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Yeah understeer doesn't bother me that much at this point. I got the hang of it the most part, it's just mainly you have to be more "on it". There's only one car that I can't handle the understeer & that's the Mitsubishi GTO. Seems to be great in everything for S1 besides that knockback.

Of course i wouldnt want understeer, but on most cars it no longer bothers. I just have to be more cautious & attentive.



I jist got my first Boneshaker today about two hours agp from the Plauground event. My M5 is faster than the highest HP A Class Bone Shaker tune that i saw & downloaded by 4/5 seconds in the Festival Drag Strip. The Bone Shaker hits it about 130/131mph while my M5 hits it at 134/135mph. Heres a video:

https://1drv.ms/v/s!AoNgSK_W84IXb_SO5dP1WQT0Eug

As you can see, both the M5 & None starting their wheel at the line, my M5 pulls harder & hits the trap faster. I did it about 5 time each & my M5 would hit either 134 or 135 on the trap while the Bone hits it at either 130 & 131, with that downloaded tune. That's a significant difference of MPH with my time & that user's tune.

If you look at the video I posted earlier in this thread, you can see when the road is straight that my M5 pulls past just about everyone easily. There's no skill in straight lines, besides who can pull & climb the fastest. I do usually lose a bit of lead with a Bone Shaker when it comes to turns like how you mentioned, but as long as I don't crash or do a unnecessary drift it's not a big to where it's impossible to catch up pretty fine. Same with Daytonas, as you mentioned. Although Daytona can keep up with me more in terms of pure speed.

Handling is not that big of a deal when it come to Class A as long as you have the speed to make up for it & as long as you don't screw a turn up. Speed & patience.

Now that I've spent some time with the Shaker myself, it's not taste than my M5 in terms of Acceleration, HP or Top Speed, but it does have my M5 beaten in grip & handling. The Bone Shaker has amazing brake & turn speed compared to other Class A's, but you should be able to keep up with as long as you do well with turns your self & have the speed to match. If I screw up in a race against a skillful player, I have more of a chance to lose, if i hit all or almost everything correctly against a skillful player, then I have a chance of winning. Thats what these races in my M5 come down too, & why it's a "destroyer" since it can actually have the chance to win now.

I'm going to do my own tune with the Bone Shaker as well & see if I can create a tune even better than the one I downloaded. And I do appreciate yours & others shared tips & experience in this thread too.

"git gud".

I don't like it Live, when they give it me Free I try to turn it off.

I guess right that you will beat my time, and there is definetly difference what tunes best in some tracks, that's why i pick my rally tune allways in online, it can handle every weather and surface and do better in freeroam rushes than those other tunes.

I have 3 bone shakers now, i was smart enough buy two of them when they was on forzathon shop.

ALL AWD are overpowered on Horizon games and Playground Games never fixed this why you think Playground Games will fix one single car because this single overpowered car is more overpowered than anothers overpowered cars?

Whyis that? Many vehicles come in AWD right out of the box. AWD is great in the rain, which is 99% of the races as well.

I have 2 now, I was lucky to get another one in the auction house earlier. I will try and get another one I guess. Never be a better time than this week (unless they ever put it in the shop again).

The Bone-Shaker was in the Shop?

If I remember correctly its first appearance was in the Forzathon shop. And it had its own seasonal event (Halloween themed).

On a side note: Did anyone try the Skyline R34 on A? Made the typical build (V8, zentrifugal supercharger, front&rear aero, stock front tires/widest rear tires) and it was only ~ 1 second slower on Lakehurst than the Insignia. On my track is was basically identical to the Insignia (0.023 seconds faster). Could be more to yours likings because it's more stable than the Insignia and accelerates faster. Doesn't have the same cornering speed though.

You remember right.

R34 is one of the best a-class cars, there is just something that i car i found myself being faster on other good cars. On that same topic do you know any reason why that V8 gets so mutch better stats than many other engine setup, same goes that bmw 3.2l engine.

The stats (weight, power & torgue) aren't THAT much better than the ones other engines have. It's the power curve in combination with manual shifting (redlining the hell out of the engine) which makes it superior. It reaches its peaks right before the redline and the centrifugal supercharger multiplies this advantage.
I guess the PI system doesn't rate the power curve, only the raw stats. A reason why the F50 GT engine is also strong.
I made the Evo VIII with stock engine and supercharged V8. Rest was identical. Lap time difference: 6-7 seconds on my track.

Whyis that? Many vehicles come in AWD right out of the box. AWD is great in the rain, which is 99% of the races as well.

On a side note: Did anyone try the Skyline R34 on A? Made the typical build (V8, zentrifugal supercharger, front&rear aero, stock front tires/widest rear tires) and it was only ~ 1 second slower on Lakehurst than the Insignia. On my track is was basically identical to the Insignia (0.023 seconds faster). Could be more to yours likings because it's more stable than the Insignia and accelerates faster. Doesn't have the same cornering speed though.

It sure was, thats why so many people have it and use them so frequently. Now I have 2 that i'm keeping lol, I dont wanna see anymore rooms FULL of those damned things

Is that the 2002? I've tried some tunes in the past and never got under 3:20. I just tried my own tune based around what you said above, with a couple of variations, and still didn't get under 3:20. The RS4 just seems much better for me.

I just looked at the stats, and I can't explain why the RS4 is so much faster (2.5 secs faster for these two builds):

Weight: 2002 GT-R 3019lb, RS4 2983lb
Power: 2002 GT-R 548hp, RS4 506hp
Lateral Gs: 2002 GT-R 0.96/1.02, RS4 0.96/1.02

So the RS4 has less power, a lower power to weight ratio, and the same lateral Gs, but I find it much faster.

The Bone Shaker is utterly broken in A class (especially A Dirt). If you don't think it is then you're either not very good, race against bad players, have a bad tune, or all the above. There are a FEW high speed road/street races where you can beat a good player using one, but that's it. Sure, I'll beat plenty of red/blue ranks using them. But anyone around my level, forget it. Not even remotely close. It's awful because other than that one [Mod Edit - Abbreviated profanity, profanity and profanity that is disguised but still alludes to the words are not permitted - D], A class is extremely competitive. It destroys the entire class.

Please recommend tunes for A class road and dirt then... maybe there are better ones than the ones I've been using.

I don't think anyone has argued it isn't better, just that it isn't light years better. I think that's been borne out by some of the users here who have done extensive lap time testing in different cars and there hasn't been much difference on several tracks.