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#1 Posted : Monday, December 21, 2020 2:19:39 PM(UTC)
Well, I got my new console and the upgraded Forza Horizon 4 installed, but none of my car packs came with. Fortune Island and Lego came with for free, but I literally have cars in my garage that I've already upgraded and raced many times that I can no longer drive unless I play on my Xbox One where those car packs are still unlocked.

I own the car pass and just about every dlc car there is. I think the only thing I didn't buy was the james bond car pack.

Is this intentional? Do I have to buy the car pass a second time?
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#2 Posted : Monday, December 21, 2020 2:40:37 PM(UTC)
You shouldn't need to buy the car pass a second time. Any content purchased on the Xbox One should carry over, but it may not have been installed.

I'd check your 'My Games and Apps' and see whether the car packs have been installed. You can then check whether Forza Horizon 4 has any items waiting to be downloaded or not.

Hope that helps.
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, December 22, 2020 1:43:37 PM(UTC)
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#4 Posted : Friday, December 25, 2020 1:38:12 PM(UTC)
say, has the missing ambient occlusion in the series x version been fixed by now? Its,a pity that the game looks worse on the more powerful console. I'd rather have a somewhat lowered resolution instead.
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#5 Posted : Saturday, December 26, 2020 6:41:45 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: karaokefreak Go to Quoted Post
say, has the missing ambient occlusion in the series x version been fixed by now? Its,a pity that the game looks worse on the more powerful console. I'd rather have a somewhat lowered resolution instead.

It's not broken. It looks better.
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#6 Posted : Saturday, December 26, 2020 8:04:17 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: MrBdur Go to Quoted Post
Well, I got my new console and the upgraded Forza Horizon 4 installed, but none of my car packs came with. Fortune Island and Lego came with for free, but I literally have cars in my garage that I've already upgraded and raced many times that I can no longer drive unless I play on my Xbox One where those car packs are still unlocked.

I own the car pass and just about every dlc car there is. I think the only thing I didn't buy was the james bond car pack.

Is this intentional? Do I have to buy the car pass a second time?


No, you don't have to buy it again. Did you make the new xbox your home xbox?
You might try reinstalling FH4.. That's what I had to do.
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#7 Posted : Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:07:07 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: turtleCZ Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: karaokefreak Go to Quoted Post
say, has the missing ambient occlusion in the series x version been fixed by now? Its,a pity that the game looks worse on the more powerful console. I'd rather have a somewhat lowered resolution instead.

It's not broken. It looks better.


No, it doesn't. it runs at 60fps, which is great. But it is missing ambient occlusion, which makes side objects appear tacked on, as if they weren't part of the environment. That wasn't the case on Xbox One X, but it is on Xbox Series X. Just watch the review by digital foundry on youtube.

Edited by user Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:08:31 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#8 Posted : Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:42:24 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: karaokefreak Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: turtleCZ Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: karaokefreak Go to Quoted Post
say, has the missing ambient occlusion in the series x version been fixed by now? Its,a pity that the game looks worse on the more powerful console. I'd rather have a somewhat lowered resolution instead.

It's not broken. It looks better.


No, it doesn't. it runs at 60fps, which is great. But it is missing ambient occlusion, which makes side objects appear tacked on, as if they weren't part of the environment. That wasn't the case on Xbox One X, but it is on Xbox Series X. Just watch the review by digital foundry on youtube.

It was always 60 FPS, it's nicer now.

I know the stuff but many people still talk about quality mode. Who cares about quality mode? Is it possible to have it on XSX? Sure, but it's not because performance mode is there already and it won't maybe change.

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#9 Posted : Sunday, December 27, 2020 2:37:52 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: turtleCZ Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: karaokefreak Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: turtleCZ Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: karaokefreak Go to Quoted Post
say, has the missing ambient occlusion in the series x version been fixed by now? Its,a pity that the game looks worse on the more powerful console. I'd rather have a somewhat lowered resolution instead.

It's not broken. It looks better.


No, it doesn't. it runs at 60fps, which is great. But it is missing ambient occlusion, which makes side objects appear tacked on, as if they weren't part of the environment. That wasn't the case on Xbox One X, but it is on Xbox Series X. Just watch the review by digital foundry on youtube.

It was always 60 FPS, it's nicer now.

I know the stuff but many people still talk about quality mode. Who cares about quality mode? Is it possible to have it on XSX? Sure, but it's not because performance mode is there already and it won't maybe change.



The game has been reduced for Series X. That's what people are saying, and it's true.
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#10 Posted : Sunday, December 27, 2020 2:55:48 AM(UTC)
No, it's not true, it was improved. Better resolution and my new effects.
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#11 Posted : Sunday, December 27, 2020 3:38:52 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: turtleCZ Go to Quoted Post
No, it's not true, it was improved. Better resolution and my new effects.


Well you could improve the resolution on a standard Xox One if you removed things from it, so that doesn't really count on its own. What new effects does the series X have? ...The snow effect looks worse.

Hopefully they will fix everything eventually.

Edited by user Sunday, December 27, 2020 3:48:18 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#12 Posted : Sunday, December 27, 2020 4:11:00 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: AquaPainter168 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: turtleCZ Go to Quoted Post
No, it's not true, it was improved. Better resolution and my new effects.


Well you could improve the resolution on a standard Xox One if you removed things from it, so that doesn't really count on its own. What new effects does the series X have? ...The snow effect looks worse.

