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#1 Posted : Thursday, July 25, 2019 8:58:16 AM(UTC)
If you can't beat either the Pro or Unbeatable Drivatars please, Please, PLEASE avoid doing any of the Trial events.

Why are you in the event if you can't at least beat one of the Drivatars that is in front of you?
Honestly if you can't handle the difficulty then leave and come back with a faster car.

Here are some tips:
1) Get a good car, as OP as you get the better cause we need fast cars on the team. Stop using stock cars to race against the AI
2) Learn the maps
3) Get better at beating the AI on higher difficulties
4) [Mod Edit - Abbreviated profanity, profanity and profanity that is disguised but still alludes to the words are not permitted - D]
5) Avoid hitting your team mates, idk why people in a TEAM race would push their team mates around and slow everyone down.
6) Git gud, if you come in last place in all the Trial events and you haven't even beaten 1 drivatar in front of you then you're a liability

I hope this tips help you in your journey to get which ever car Trial Events have on offer this week or the next.

If anyone else wanna add these tips PLEASE DO SO! Sick of seeing people struggle against even the slowest AI on the team.

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#2 Posted : Thursday, July 25, 2019 9:55:33 AM(UTC)
This is a problem with the game design more than the players (aside from intentionally ramming team members). So long as The Trial has to be completed to unlock content, people will be compelled to enter regardless of their skill level. Plus, not everyone can be expected to reach the same skill level.

Getting in the right car with the right tune for the job is important though. You're absolutely right about that.
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#3 Posted : Thursday, July 25, 2019 10:04:39 AM(UTC)
Fix the disconnections for the love of God !!! I'm tired of this **** , so many months and still a disconnection lottery.

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#4 Posted : Thursday, July 25, 2019 10:28:18 AM(UTC)
Not all plays have skill or the ability to get better, I have no problem with carrying one player so they can get the reward.
Just do the best you can and stay out of the way, which I think most do.

The problem is when you have four of the six players at the back of the pack.
If you picked a bad car the quit in the first race as the next races can usually be recovered from as your points to the other team are no longer added.
Look what cars are fast in the first race, try to get one of these.
Dont run cars stock, plenty of tunes are available within the hour of events going live.
Stay out of the way of faster players and dont ram.

If your a faster player then slow down and stay just slightly ahead as this wont slingshot the computer players as much. I usually get to front then start to block the computer players but if a player passes me then races off into the distance the computer players get a speed burst and are hard to control.

Its a TEAM event, not sure why its so hard for people to understand that.
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#5 Posted : Thursday, July 25, 2019 11:41:23 AM(UTC)
God, after lots and lots of winning 2:0 and receiving disconnection "surprises" middle race, my prayers been answers and I was able to get the car. My 2 cents, stay away from BJ Ford Bronco and pray drivatars won't have one, for some reason the laws of physics are bent to the ridiculous limits by drivatars using that car. Watch out before checkpoint since drivatars will try to hit you around them (they are learning form players after all xD ), and try to aim for the holes in fences, walls etc. made by your teammates/drivatars to not lose speed by hitting the solid part of the obstacle.
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#6 Posted : Thursday, July 25, 2019 11:45:20 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Currysoda Go to Quoted Post
If you can't beat either the Pro or Unbeatable Drivatars please, Please, PLEASE avoid doing any of the Trial events.

Why are you in the event if you can't at least beat one of the Drivatars that is in front of you?
Honestly if you can't handle the difficulty then leave and come back with a faster car.

Here are some tips:
1) Get a good car, as OP as you get the better cause we need fast cars on the team. Stop using stock cars to race against the AI
2) Learn the maps
3) Get better at beating the AI on higher difficulties
4) Drive fast and careful, the AI can be on some **** when you pull up next to them
5) Avoid hitting your team mates, idk why people in a TEAM race would push their team mates around and slow everyone down.
6) Git gud, if you come in last place in all the Trial events and you haven't even beaten 1 drivatar in front of you then you're a liability

I hope this tips help you in your journey to get which ever car Trial Events have on offer this week or the next.

