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#26 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2018 10:06:43 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: AE100 Sprinter Go to Quoted Post
Well obviously the game wont give you a Koenigsegg as your opponent. The cars selected by AI is mostly based on your car and your car's PI.

Yes but the game has 500+ cars to choose from. It can upgrade slower cars too. There is around 300 cars slower than my A723. Why all opponents use three same cars everytime? There is SEVEN focuses RS in the grid, why?

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#27 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2018 11:20:53 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Aumanil Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: AE100 Sprinter Go to Quoted Post
Well obviously the game wont give you a Koenigsegg as your opponent. The cars selected by AI is mostly based on your car and your car's PI.

Yes but the game has 500+ cars to choose from. It can upgrade slower cars too. There is around 300 cars slower than my A723. Why all opponents use three same cars everytime? There is SEVEN focuses RS in the grid, why?



It's a current "bug" (atleast I hope so) that when the race is set to "everything goes" most of the AI uses Audi TT-S, Ford Focus RS, Charger, Mustang or Raptor. At least once a PI-value is reached on which their stock car can participate. This leads to races on S2 998 with six TT-S, 4 Focus and 2 Mustangs. And since TT-S and Focus are AWD they can be extremely difficult to beat on shorter Sprints.
And it's boring. That's why I'm hoping for a bug and not just bad game design.

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#28 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2018 12:51:33 AM(UTC)
You forget about Pagani Zonda FE :D
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#29 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2018 3:00:34 AM(UTC)
You can choose what you race in,what does it matter what the AI is using?
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#30 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2018 3:29:30 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: alron01 Go to Quoted Post
You can choose what you race in,what does it matter what the AI is using?


Obviously races with more variety in opponents are more interesting to take part in.
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#31 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2018 3:51:54 AM(UTC)
im on a mission to race every car in the game and I never choose the anything goes category. I will either do the class specific genre, or just the manufacturer when making my blueprints, this way the cpu has to select cars similar to mine.
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#32 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2018 4:07:08 AM(UTC)
You can't see them when you're ahead hey.
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#33 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2018 5:04:58 AM(UTC)
I did a blue print once with the David vs Goliath car setting for dirt racing. I was in an A class IH Scout. It tossed in some random small car I don't remember and then 10 Ford Transit Vans. Was silly.
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#34 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2018 5:49:49 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Zeem Frostmaw Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: alron01 Go to Quoted Post
You can choose what you race in,what does it matter what the AI is using?


Obviously races with more variety in opponents are more interesting to take part in.


How so, they're all behind me and my eyes are forward.
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#35 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2018 6:10:02 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: alron01 Go to Quoted Post
You can choose what you race in,what does it matter what the AI is using?


Because is really damn boring to race against same cars all the time. And because those cars are damn broken when ai is using them, like driving s1 class formula drift hsv as fast that i can drive with s998 ferrari f50 gt. And when picking some spesific car type theres still not mutch car variation, like hypercar races there are 8 agera rs or offroad races when ai dont use nothing else than ford raptor.
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#36 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2018 8:01:42 AM(UTC)
All your friends are newbies?
"The core promise of the Nemesis System is the ability to build relationships with your personal allies and enemies in a dynamic open world. We have come to realize that letting players purchase Orcs risked undermining the Nemesis System." (Monolith Studios)
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#37 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2018 8:09:32 AM(UTC)
It could have to do with if that is the cars of that value those other HPL peeps have. I have noticed that my friends lists opponents will use cars from their library with their paints. So if your club all minmax uses those cars or they all have that car which closest matches, that is what you will get?
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#38 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2018 8:14:40 AM(UTC)
Although I understand it really doesn't matter, it is a bit unsettling when running S2 Class on Goliath, my Ferrari 458 Speciale is struggling to keep up with a Ford Transit FE Van.
Sometimes I wrestle with my demons... sometimes, we just snuggle.
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#39 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2018 8:54:39 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: alron01 Go to Quoted Post
You can choose what you race in,what does it matter what the AI is using?

It's killing the mood in the game for me. I roleplay, choose my home, choose my outfit, buy a car to use and race for two days.
What's the point in a game if it's not fun. I loved creating specifig racing in FH3 like 80" Miami Vice or First Econoboxes, Tuned in the hood and now i can't.