Hopefully they will fix everything eventually.

Night shadows during free-roam. Much better rain effects. Much more detailed cars. Many things you didn't have. I am very happy. It can't be fixed when it's not broken.

Edited by user Sunday, December 27, 2020 4:11:30 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#13 Posted : Sunday, December 27, 2020 4:30:48 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: turtleCZ Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: AquaPainter168 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: turtleCZ Go to Quoted Post
No, it's not true, it was improved. Better resolution and my new effects.


Well you could improve the resolution on a standard Xox One if you removed things from it, so that doesn't really count on its own. What new effects does the series X have? ...The snow effect looks worse.

Hopefully they will fix everything eventually.

Night shadows during free-roam. Much better rain effects. Much more detailed cars. Many things you didn't have. I am very happy. It can't be fixed when it's not broken.


Night shadows were removed from racing which you get on XBox One X.
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#14 Posted : Sunday, December 27, 2020 4:51:42 AM(UTC)
no
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#15 Posted : Sunday, December 27, 2020 4:57:13 AM(UTC)
I have a request, you could stick on carbon foils on it, because for example the Senna I can not foil the rear bumper at all
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#16 Posted : Sunday, December 27, 2020 8:41:19 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: turtleCZ Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: karaokefreak Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: turtleCZ Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: karaokefreak Go to Quoted Post
say, has the missing ambient occlusion in the series x version been fixed by now? Its,a pity that the game looks worse on the more powerful console. I'd rather have a somewhat lowered resolution instead.

It's not broken. It looks better.


No, it doesn't. it runs at 60fps, which is great. But it is missing ambient occlusion, which makes side objects appear tacked on, as if they weren't part of the environment. That wasn't the case on Xbox One X, but it is on Xbox Series X. Just watch the review by digital foundry on youtube.

It was always 60 FPS, it's nicer now.

I know the stuff but many people still talk about quality mode. Who cares about quality mode? Is it possible to have it on XSX? Sure, but it's not because performance mode is there already and it won't maybe change.



I went from the one s to the one x specifically for FH4 quality mode, I was already playing at 30 fps but the jump to 4k with better effects was worth it, why would I go from one x to series x just to gain 60 fps, slightly better graphics but lose things like dynamic shadows in racing and photo mode and ambient occlusion, you don't speak for everyone saying who cares about quality mode

https://www.reddit.com/r...at_dynamic_shadows_dont/
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#17 Posted : Sunday, December 27, 2020 9:37:34 AM(UTC)
I am just saying some ppl here are wrong. It's better in many ways. There is no quality mode on XSX. 30 FPS is not good for gaming anyway.

So no downgrades, no fixing needed, etc.
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#18 Posted : Sunday, December 27, 2020 9:42:24 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: turtleCZ Go to Quoted Post
I am just saying some ppl here are wrong. It's better in many ways. There is no quality mode on XSX. 30 FPS is not good for gaming anyway.

So no downgrades, no fixing needed, etc.


Nobody would expect 30fps quality mode on Series X, we all expected 60fps Quality mode as standard mode on Series X.
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#19 Posted : Sunday, December 27, 2020 9:53:54 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: AquaPainter168 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: turtleCZ Go to Quoted Post
I am just saying some ppl here are wrong. It's better in many ways. There is no quality mode on XSX. 30 FPS is not good for gaming anyway.

So no downgrades, no fixing needed, etc.


Nobody would expect 30fps quality mode on Series X, we all expected 60fps Quality mode as standard mode on Series X.

I didn't. I am very happy with current state. PG and T10 have probably very big troubles so current situation is good for me. Much better than usual broken patches.
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#20 Posted : Sunday, December 27, 2020 10:59:15 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: turtleCZ Go to Quoted Post
I am just saying some ppl here are wrong. It's better in many ways. There is no quality mode on XSX. 30 FPS is not good for gaming anyway.

So no downgrades, no fixing needed, etc.


So loss of dynamic shadows in races and photomode and removal of ambient occlusion is not a downgrade?
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#21 Posted : Sunday, December 27, 2020 11:22:34 AM(UTC)
There is no any loss.
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#22 Posted : Sunday, December 27, 2020 3:56:39 PM(UTC)
If you feel that the improvements outweigh the downgrades good for you but it is a fact that some area's have been downgraded from what was the previous best version of the game available on console which was the One X.
People are allowed to be surprised by this and question why, it is a loss no matter how you look at it.
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#23 Posted : Sunday, December 27, 2020 4:40:02 PM(UTC)
Best version has now higher resolution and many effects. Not any downgrade.
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#24 Posted : Sunday, December 27, 2020 4:47:05 PM(UTC)
There were no additional upgrades after the Digital Foundry article. So headlight shadows at night are not present in races, only in the open world. No screen-space ambient occlusion (SSAO)>
As DF stated 4K30 quality mode on Xbox One X looks better.
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#25 Posted : Tuesday, January 5, 2021 1:31:17 AM(UTC)
I noticed on the Panic Button website that one of their goals was to have FH4 running up to 120fps. That would be an odd thing to put if they never actually achieved it.

https://panicbuttongames...m/games/forza-horizon-4/

This is the only place I have heard mention of FH4 running at 120hz on XSX.

This might suggest they withdrew a 120hz mode before release or that there will be a 120hz mode coming at some point right?
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