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#1 Posted : Sunday, February 14, 2021 8:22:40 AM(UTC)
I can't see a thread about this, having looked at the last few days of threads:

https://www.gtplanet.net...-your-feedback-20210210/

I won't be applying, as I feel I have already given them plenty of feedback that they have taken no notice of whatsoever, so don't see why I should invest any more of my time. But some people here may feel inclined to at least spend some more time trying.
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#2 Posted : Sunday, February 14, 2021 8:59:22 AM(UTC)
Feels the type of thing we might expect a Community Liaison Manager might be posting on the forum. Do we still have one? I can’t really recall anything I’ve seen on here since Retro left.
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#3 Posted : Sunday, February 14, 2021 9:07:10 AM(UTC)
No way would I help them with this when they have sat with their fingers in their ears for so long at all the feedback they've received so far and while so much is wrong with the current game which they could have fixed with minimal effort.

They will do whatever they want to do anyway! Regardless of what any of us say. So let them get on with it.
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#4 Posted : Sunday, February 14, 2021 9:10:22 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: FullNietzsche Go to Quoted Post
...which they could have fixed with minimal effort. They will do whatever they want to do anyway! Regardless of what any of us say.




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#5 Posted : Sunday, February 14, 2021 9:29:22 AM(UTC)
I might give it a go after a couple of glasses of wine....or more :D
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#6 Posted : Sunday, February 14, 2021 9:34:56 AM(UTC)
Being a game designer I feel compelled to do it.
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#7 Posted : Sunday, February 14, 2021 10:00:50 AM(UTC)
Well if you do Aqua, would you mind awfully telling them to FIX THE FLIPPING DESIGNS/TUNES IMPORT FEATURE!!!!…… ta 🙂

FM7 / FM6 / FM4 / FM3 / FM2
FH4 / FH3
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#8 Posted : Sunday, February 14, 2021 10:50:07 AM(UTC)
There is only one question connected with Forza
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#9 Posted : Sunday, February 14, 2021 12:30:57 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: ziperrPL Go to Quoted Post
There is only one question connected with Forza


It is very random, I don't know how they would find useful applicants from that.

Edited by user Sunday, February 14, 2021 12:33:22 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#10 Posted : Sunday, February 14, 2021 2:58:46 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: FullNietzsche Go to Quoted Post
No way would I help them with this when they have sat with their fingers in their ears for so long at all the feedback they've received so far and while so much is wrong with the current game which they could have fixed with minimal effort.

They will do whatever they want to do anyway! Regardless of what any of us say. So let them get on with it.


Don't know what you're talking about FN, they add free cars every series which shows they care so deeply about the game!!

But no seriously +1, and you'd think there'd be at least one person at PG who actually plays the game themselves enough to have encountered the problems people bring up, but like a lot of people in today's world that hilariously ironically named song they put in with the LEGO expansion probably sums up the only type of people they'll pay attention to.

Everything is awesome.

Suppose when put like that bree starting this thread could actually be useful to a couple of regulars on here.
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, February 16, 2021 5:44:28 AM(UTC)
They want praise, not feedback.
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, February 16, 2021 11:09:59 PM(UTC)
I did this last week. I certainly understand rejecting the idea as alllllllllllllllllllll the feedback posted here on a regular basis seems to go ignored, but I figure the survey is an open to possible reception on their end. SOMEBODY is going to be on the other end of this collecting the data, whereas here in the echochamber we'll never really know if or when we have their attention (I've alwasy likened forum game feedback discussions to children saying their prayers at bedtime; the odds seem roughly about the same).

The questions, as I recall them, seemed like they'd be of more interest to Microsoft than to Playground or Turn10. More basic, general behavioral inquiries than the specific "What do think would make X better? How can we fix Y?" type of questions I believe we all crave.

Edited by user Tuesday, February 16, 2021 11:11:45 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Every train needs a caboose, right?
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#13 Posted : Wednesday, February 17, 2021 2:00:00 AM(UTC)
It had many game genres, but it didn't include Driving games. Apparently Sport is supposed to cover Driving Games, but the examples are soccer games. I hate soccer games!

So my first feedback would be to improve the feedback form..lol!

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#14 Posted : Wednesday, February 17, 2021 2:15:42 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Jezza14 Go to Quoted Post
Feels the type of thing we might expect a Community Liaison Manager might be posting on the forum. Do we still have one? I can’t really recall anything I’ve seen on here since Retro left.


Retro?

Wasn't it Nitro Jezza ?
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#15 Posted : Wednesday, February 17, 2021 2:42:40 AM(UTC)
Pretty sure it was Retro on here but I might not have her official title right. Worth noting that she had just over 1,000 posts on here in 15 months and her replacement has 21 posts in 12 months. Probably explains why it feels there is substantially less engagement.
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#16 Posted : Wednesday, February 17, 2021 3:42:09 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: wwwREXwww Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Jezza14 Go to Quoted Post
Feels the type of thing we might expect a Community Liaison Manager might be posting on the forum. Do we still have one? I can’t really recall anything I’ve seen on here since Retro left.