Also i use difficulty so it's hard to win the race. What the point of easy win?

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Edited by user Thursday, October 18, 2018 8:55:23 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#40 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2018 8:56:45 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Wh1t3Kn1te Go to Quoted Post
im on a mission to race every car in the game and I never choose the anything goes category. I will either do the class specific genre, or just the manufacturer when making my blueprints, this way the cpu has to select cars similar to mine.

It's still doesn't work since game is choosing duplicates

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#41 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2018 11:58:29 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Tigerus2 Go to Quoted Post
You forget about Pagani Zonda FE :D

Yep Street Races are broken too. It's such an amazing game, except this :(


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#42 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2018 1:29:10 PM(UTC)
I KNOW WHAT GOIN ON!

The game is using most popular cars used by players. So every starter car, FE car, or free car are most popular.
That's why it's broken. People aren't using fav and all cars, they are using free cars or advantage cars like FE zonda

I you choose car one by one without starter cars, FE cars, free cars, barn finds, preorders and rewards car it works fine.

Edited by user Thursday, October 18, 2018 1:30:35 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#43 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2018 1:57:15 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: DarkWolf907505 Go to Quoted Post
Although I understand it really doesn't matter, it is a bit unsettling when running S2 Class on Goliath, my Ferrari 458 Speciale is struggling to keep up with a Ford Transit FE Van.


First time I ran Goliath in my reventon Fe, my best competitor was the Titan Fe 😁
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#44 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2018 3:13:26 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Aumanil Go to Quoted Post
I KNOW WHAT GOIN ON!

The game is using most popular cars used by players. So every starter car, FE car, or free car are most popular.
That's why it's broken. People aren't using fav and all cars, they are using free cars or advantage cars like FE zonda

I you choose car one by one without starter cars, FE cars, free cars, barn finds, preorders and rewards car it works fine.


That's make actually perfect sense. I just tested myself hypercars without agera rs and there is now 6 different cars, well there is still 4 zenvo st1 but when agera rs is available there 7-8 agera rs. But that system works really badly when system buts those focus etc same race against x-class cars.
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#45 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2018 4:53:45 PM(UTC)
I've taken to blueprinting and choosing my opponents. It can make it better, but if I inadvertently choose a popular car to race against I will still get more of that car than anything else.

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#46 Posted : Friday, October 19, 2018 12:31:39 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Aumanil Go to Quoted Post
I KNOW WHAT GOIN ON!

The game is using most popular cars used by players. So every starter car, FE car, or free car are most popular.
That's why it's broken. People aren't using fav and all cars, they are using free cars or advantage cars like FE zonda

I you choose car one by one without starter cars, FE cars, free cars, barn finds, preorders and rewards car it works fine.


That's make actually perfect sense. I just tested myself hypercars without agera rs and there is now 6 different cars, well there is still 4 zenvo st1 but when agera rs is available there 7-8 agera rs. But that system works really badly when system buts those focus etc same race against x-class cars.


Zenvo is free car (given by 10 stars in high speed rentals) so it's infected by this bug. I will try to make the list of infected cars.

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#47 Posted : Sunday, October 21, 2018 2:47:26 AM(UTC)
Here is the WORK IN PROGRESS list of infected cars that will brake there variety in races. To have proper variety (one/two cars per race) don't choose this car in custom blueprint:

All starter Cars
Focus RS (very broken)
Audi TT (very broken)
Old Charger (very broken)

All dirt and 4x4 starter cars
Ford Crosworth (very broken)
Lancia (very broken)
Subaru Impreza (very broken)
Dodge RAM (very broken)
VW buggie (very broken)
Land Rover (new one) (very broken)

