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#1351 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2019 12:44:20 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Microlegend Go to Quoted Post
I can already tell u what second expansion for forza h 5 will be. BARBIE SPEED CHAMPIONSHIP. Final achievement u marry Ken/Barbie and get the castle for ur home. Can't ait.......

Plz... do not ruin mainland by driving lego cars there.
If i get some real exclusive cars from lego expansion I will probably unlock them, but this makes me sad. Fill mainland with legocars and the game is gameover for me.

RIP lego speed chamionship.

And plz learn from ur mistake. Never ever a stunt like this again...


This made me laugh... thankyou
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#1352 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2019 12:46:41 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Tilo38 Go to Quoted Post

That said, for sure, it’s too late to change my mind on my next console, you have done your move Guys, my money will go to Sony ...

What open-world racing game is there? I have PS4 Pro and current generation is big loss for Xbox from my perspective but at least Forza was the best game here for me. I have some hopes but MS don't have any games. TLOU 2 is on the way and it could be better than all X1 exclusive games combined.

So it depends on MS, if anybody will buy new console without proper Forzas. I hope not and will think about it.
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#1353 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2019 12:48:49 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: LUKE3991 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: MOhlsson Go to Quoted Post
So i played it till i got the barnfind, i thought i give it a go. They want me to collect lego to make a plane wth i can´t use a plane in horizon.

[Mod Edit - profanity and self-censored profanity are not allowed - MM]

Well i´m of to mainland and hope i never see a lego car again.


Good luck with that, the PG/Lego brown nosers will be in the mainland with a lego convoy on purpose.


Dude I wasnt even considering using these cars outside of restricted events but if you people keep this whining up and calling people brown nosers because we're enjoying the expansion and you arent. I will find a lego convoy and I may come find you


Count me in, too. The way theses people are behaving is just downright childish
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#1354 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2019 12:56:41 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DaReoCharmer Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: latotheX Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: SchneeKobra9233 Go to Quoted Post
So when will we reach online petition level which demands a respond from the dev's and o roadmap for the real part of the game ???


Never. What makes you think you can "demand" anything from anybody?


I was thinking the exact same thing. The outrage culture of today is so damn annoying. You people spent your money months ago, just as I did. Its gone, no one is giving you a refund, be an adult about it. All this bickering and whining over 20 bux. 20 BUCKS! Most people can spend that much on food. You guys are in here are behaving like you were robbed of hundreds. For FH5 just dont buy the ultimate if you're that upset about it. I still will purchase it because I enjoy the game for what it is, not for what I WANT IT TO BE.



𝘿𝙞𝙣𝙜, 𝙙𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙙𝙞𝙣𝙜!!!

WE HAVE A WINNER! 👍


The game is what it is and that is FORZA... not LEGO

Also who are you to dictate how much '20 bucks' should mean to someone? If we think we have been sold short we have every right to challenge





Are you gonna ask for a refund sir? Okay and so I dont dictate how much 20 bucks means to those with gripes. What does the 20 bucks mean to you sir?
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#1355 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2019 1:03:32 PM(UTC)
I honestly don’t get the criticism about only 3 new cars considering we’ve been getting about one free new car per week for the past however many months.

Would y’all have preferred no free cars each week, and instead waiting six months to get them all in a paid expansion?

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#1356 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2019 1:10:31 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: ForbiddenBeef21 Go to Quoted Post
I honestly don’t get the criticism about only 3 new cars considering we’ve been getting about one free car per week for the past however many months.

Would y’all have preferred no free cars each week, and instead waiting six months to get them all in a paid expansion?

I don't care about new cars at all, it's enough for me already. But Lego "cars" are something new in Lego world. OK, we don't have Lego world but normal Forza with some Lego stuff around. But still what DLC has 3 cars? :D Maybe HW has 4? I don't remember it but for Lego "cars" it's better for advertisement to have as many as possible. Maybe no time.

