Originally Posted by: turtleCZ 
Originally Posted by: Tilo38 
Originally Posted by: turtleCZ 
Originally Posted by: AntoBooT 
What do you think?
You are right! The more racing game I play the more I see how Forza is good. It has flaws but still it's much better than anything else overall.
The rendering / graphics / physics / Open world concept is clearly ahead of anything other game. For me it explains itself the success of FH, just driving around is like a taste of the matrix.
There is no 50 pages thread about complaining about FH4 graphical rendering or free roam driving, or houses & building rendering etc. Main focus of feedback is on gameplay. My wish for FH5, if one, is that they consider what happened with FH4 following FH3, having to bring fixes for fair play , to add back FFA and rivals, the tens of pages of complaints regarding ranked ... If only they could just improve the existing gameplay instead of adding new features.
Yeah, I was rather thinking about Motorsport in that time :D I am not sure why but Forzas are awesome.
It has some flaws. There are no perfect games and Forzas are very near. It's a bit sad because you mentioned important things but that's how it is today. We can switch to completely broken PC3 or not completed Grid. There is no real competition.
And that's why the devs are free to be as careless as they like in certain genres, EA's sports games are awful simulations of their sport but all the licenses mean nobody can get near them so from their perspective there's little reason to improve and GTA V/Online has stagnated 1 of the most beloved franchises in gaming + changed what was many people's favourite dev into one that completely disregards SP people once the main game is released and encourages buying the shark cards with the insane prices of things in GTAO (360k for a Mini or 10 million for the game's generic small jet but with a gold skin anyone?), but for the same reason as EA why would the suits tell the devs to do any better while they're at the top of the tree + making huge money as is?
FH4 is nowhere near as disrespectful to it's players as them two, I mean maybe some of it is a little infantile but it isn't insulting to it's players at all really, all the silly little things add up though, other than FH2 on the 360 I haven't sighed or gone 'ugh' at something technical going wrong or something there by design as much in any Forza game.
That's the thing some people on here don't and don't even try or want to understand, nowhere do people say it's a bad game, but so many things around the game's fantastic core either make little sense, come off as unnecessary faff or are just plain bad and they irk people.
Imagine doing something you enjoy a lot but someone regularly pokes and prods you with their finger during it, would that stop you from doing it? Not 1 bit, would it get irritating though? Of course it would.