Retro?

Wasn't it Nitro Jezza ?


I think it was Nitro on the Forza motorsport forums and Retrocrystal here. Its been a while they´re gone now.
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#17 Posted : Wednesday, February 17, 2021 4:04:34 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: OdEssA VL Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: wwwREXwww Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Jezza14 Go to Quoted Post
Feels the type of thing we might expect a Community Liaison Manager might be posting on the forum. Do we still have one? I can’t really recall anything I’ve seen on here since Retro left.


Retro?

Wasn't it Nitro Jezza ?


I think it was Nitro on the Forza motorsport forums and Retrocrystal here. Its been a while they´re gone now.


Ahhh thats right, my apologies to all, kept getting them mixed up all the time and still do lol!!!!! :)

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#18 Posted : Wednesday, February 17, 2021 6:25:24 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: AquaPainter168 Go to Quoted Post
It had many game genres, but it didn't include Driving games. Apparently Sport is supposed to cover Driving Games, but the examples are soccer games. I hate soccer games!

So my first feedback would be to improve the feedback form..lol!


Talking of that I don't know why they've never bothered with car football in Horizon, it was hugely popular in FM4, even a grump like me who rarely ever bothers with online without an incentive loved it and played regularly.

I'd rather see them rip off Rocket League than try and add another thing that reeks of Fortnite.
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#19 Posted : Wednesday, February 17, 2021 9:50:39 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: OdEssA VL Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: wwwREXwww Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Jezza14 Go to Quoted Post
Feels the type of thing we might expect a Community Liaison Manager might be posting on the forum. Do we still have one? I can’t really recall anything I’ve seen on here since Retro left.


Retro?

Wasn't it Nitro Jezza ?


I think it was Nitro on the Forza motorsport forums and Retrocrystal here. Its been a while they´re gone now.


Mechberg was FM liaison.

Feedback is sorta useless when we say "give us props in the Route Creator!" and PG hears "did you say you wanted Bucket List Blueprint on steroids?".
May the forced induction be with you.

Alice >>>>>>>>>> Keira
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#20 Posted : Wednesday, February 17, 2021 11:42:05 AM(UTC)
It is not just one survey. Been in this program for a while. They periodically send surveys about different things. Different aspects of the game. If you guys aren’t going to give feedback who will? Don’t complain than when there is something you may have been able to contribute no matter how small that you said I just don’t care. Sometimes there are bonuses too. It’s worth it.

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#21 Posted : Wednesday, February 17, 2021 1:46:54 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: leetorts Go to Quoted Post
It is not just one survey. Been in this program for a while. They periodically send surveys about different things. Different aspects of the game. If you guys aren’t going to give feedback who will? Don’t complain than when there is something you may have been able to contribute no matter how small that you said I just don’t care. Sometimes there are bonuses too. It’s worth it.


It seems that you missed the point... The feedback is on this site already, it's fairly obvious that it's ignored.
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#22 Posted : Wednesday, February 17, 2021 2:09:40 PM(UTC)
I think it’s you who has missed the point. So maybe try something else.... Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity. As I alluded to, sometimes there are incentives that may save you money.
Do you really want me giving all the feedback on survey’s? 😜

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#23 Posted : Wednesday, February 17, 2021 11:31:03 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: AquaPainter168 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: leetorts Go to Quoted Post
It is not just one survey. Been in this program for a while. They periodically send surveys about different things. Different aspects of the game. If you guys aren’t going to give feedback who will? Don’t complain than when there is something you may have been able to contribute no matter how small that you said I just don’t care. Sometimes there are bonuses too. It’s worth it.


It seems that you missed the point... The feedback is on this site already, it's fairly obvious that it's ignored.


So the point should be to ignore the survey and complain endlessly in the echo chamber?
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#24 Posted : Wednesday, February 17, 2021 11:33:43 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: leetorts Go to Quoted Post
Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity.

That's exactly why I'm not spending my time applying to be on their panel. I've given feedback on some aspects of the game that I can't see would be hard to implement, and none have been implemented. So as I don't expect a different result if I give them any more feedback, I'm not giving them any more feedback!
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#25 Posted : Thursday, February 18, 2021 1:40:48 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: breeminator Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: leetorts Go to Quoted Post
Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity.

That's exactly why I'm not spending my time applying to be on their panel. I've given feedback on some aspects of the game that I can't see would be hard to implement, and none have been implemented. So as I don't expect a different result if I give them any more feedback, I'm not giving them any more feedback!


This, but also I would add: doesn't there come a point where a developer should be able to see obvious flaws and fix them without it needing to be pointed out and explained in a survey?

Forza currently is like a burning house and the fire department is asking for feedback on what they think the house needs. They are waiting for you to explain to get in the fire trucks and drive to the house and put some water on the fire. Until you explain this to them, they refuse to do it. Why would anyone want to engage with that sort of stubborn developer?
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