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HW
10 new cars:
1972 Chrysler VH Valiant Charger R/T E49
2005 Hot Wheels Ford Mustang
2011 Hot Wheels Bone Shaker
2012 Hot Wheels Rip Rod
1969 Hot Wheels Twin Mill
2016 Jeep Trailcat
2010 Pagani Zonda R
2007 Toyota Hilux Arctic Trucks AT38
2016 Zenvo ST1
1932 Ford De Luxe Five-Window Coupe (Barn Find)

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#1357 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2019 1:17:17 PM(UTC)
OMG, does Playground think Horizon fans are children? First Hot wheels, now Lego. Honestly, this is a disgrace. So glad I didn't buy ultimate. Hope I don't see these toys on the mainland.
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#1358 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2019 1:36:06 PM(UTC)
I gotta be real here. This expansion turned out to be quite fun. I would prefer that it didn't leak into the mainland, but that doesn't bother me that much. One good thing we got out of it was an update to the Ferrari F40 ( all 3 types ) audio that was much needed. It feels much more aggressive and immersive in cockpit view now. And I might be trippin, but do the cars feel faster now?
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#1359 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2019 1:37:07 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: NotSoAn0nym0us Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: DaReoCharmer Go to Quoted Post
Dude I wasnt even considering using these cars outside of restricted events but if you people keep this whining up and calling people brown nosers because we're enjoying the expansion and you arent. I will find a lego convoy and I may come find you


Count me in. These people making a big deal out of an UPDATE to a VIDEOGAME are hilarious.


Count me in, I find it funny that people are having a stroke because their realistic (hundreds of 1000hp lambos jumping all over the place) world is totally over if they see one lego car.

People who derive enjoyment from being an annoyance to others... PG, are these the amazing social experiences I'm (air quotes) "missing out on"?
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#1360 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2019 1:46:02 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: SheepXKiller Go to Quoted Post


And the Xbox store has review bombed the expansion.



Store

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#1361 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2019 2:09:59 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: grolschie Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: SheepXKiller Go to Quoted Post


And the Xbox store has review bombed the expansion.



Store


Sounds that you are not all using the same source, what I see on Xbox site is more of a split.


Variable depending on countries but still split.

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#1362 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2019 2:18:13 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: latotheX Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: DaReoCharmer Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: LUKE3991 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: MOhlsson Go to Quoted Post
So i played it till i got the barnfind, i thought i give it a go. They want me to collect lego to make a plane wth i can´t use a plane in horizon.

[Mod Edit - profanity and self-censored profanity are not allowed - MM]

Well i´m of to mainland and hope i never see a lego car again.


Good luck with that, the PG/Lego brown nosers will be in the mainland with a lego convoy on purpose.


Dude I wasnt even considering using these cars outside of restricted events but if you people keep this whining up and calling people brown nosers because we're enjoying the expansion and you arent. I will find a lego convoy and I may come find you


Count me in, too. The way theses people are behaving is just downright childish


Anybody playing with Lego is not worthy of calling others childish.

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#1363 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2019 2:42:54 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: ThanaJ Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: NotSoAn0nym0us Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: DaReoCharmer Go to Quoted Post
Dude I wasnt even considering using these cars outside of restricted events but if you people keep this whining up and calling people brown nosers because we're enjoying the expansion and you arent. I will find a lego convoy and I may come find you


Count me in. These people making a big deal out of an UPDATE to a VIDEOGAME are hilarious.


Count me in, I find it funny that people are having a stroke because their realistic (hundreds of 1000hp lambos jumping all over the place) world is totally over if they see one lego car.

People who derive enjoyment from being an annoyance to others... PG, are these the amazing social experiences I'm (air quotes) "missing out on"?


Illegal use of air quotes.
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#1364 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2019 2:56:33 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: LUKE3991 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: latotheX Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: DaReoCharmer Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: LUKE3991 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: MOhlsson Go to Quoted Post
So i played it till i got the barnfind, i thought i give it a go. They want me to collect lego to make a plane wth i can´t use a plane in horizon.