If anyone else wanna add these tips PLEASE DO SO! Sick of seeing people struggle against even the slowest AI on the team.


Or just simply enjoy the game that you've paid for and play how you wish.

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#7 Posted : Thursday, July 25, 2019 3:19:44 PM(UTC)
Unfortunately I doubt any of the people in stock 6x6’s that I keep lapping read this forum.. :/

(But just in case y’all do: if you insist of using the stock 6x6 please at least take 12 seconds to fix the stock tuning on the front diff, then take another 12 seconds to turn off your mic.)
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#8 Posted : Thursday, July 25, 2019 4:24:38 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: grolschie Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Currysoda Go to Quoted Post
If you can't beat either the Pro or Unbeatable Drivatars please, Please, PLEASE avoid doing any of the Trial events.

Why are you in the event if you can't at least beat one of the Drivatars that is in front of you?
Honestly if you can't handle the difficulty then leave and come back with a faster car.

Here are some tips:
1) Get a good car, as OP as you get the better cause we need fast cars on the team. Stop using stock cars to race against the AI
2) Learn the maps
3) Get better at beating the AI on higher difficulties
4) Drive fast and careful, the AI can be on some **** when you pull up next to them
5) Avoid hitting your team mates, idk why people in a TEAM race would push their team mates around and slow everyone down.
6) Git gud, if you come in last place in all the Trial events and you haven't even beaten 1 drivatar in front of you then you're a liability

I hope this tips help you in your journey to get which ever car Trial Events have on offer this week or the next.

If anyone else wanna add these tips PLEASE DO SO! Sick of seeing people struggle against even the slowest AI on the team.


Or just simply enjoy the game that you've paid for and play how you wish.




Words to live by, and pray you have competent teammates to carry you. Or at least have the decency to drop out if you can carry your own weight.

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#9 Posted : Thursday, July 25, 2019 6:10:32 PM(UTC)
Most top players and those of us who tune our cars typically take 1 to 2 races to figure out which vehicle to use and which way to tune such vehicle to beat the AI.

The average player who doesn't manually tune will likely more than not pick the highest level vehicle first then proceed to finding a tune for said vehicle working their way through until either they start overtaking the AI or they tag onto the team win.

The rest who never tune, don't know how and or simply don't want to deal with this will pick stock and stick to it, why not, this has served them well offline, so assumption made it should work online... However this isn't the case, online typically demands for a well tuned car to beat the AI.

I've no issues helping team members to win, but and it's a big but.. if they go out their way to ram, smash and or block you deliberately I'll quit the race... Why should people like this benefit from bad driving behaviour?

My typical goal is to get infront and slow the AI down by blocking the natural raceline. This works on most occasions, however when a team member fails to spot what's going on and rams both the AI and myself out the way.. yes I've been knowing to rage quit in instances like this.

There is only one golden rule to a 'Team' race and that's to act like a team, not an ego tripping Muppet who's all out for themselves. Points count..!! Not overall position. First doesn't always mean a win... A team can easily win with a 2,3,4 finish so slow the AI down and let the 'Joe Blog' player catch up and pass them helping the team to win.

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#10 Posted : Thursday, July 25, 2019 6:45:23 PM(UTC)
Ha, that was a mad trial. I tried a few offroaders, but the Ranger Raptor was the best for the job. Our team beat the drivatars 3-0 (for some reason the game gave us the victory during The Titan, even though the drivatars slaughtered us in that race, it wouldn't have mattered anyway)

#1 DON'T use the Jeep Wrangler Rubicon. It doesn't have enough horsepower. I could only get 436 hp out of it and that wasn't enough to keep up with the Broncos and 6x6s that the drivatars used.
#2 DON'T use the 6x6, the handling is garbage for racing, even after tuning the differential before the race. I missed a checkpoint during the second race after the ramp because of the ferocious understeer. No matter how many times I hit rewind before the checkpoint, the cumbersome beast kept missing.
#3 DON'T use the Hummer H1, the launch is terrible. During one session on the mortimer gardens scramble, I had to pull out of the way of the start line so my teammates could get past.
#4 DON'T use the Gurkha. If you struggle with The Trial, then this hulking monster is going to be frustrating to drive. It's also got a high center of gravity so you could roll mid race.

