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#401 Posted : Friday, August 9, 2019 12:48:59 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: ClawedScroll554 Go to Quoted Post

I'm not too sure who you are referring to regarding Community Manager (just to confirm, are you potentially referring to the Turn10 community manager or are you referring to another member of PG?) as the Community team here at the PG studio is just myself.


Yes, Mechberg is the Community Manager for Turn10. He's a great source for information. (I just weren't sure if you had spoken to someone from PG so I can ensure I was aware of all feedback etc)

Originally Posted by: ClawedScroll554 Go to Quoted Post

..Well managed FAQ should cover lot's of social media, it's just that these official forums would be the source.

I'll look into it. My main issue is back to the problem of information being over a variety of social medias.
Not everyone comes to the forums. These forums actually cover quite a small amount of the playerbase and we want to make as many players aware as possible on a digital media form.

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#402 Posted : Friday, August 9, 2019 12:57:24 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: RetroKrystal Go to Quoted Post
we want to make as many players aware as possible on a digital media form.


The best way is to do so is to put the information in the game. Only people who aren't playing it are not reached by it.

Edited by user Friday, August 9, 2019 12:58:00 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#403 Posted : Friday, August 9, 2019 1:48:50 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: BabySeal363 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: RetroKrystal Go to Quoted Post
we want to make as many players aware as possible on a digital media form.


The best way is to do so is to put the information in the game. Only people who aren't playing it are not reached by it.


Yep may as well use the ingame message centre
That's what it's there for 🤗
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#404 Posted : Friday, August 9, 2019 2:22:42 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: RetroKrystal Go to Quoted Post
[quote=ClawedScroll554;1119017]
I'll look into it. My main issue is back to the problem of information being over a variety of social medias.
Not everyone comes to the forums. These forums actually cover quite a small amount of the playerbase and we want to make as many players aware as possible on a digital media form.



Perhaps if the forum had adequate bandwidth, then more people would come here.

It's a nightmare trying to browse this forum. Pages regularly take about thirty seconds to load. For A Microsoft company, in 2019, there is simply no excuse for this. It's almost as if you're intentionally creating a hostile environment.

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#405 Posted : Friday, August 9, 2019 2:24:20 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: RetroKrystal Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Ti Hsien Go to Quoted Post
Streams are an annoying way to get information. I only catch useful info from them if it filters onto the board in a few useful seconds of reading rather than untold minutes of video blither.

What would you advise instead?


A newsletter players can subscribe to?

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#406 Posted : Friday, August 9, 2019 2:32:23 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: audiodrifter Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: RetroKrystal Go to Quoted Post
[quote=ClawedScroll554;1119017]
I'll look into it. My main issue is back to the problem of information being over a variety of social medias.
Not everyone comes to the forums. These forums actually cover quite a small amount of the playerbase and we want to make as many players aware as possible on a digital media form.



Perhaps if the forum had adequate bandwidth, then more people would come here.

It's a nightmare trying to browse this forum. Pages regularly take about thirty seconds to load. For A Microsoft company, in 2019, there is simply no excuse for this. It's almost as if you're intentionally creating a hostile environment.



That might not be a forum issue but personal internet issue
Mine rarely takes that long and that's when in a poor service area on my phone..usually within 10 seconds
Whilst it isnt the quickest forum you might want to check your internet service

Edited by user Saturday, August 10, 2019 2:44:06 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#407 Posted : Friday, August 9, 2019 8:50:55 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: talby71 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: audiodrifter Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: RetroKrystal Go to Quoted Post
[quote=ClawedScroll554;1119017]
I'll look into it. My main issue is back to the problem of information being over a variety of social medias.
Not everyone comes to the forums. These forums actually cover quite a small amount of the playerbase and we want to make as many players aware as possible on a digital media form.



Perhaps if the forum had adequate bandwidth, then more people would come here.

It's a nightmare trying to browse this forum. Pages regularly take about thirty seconds to load. For A Microsoft company, in 2019, there is simply no excuse for this. It's almost as if you're intentionally creating a hostile environment.



That might not be a forum issue but personal internet issue
Mine rarely takes that long and that's when in a poor service area on my phone..usually within 10 seconds
Whilst it isnt the quickest forum you might want to check your internet service


There is something not right with this forum and it’s been like that for years. I have the same issues at work, home, mobile, wherever. Sometimes it’s fine but more often then not it takes way longer then it should. I usually go through and load up a few posts I want to read in new tabs so I have one ready to go when I finish the previous one.