[Mod Edit - profanity and self-censored profanity are not allowed - MM]

Well i´m of to mainland and hope i never see a lego car again.


Good luck with that, the PG/Lego brown nosers will be in the mainland with a lego convoy on purpose.


Dude I wasnt even considering using these cars outside of restricted events but if you people keep this whining up and calling people brown nosers because we're enjoying the expansion and you arent. I will find a lego convoy and I may come find you


Count me in, too. The way theses people are behaving is just downright childish


Anybody playing with Lego is not worthy of calling others childish.



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#1365 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2019 3:37:11 PM(UTC)
Whilst I wasn't looking forward to playing this, I did use to like Lego about 40 years ago as a kid. I entered it with a positive mindset. But I'm sorry, its just awful. It just doesn't feel or look good to me. It all feels out of place. I did try!

However I do respect the handling of the cars in a Lego sort of way and there's clearly some technical greatness behind the scenes. It just comes across bland and out of sink with the rest of the game. For me I think Lego should stay where its sits fondly. In my childhood memories.

EDIT: Also, from a purely gameplay perspective, I just dont get who would find doing all the mundane tasks for Lego bricks fun. For those who enjoy doing them, great. But, geez, it all came across as shallow and chore like for me. Its almost like the car version of a join the dots kids drawing book.

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#1366 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2019 3:54:45 PM(UTC)
Man, the shills are really out in force today. I love how the few who like the expansion are busy telling everyone else with a differing opinion that they aren't allowed to dislike it. I can't recall anyone who didn't like the Lego garbage telling people who did enjoy it that they aren't allowed to enjoy it.



And a quick update on my saga trying to avoid the update, now today I can't actually load up the game without getting this message... "We’re updating Forza Horizon 4. It should be ready to use again shortly.". When it tries to update the game it stalls at 47mb. Then if I cancel it tells me I have to reinstall the game, but I can't install it because of its using 80gb of my hard drive and now I only have 50 left and doesn't take into account uninstalling the game. And then if I try to just straight up uninstall nothing happens. So that's great. If you pause one download it causes all sorts of issues.

Does anyone know how I can manually uninstall Horizon to attempt a reinstall? This is the kind of garbage that will just make me move on to another game for good.

A quick update that no one asked for, Horizon magically uninstalled, so attempting a reinstall now.

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#1367 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2019 3:57:52 PM(UTC)
Now that we got the legos out of the way, here's a few things that would improve this game in two areas.

Depth

1. Redesign the car mastery system. As I've mentioned before it's so easy and boring people are looking for a button to unlock all perks at once. That’s not a good sign and it’s happening because points gained driving any car can be used to unlock perks of any other. "Car mastery" doesn't exist, it's a misnomer. Nobody cares about the perks except credits and wheelspins. If anything, cars with fewer perks get even less attention. An actual car mastery system based on getting certain event stars and winning certain races in certain classes and difficulties with the same car would add depth and encourage more gameplay across the entire garage.

2. Improve the skill system. Being rewarded for more specific instances of driving regardless if you win or lose a race is a really good concept. But the current design is so easy and frequent that nobody cares about this either unless there's a chore to do or they're grinding a hacky blueprint for wheelspins and credits. Introduce more skills and make them more unique across cars and car types to make it more interesting to drive certain cars over others. At a minimum, skill points earned in a car should apply to that car only.

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Speaking of car mastery and skill points, some kind of worthwhile content needs to be locked behind these systems to cap them off. New finale marathon events (on par with Goliath, etc) for mastering a certain number of cars of a certain type and/or manufacturer (master 5 ferraris to unlock a special marathon ferrari event, for example) would be great, even with the current mastery and skill systems in place.

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3. Rivals. I know class-based is coming. If this is done well, it will add more substance to the core game than both expansions combined.