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#11 Posted : Friday, July 26, 2019 12:31:24 AM(UTC)
don't do this, don't do that...

I didn't know there are rules for playing online

I always use stock car for both campaign/online races and do the trials

I'm sorry, but it's not my problem if people just can't drive anything, and tuned cars not exactly win races:



ohh what's that? a ZR2 fully upgraded? last place?
.....


cheers!

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#12 Posted : Friday, July 26, 2019 12:48:12 AM(UTC)
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ohh what's that? a ZR2 fully upgraded? last place?!


Pretty sure that is not last place, as it says 10 and it's still putting points on the board, instead of giving free points to any and all Drivatars while giving none to the human team. I much prefer people who don't give up, even when outclassed, to the army of bots, griefers and other assorted idiots parking their car near the starting line.

Originally Posted by: TNTNRX Go to Quoted Post
it's not my problem if people just can't drive anything


Conceivably, it can become my problem if there are too many of those in my team. But after reading the title of this topic a second time, somehow I get the feeling you were not the intended target audience of it, and me neither for that matter, as I can't remember the last time I had to re-do a Trial.

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#13 Posted : Friday, July 26, 2019 1:27:45 AM(UTC)
If you're far ahead and would like to help your team, you can try to slow down the AI drivers to let your teammates pass. Seen my teammates doing this several times and also I did it a few times.

I know, this isn't the point of racing but it saves time and nerves.
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#14 Posted : Friday, July 26, 2019 1:36:09 AM(UTC)
And it works.
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#15 Posted : Friday, July 26, 2019 7:21:27 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: TNTNRX Go to Quoted Post
don't do this, don't do that...

I didn't know there are rules for playing online


Never claimed that there were, I was just giving advice on what is easy to drive for people who are struggling.
But first place in a bone stock Chevy, all power to you.

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#16 Posted : Friday, July 26, 2019 8:30:13 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: R3L04D Go to Quoted Post
Ha, that was a mad trial. I tried a few offroaders, but the Ranger Raptor was the best for the job. Our team beat the drivatars 3-0 (for some reason the game gave us the victory during The Titan, even though the drivatars slaughtered us in that race, it wouldn't have mattered anyway)

#1 DON'T use the Jeep Wrangler Rubicon. It doesn't have enough horsepower. I could only get 436 hp out of it and that wasn't enough to keep up with the Broncos and 6x6s that the drivatars used.



I'm not sure how anyone is having difficulty with a B class trial, but my B class Wrangler Rubicon makes over 570hp and I modified the tune a little for this event. It's now more stable at speed and in the top 10 of the Coastal Rush Rivals times. Might be the fastest of the bunch driving Manual w/clutch and no aids.
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#17 Posted : Saturday, July 27, 2019 6:07:10 AM(UTC)
I wouldn't expect much out of the Forza community. If my experience is the norm, then they are all awful drivers who would rather ram their teammates off the course than win the event.

They also don't know which button is the brakes.

Luckily, I have friends who play this game.
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#18 Posted : Saturday, July 27, 2019 6:37:13 AM(UTC)
It's just idiots that are too lazy to help out and just want others to do their work for them OR people that purposely play to lose because they get a kick out of ruining other people's races. I'm sure there is the odd instance where someone gets a bad tune, forgets they have no tune or gets bumped out of the flags (happens to me sometimes but I have the decency to drop out and restart if it looks like it will cost the win so I don't ruin the other people's game by being a useless leech).

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#19 Posted : Saturday, July 27, 2019 9:02:38 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: R3L04D Go to Quoted Post
Ha, that was a mad trial. I tried a few offroaders, but the Ranger Raptor was the best for the job.