I’m not talking like minutes but it shouldn’t take more then 5 seconds to load a basic pages like these on a regular basis.

Edited by user Friday, August 9, 2019 8:56:48 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#408 Posted : Saturday, August 10, 2019 12:45:16 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: talby71 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: audiodrifter Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: RetroKrystal Go to Quoted Post
[quote=ClawedScroll554;1119017]
I'll look into it. My main issue is back to the problem of information being over a variety of social medias.
Not everyone comes to the forums. These forums actually cover quite a small amount of the playerbase and we want to make as many players aware as possible on a digital media form.



Perhaps if the forum had adequate bandwidth, then more people would come here.

It's a nightmare trying to browse this forum. Pages regularly take about thirty seconds to load. For A Microsoft company, in 2019, there is simply no excuse for this. It's almost as if you're intentionally creating a hostile environment.



That might not be a forum issue but personal internet issue
Mine rarely takes that long and that's when in a poor service area on my phone..usually within 10 seconds
Whilst it isnt the quickest forum you might want to check your internet service


No, these forums are the slowest probably on the whole internet. I've never come across such slow forums before.
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#409 Posted : Saturday, August 10, 2019 2:43:05 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: talby71 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: audiodrifter Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: RetroKrystal Go to Quoted Post
[quote=ClawedScroll554;1119017]
I'll look into it. My main issue is back to the problem of information being over a variety of social medias.
Not everyone comes to the forums. These forums actually cover quite a small amount of the playerbase and we want to make as many players aware as possible on a digital media form.



Perhaps if the forum had adequate bandwidth, then more people would come here.

It's a nightmare trying to browse this forum. Pages regularly take about thirty seconds to load. For A Microsoft company, in 2019, there is simply no excuse for this. It's almost as if you're intentionally creating a hostile environment.



That might not be a forum issue but personal internet issue
Mine rarely takes that long and that's when in a poor service area on my phone..usually within 10 seconds
Whilst it isnt the quickest forum you might want to check your internet service


Um, no.

https://www.youtube.com/...pV&index=2&t=0s

DIAG Solutions Log Item#28
Game: ALL
Category: BUG
Priority: HIGH
Date Logged: 21 July 2019
Owner: AUDIODRIFTER

Description:
Many drivers complain of pages regularly taking an age to load. An example of one of the more annoying, ancient, forum bugs, is the fact that the 'Go to first unread post' button rarely ever works.

Impact:
The slow speed is exacerbated by the need to almost always skip forward a couple of pages to read new posts. This contributes, along with a policy of aloof and sometimes heavy-handed moderation, to the atmosphere of a deliberately hostile environment.


Steps to Recreate / Additional Information:
We designed a series of tests in order to measure the relative speeds of Forzamotorsport.net, the Forza franchise's official forum, and GT Planet, an unaffiliated site for enthusiasts of a wide array of racing games.This community has an active, largely positive, Forza fan base.


Test Results:
The results of our tests were striking, with GT Planet's pages generally loading instantly.
Forzamotorsport.net tested extremely sluggish in comparison, with many pages taking several seconds to load.

In addition, our tests indicate a discrepancy between the speed of the official forum and the support site, even though both sites currently reside on the same domain.

We conducted a total of sixteen tests, four every six hours over a 24-hour period, using IE, Edge, Chrome & Firefox.

Each test was conducted with Flashcontrol* and ublock origin enabled, so as to avoid skewing the test results by outside factors such as slow ad servers, etc.

*Flashcontrol is unavailable on IE & MS Edge.


Notes:
Our tests clearly indicate inadequate bandwidth. According to users, this has been the status quo for years, and gives rise to the impression that the developers do not really want people hanging around the forums, reporting or reading about bugs.

Nor does it reflect well, generally, on a major technology company such as Microsoft, that they would have such a slow user forum.

DIAG Proposal:
Broken window, easy fix. More bandwidth. Immediately.

