the only ones you can't use in career mode. Although I'm not sure Manteomax's spreadsheet is 100% accurate with that column. There are cars with a ? for division that I've seen as cars I could use in Career Mode.


I'd imagine this to be the most likely reason.

There's a few daft career exclusions, for instance I believe the Toyota GT86 can't be used in any of the series, yet the BRZ can be (I may have that the wrong way around)

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#24 Posted : Monday, September 21, 2015 9:50:20 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: deadlycowpat95 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: four cam tbird Go to Quoted Post
Actually, I hit up manteomax's spreadsheet to see what it might reveal about this. All of the career mode races lock your car selection to a certain division so far that I have seen. None of the Fast and Furious cars are classified with a division (according to his spreadsheet). So, even if the PI restrictions allow one, without a division the division restrictions of the races would still keep you from using the F&F cars. Based on the lack of a division placement, the F&F cars aren't the only ones you can't use in career mode. Although I'm not sure Manteomax's spreadsheet is 100% accurate with that column. There are cars with a ? for division that I've seen as cars I could use in Career Mode.


I'd imagine this to be the most likely reason.

There's a few daft career exclusions, for instance I believe the Toyota GT86 can't be used in any of the series, yet the BRZ can be (I may have that the wrong way around)


This is why the entire "PI Restricitons" is total bull, and should not have been different to how FH2 does it. For example classic compacts only scales up to E-Class, but if you didn't have any restricitons on it, you'd auotmatically be able to include the MK1 Escort, which would of been amazing.

Same thing with the Gurka but for the other way around, that is way below, but is undivisioned.

Funny though because if this was a PC game, it would be a simple thing to mod.

It's a real shame these cars are left out :\. Real shame. Not even having exlusive events for them either is also silly, would of been a lot more fun to add a "fast and furious" showcase series with these vehicles, how hard would that be to add in the future? I hope this doesn't happen with future car packs, as your GT86 example is another silly oversight..
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#25 Posted : Monday, September 21, 2015 9:53:07 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: deadlycowpat95 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: four cam tbird Go to Quoted Post
Actually, I hit up manteomax's spreadsheet to see what it might reveal about this. All of the career mode races lock your car selection to a certain division so far that I have seen. None of the Fast and Furious cars are classified with a division (according to his spreadsheet). So, even if the PI restrictions allow one, without a division the division restrictions of the races would still keep you from using the F&F cars. Based on the lack of a division placement, the F&F cars aren't the only ones you can't use in career mode. Although I'm not sure Manteomax's spreadsheet is 100% accurate with that column. There are cars with a ? for division that I've seen as cars I could use in Career Mode.


I'd imagine this to be the most likely reason.

There's a few daft career exclusions, for instance I believe the Toyota GT86 can't be used in any of the series, yet the BRZ can be (I may have that the wrong way around)


Yeah there's a bunch of cars that don't have a division. Really sucks because one of my favorites (Lancia Stratos) does not have a division and thus I can't use it in career mode :(
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