Excitement

4. Cinematic sequences. Either more showcase events, or add cinematic elements to the existing races. Lightning striking a tree, flying saucers crashing across the track, airplanes taking off over your head… More, please. In every race, the seasonal championships, maybe it's a summer thing, maybe they change with the seasons—somewhere, anywhere.

5. More cars. Personally, I don't get that excited about most of the new cars, but I would if there was more rewarding content and depth to the game at the car level.

6. Earn car parts. Immediately after getting a new car, upgrading it is an exercise of flying through each section selecting the far right option. Classes help offer some build strategy but it’s not enough and still too accessible. Everyone — and I mean everyone — would be excited to get car parts in wheelspins instead of clothing. Or require upgrades to be unlocked through car mastery. Make people earn their AWD conversions.

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Essentially, each car should have it’s own achievement list to unlock parts, and to unlock special marathon events after mastering a number of cars of the same type.

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#1368 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2019 4:02:29 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: latotheX Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: LUKE3991 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: latotheX Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: DaReoCharmer Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: LUKE3991 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: MOhlsson Go to Quoted Post
So i played it till i got the barnfind, i thought i give it a go. They want me to collect lego to make a plane wth i can´t use a plane in horizon.

[Mod Edit - profanity and self-censored profanity are not allowed - MM]

Well i´m of to mainland and hope i never see a lego car again.


Good luck with that, the PG/Lego brown nosers will be in the mainland with a lego convoy on purpose.


Dude I wasnt even considering using these cars outside of restricted events but if you people keep this whining up and calling people brown nosers because we're enjoying the expansion and you arent. I will find a lego convoy and I may come find you


Count me in, too. The way theses people are behaving is just downright childish


Anybody playing with Lego is not worthy of calling others childish.



Cute


On the nose. And the response to childishness is to convoy up and troll people? Juvenile.

This francise has saved me a lot of money in real world tires, and I'll probably use what parts of the game I still like going foward, like maybe using random cars in rivals, but this franchise has lost me, I won't be onboard for FH5, and I'm pretty surprised by how cool a lot of people are with the new direction. The Peel P50 just seemed to slide on by, too. There's been a trend. Add this vibe ... being an adult, I shouldn't give it a name ... and it's time for me to bid you all farewell.
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#1369 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2019 4:04:36 PM(UTC)
I just finished it and I actually enjoyed it.
But I'm still convinced that it was a wrong decision to make the Lego cars also available in the main game, it just doesn't mix.

The biggest flaw is the lack of the barnfind car, I can't see a reason to keep the players waiting for a future content update so see it.
I mean they only added 3 new cars, and didn't even manage to complete the 4th one on time? That's just odd.
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#1370 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2019 4:15:15 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: LUKE3991 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Mr Vyppaaaa Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: SoloTwo42 Go to Quoted Post
Well, yesterday I successfully avoided the Lego plague and prevented Horizon from updating. Today the game won't open unless I reinstall the entire game or install the update, so that's great. At least I got all the weekly stuff done last night. Tonight when I'm home we'll see how badly lego cancer infected the non-lego world.


Could you over react any harder? If you don't want to play Lego Valley, to go to Lego Valley. Your loss. the oval track is super fun.


Notice the part where he said "non Lego world".


And? The Non Lego world is completely unaffected by this expansion. He might see a Lego car from time to time but beyond that it isn't going to be "infect he non-lego world"
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#1371 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2019 4:17:05 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: latotheX Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: LUKE3991 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: latotheX Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: DaReoCharmer Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: LUKE3991 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: MOhlsson Go to Quoted Post
So i played it till i got the barnfind, i thought i give it a go. They want me to collect lego to make a plane wth i can´t use a plane in horizon.

[Mod Edit - profanity and self-censored profanity are not allowed - MM]

Well i´m of to mainland and hope i never see a lego car again.