Estimated completion date: TBA

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#410 Posted : Saturday, August 10, 2019 4:54:47 AM(UTC)
I have posted before that FH4 and these forms are the only things that do not run properly on my computer. What a coincidence. It is definitely not internet service, mine runs plenty fast and again, this forum is the only website I get major lag on.
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#411 Posted : Saturday, August 10, 2019 10:21:05 AM(UTC)
I have problems with very long page load times on these forums as well more often than not. It's not related to my internet as other websites with far more graphical content can load far more quickly.
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#412 Posted : Sunday, August 11, 2019 1:30:02 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: RetroKrystal Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: ClawedScroll554 Go to Quoted Post

I'm not too sure who you are referring to regarding Community Manager (just to confirm, are you potentially referring to the Turn10 community manager or are you referring to another member of PG?) as the Community team here at the PG studio is just myself.


Yes, Mechberg is the Community Manager for Turn10. He's a great source for information. (I just weren't sure if you had spoken to someone from PG so I can ensure I was aware of all feedback etc)

I have taken that you are responsible for Playground Games related discussion. I was bit surprised to see Mechberg to appear on one discussion on this side and that led to me make wrong assumptions about size of your team.

Originally Posted by: ClawedScroll554 Go to Quoted Post

..Well managed FAQ should cover lot's of social media, it's just that these official forums would be the source.

I'll look into it. My main issue is back to the problem of information being over a variety of social medias.
Not everyone comes to the forums. These forums actually cover quite a small amount of the playerbase and we want to make as many players aware as possible on a digital media form.
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I don't find it surprising at all if most of audience is on other media platforms. There's been huge change in the Internet culture during past decade. I guess certain accessibility is one thing of it but I think it's also about adapting to environment, accepting the reality that while we have many means of communication maybe those don't make reaching any sort of consensus any easier. There is opportunity to get information without being active in conversations and that addresses the uncomfortable topic for us being able to stand each others. LOL
They are no doubt great tools for sharing information, in this culture less maintenance, less chaos and possibility to positive domino effect. Infrastructures are maintained by other companies and production/PR side just needed to focus on content is another big plus.

I don't see that platforms we have today and what will come will render forums obsolete. There are different kind of demands and Twitter just doesn't work for input regarding let's say Route Creator feature, because there are sort of many enhancements people wish for it. I don't want to start Route Creator discussion in topic. For another example, say what makes me to return in FH4 it's actually quite many things that make the experience for me. Physics model is fun, the best I have encountered in Horizon games, yet in the spot that makes it far less frustrating than say Motorsport 7. I can do Street Races while listening to music via Spotify, different cars actually have different tricks which makes every car a bit of a discovery, what helps me find them is audio design, there's more to car sounds than engine, there's whole soundscape but tyre noise is very important. It's actually quite brilliant how well and how much tyre sound can tell about limits of the grip even if I'm listening to music. So new physics added a bit of learning curve, but in the end it made better game because someone in PG understood that there is more to this sort of game than visual ques and audio feedback helps with the learning curve. There are only so many Street Races so I do custom races every now and then. So lot of things contribute towards experience I feel is relaxing and other layer of information is that there are really many ways to play this game, and I don't believe there is any better or worse in that, just that some customers actually take different opportunities. In Twitter I could practically say that this is or that is great but I can't really explain the context. It just isn't build for that, but sometimes context matter.

Forums gives opportunity to explore features and exchange information with other players in depth. There is Reddit but things happen there with a bit different speed, it's great resource for Custom Routes but that's about it for me. There is also that these are the official forums and we have certain security that people here appearing in their work role, actually are who they say they are and that lot of things discussed here like Rivals mode, more lobbies, Top Gear story wasn't another Drift Club. Somehow these things came to be game features and maybe some other input might have influenced certain decisions.

It's a pity that developer diaries are on hold something where people working on project could showcase their talent which would contribute towards company image. Would make sense in current trends to create something like that. Meanwhile these forums are here. So I can throw idea what we can't discuss about, like if companies perhaps feeling perhaps a bit uncomfortable with forums turning out be ghost towns and other things that are not perhaps good for image. But I don't think it's always about technology but something akin to post-modern tribalism, like GT-planet which Forza discussion is five guys telling each other how great game FH4 is and then there is weekly car challenge and only two of them actually plays it and in this tribe it's some sort of social thing is that this makes them somehow victorious. And then some may think it's quite hilarious, that there is cycle that is good for those five people and perhaps it's a bit of curious thing but I don't wanna really know these people. LOL

I don't think that's likely scenario for these forums and it's again about these being official forums and opportunity for community liaison being the middleman. For one position there is in corporation side which can actually benefit customers, middleman is that and I hope people would appreciate that inside and outside.
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