Totally agree! Made my own tune and it blitzed the unbeatable AI.

Unfortunately, I had to retry "The Trial" several times as although I came first almost every time, some of my team mates were appalling and either rammed me off course or came in the last four and this was even thought I had an easily noticeable livery and not the default the drivertars had..

Even despite being rammed off early in some of the races, I was still able to finish first, so yes, a well tuned "Ranger Raptor" is king.

Saying that though, in one of my attempts, that little white Jeep Wrangler was kicking butt, so that maybe a good choice for some players.

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#20 Posted : Saturday, July 27, 2019 9:30:34 AM(UTC)
I started playing FH4 a month and a half ago and have only done two trials so far, one for the ZR2 and now for the Jeep DD. The teams I got won first try on both trials. I will admit that there are lots of idiots that just ram me off the road or try and slow me down because they don't realize that it's a co-op style of race and we have to work together to get the reward, but by just having decently built (not even OP) cars and following logical lines and actually braking for corners, I was able to carry most of the time, surprisingly. I also second the Ranger Raptor suggestion for the current trial, I ran it with one that I built to the top of B class without even swapping the engine and I was still able to easily catch up to the AI. I've seen lots of people complain about the trials and I personally don't understand. Are people not driving properly? Do they not realize the importance of proper upgrades and tuning?
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#21 Posted : Saturday, July 27, 2019 10:06:56 AM(UTC)
I’ve logged in here for the first time in years to post about this exact thing. I’m glad to see I’m not the only person getting increasingly frustrated by this. It’s so annoying that I have to rely on other players to win the achievements on each season, I waste hours of my life doing the same trials over and over again praying that I’m going to be matched with players that can actually drive.

I’ve just done this seasons trial around 10 times in a row, I’ve been first in every race but at least 3 of the other players in my team will be the 3 people in last place. Your own teammates roaming into you and stopping you getting past is the worst too. I absolutely hate playground games too, the fact that it has to be done to win all achievements infuriates me.

I agree with most of the people chatting in this topic, if you can’t beat unbeatable CPU’s in general play, stay out of the trial.
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#22 Posted : Saturday, July 27, 2019 10:56:19 AM(UTC)
Maybe it would help if i could see what cars can actually enter the trail.... I see three cars available to join. The Ford raptor 2011, the Bronco and the 6x6 merc. Then i enter and what do i see, lots of other cars that could enter.....???? What are the limitations? How can i find this so i can actually pick and tune a car?

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#23 Posted : Saturday, July 27, 2019 1:22:27 PM(UTC)
I had zero issue with this trial or the last one. Did it with one friend and we made up for the people who finished last.
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#24 Posted : Saturday, July 27, 2019 1:23:53 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Azenomei Go to Quoted Post
Maybe it would help if i could see what cars can actually enter the trail.... I see three cars available to join. The Ford raptor 2011, the Bronco and the 6x6 merc. Then i enter and what do i see, lots of other cars that could enter.....???? What are the limitations? How can i find this so i can actually pick and tune a car?


I agree it's annoying but it's just b class off-road for this one. Either way the raptor works easily if you tune it.
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#25 Posted : Saturday, July 27, 2019 2:32:51 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: EnderOfSubris Go to Quoted Post
my B class Wrangler Rubicon makes over 570hp and I modified the tune a little for this event. It's now more stable at speed and in the top 10 of the Coastal Rush Rivals times. Might be the fastest of the bunch driving Manual w/clutch and no aids.


I upgraded a bit of everything, so I didn't have as much PI left to upgrade my Rubicon's engine. However, the Ranger Raptor was entirely a horsepower build.

Originally Posted by: Ripperoo UK Go to Quoted Post
Totally agree! Made my own tune and it blitzed the unbeatable AI.

That's really it. I was able to slingshot up the pack in just about any offroader. My teammates, on the other hand were too busy practicing WWE moves on the drivatars and get left behind. It's definitely easy to find a rubbish team that will hold you back.
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