Good luck with that, the PG/Lego brown nosers will be in the mainland with a lego convoy on purpose.


Dude I wasnt even considering using these cars outside of restricted events but if you people keep this whining up and calling people brown nosers because we're enjoying the expansion and you arent. I will find a lego convoy and I may come find you


Count me in, too. The way theses people are behaving is just downright childish


Anybody playing with Lego is not worthy of calling others childish.



Cute


We need to make a lego convoy group on xbox so we can always join up to cruise lobbies in Brickmobiles
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#1372 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2019 4:19:08 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: HixBot Go to Quoted Post
OMG, does Playground think Horizon fans are children? First Hot wheels, now Lego. Honestly, this is a disgrace. So glad I didn't buy ultimate. Hope I don't see these toys on the mainland.


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#1373 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2019 4:21:52 PM(UTC)
So I have already completed every single brick there is on the expansion but the Barn find was a Prototype which I picked up last night, but I have not heard of it delivered and it is not in my garage. Is this some weird glitch, or is there going to be a different Barn find for each season to put the thing together? I don't think I have ever had a barn car take this long to complete.

On a side note, I can try and help anyone with their brick challenge if I can remember. The smashing ones were the most difficult since it doesn't tell you exactly where to smash the items, or the location, but a fair amount of them are in the "city"


***Edit*** For the Barn find, you will see a message that pops up saying "This Barn Find is not ready to be restored as the instructions haven't been found! Please wait for a future Forza Horizon 4 Content Update which will allow Jay to finish the car.

I guess this means that there will possibly be more added to the Lego Valley.

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#1374 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2019 4:22:41 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: SheepXKiller Go to Quoted Post

3 Lego cars is a bit of a joke considering they’re already in the game as the real thing..


That is the most disappointing thing for me, 3 cars is a big let down
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#1375 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2019 4:30:56 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: ForbiddenBeef21 Go to Quoted Post
I honestly don’t get the criticism about only 3 new cars considering we’ve been getting about one free car per week for the past however many months.

Would y’all have preferred no free cars each week, and instead waiting six months to get them all in a paid expansion?

I don't care about new cars at all, it's enough for me already. But Lego "cars" are something new in Lego world. OK, we don't have Lego world but normal Forza with some Lego stuff around. But still what DLC has 3 cars? :D Maybe HW has 4? I don't remember it but for Lego "cars" it's better for advertisement to have as many as possible. Maybe no time.

edit:
HW
10 new cars:
1972 Chrysler VH Valiant Charger R/T E49
2005 Hot Wheels Ford Mustang
2011 Hot Wheels Bone Shaker
2012 Hot Wheels Rip Rod
1969 Hot Wheels Twin Mill
2016 Jeep Trailcat
2010 Pagani Zonda R
2007 Toyota Hilux Arctic Trucks AT38
2016 Zenvo ST1
1932 Ford De Luxe Five-Window Coupe (Barn Find)


I did purchase the Hot wheels expansion, for these 2 cars.
I never played the expansion any longer than I had to to get the barnfind. It went too far against why I bought the game.

* point is sales is not always an accurate way to gauge if the players actually enjoy it.
* neither is a prepaid bundled expansion

The Lego expansion is the same, I hate the concept, it goes against the grain BUT i will buy it if they add something like the HK Monaro from MS7 or the other MS7 Hotwheels cars that FH4 missed out on (VW, Camaro & Vette)

Just a side note, although the Hotwheels expansion sold like crazy in the time I was there most people drove their regular cars on the track, to even see a Hotwheels car in freeroam was rare.
This shows most people favored the realistic cars regardless of buying the expansion and just had fun on the new map.

I believe once the Lego hype dies down people will stop driving them as for most it isn't the reason they are here.
The game could recover in time as long as the Lego cars do not have a power advantage over the realistic ones - if that happens again like it did with the boneshaker multiplayer racing will never be a happy place - not that it really was a happy place anyway.






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