All Forza Edition cars:
Ford VAN Forza Edition (very broken)
Zonda R Forza Edition (very broken)
Titan Forza Edition (very broken)
2007 Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione Forza Edition
2017 Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio Forza Edition
2015 Alumi Craft Class 10 Race Car Forza Edition
2016 Aston Martin Vulcan Forza Edition
2013 Bentley Continental GT Speed Forza Edition
2013 BMW M6 Coupe Forza Edition
1969 Chevrolet Nova Super Sport 396 Forza Edition
1972 Land Rover Series III Forza Edition
1963 Volkswagen Type 2 De Luxe Forza Edition
1988 BMW M5 Forza Edition
2013 Caterham Superlight R500 Forza Edition
1972 Ford Falcon XA GT- **** Forza Edition (Censored by this site for some reason)
2012 Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4 Forza Edition
1980 Renault 5 Turbo Forza Edition
2010 Renault Clio R.S. Forza Edition
Peugeot 205 T16 Forza Edition
Lamborghini Reventon Forza Edition: Found in Lamborghini Miura P400 skill tree
Maserati MC12 Forza Edition: Found in Maserati 300S skill tree
Mercedes-Benz SL 65 AMG Black Series Forza Edition: Found in Mercedes-Benz 300 SL Coupe skill tree
Nissan Nismo GT-R LM Forza Edition: Found in Nissan R390 skill tree
TVR Sagaris Forza Edition: Found in TVR Sagaris skill tree

All Barn Finds
Aston Martin DB4 GT Zagato (Autumn Exclusive)
Audi Sport quattro (very broken)
Bentley 4-1/2 Litre Supercharged (Barn Find Rumour: Purchase Bamburgh Castle)
Ford Escort RS Turbo (very broken)
Ford GT40 Mk I (Spring Exclusive) (very broken)
Jaguar E-type S1 (very broken)
Jaguar XJ220 (very broken)
Land Rover Range Rover '73 (Winter Exclusive) (very broken)
Lotus Elise GT1 (very broken)
MG MGB GT (very broken)
Mini Cooper S (very broken)
Peel P50 (Summer Exclusive) (very broken)
Subaru Impreza 22B STi (very broken)
Triumph Spitfire (very broken)
TVR Cerbera Speed 12 (very broken)

Free Reward Cars:
Jeep Trailcat - Cross Country Series level 4
Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk - Cross Country Series level 8
Penhall The Cholla - Cross Country Series level 14
Ford RS200 - Dirt Racing Series level 4
Ram 2500 Power Wagon - Dirt Racing Series level 8
Renault Alpine A110 1600s - Dirt Racing Series level 16
Ford Mustang Boss 302 - Drift Club level 10
Chevrolet Monte Carlo Super Sport - LaRacer @ Horizon level 10
Lamborghini Huracan LP 610-4 - Road Racing Series level 4
Porsche Cayman GTS - Road Racing Series level 8
Jaguar XKR-S GT - Road Racing Series level 16
Noble M600 - Speed Trap Hero level 11
Ariel Atom 500 V8 - Speed Zone Hero level 11
Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec II - Street Scene level 4
Renault Clio Williams - Street Scene level 8
Hoonigan Rauh-Welt Begriff Porsche 911 Turbo - Street Scene level 17
BMW M3 - The Drift Run level 8
Dodge Challenger SRT Demon - The Stunt Driver level 10
Zenvo ST1 - World's Fastest level 10
Ultima Evolution Coupe 1020 - Drag Strip level 4
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#48 Posted : Tuesday, October 23, 2018 10:37:53 AM(UTC)
I've noticed that the AI car selection in blueprints is less varied sometimes than in FH3.

One of the events I've recreated into FH4 from 3 is a military vehicle race. In 3 the AI would be varied. Few Hummers, few Willys, and LM002 or 2, maybe a Land Rover III.

But for whatever reason in 4 it's just always a full field of qwhatever vehicle I'm in.

Might be worth looking into.

Another example is I made a Grand National vs Monte Carlo race. Full field of whichever one I'm in.

Edited by user Tuesday, October 23, 2018 10:40:23 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#49 Posted : Tuesday, October 23, 2018 9:58:13 PM(UTC)
THIS BUG HAS BEEN FIXED WITH 23 OCTOBER UPDATE
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#50 Posted : Wednesday, October 24, 2018 2:21:18 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Aumanil Go to Quoted Post
THIS BUG HAS BEEN FIXED WITH 23 OCTOBER UPDATE


I still experience the bug.
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