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#1 Posted : Friday, October 5, 2018 7:56:15 AM(UTC)
Being a big fan of the horizon series i got a G920 for my One X for FH4.



Now the game is out and i'm so frustrated to find that the cars are impossible to control. Im constantly spinning out, and losing traction / grip with the road surface. Offroad in particular is just impossible to do, even with rally cars. I used to be able to get to top 3 in online, and race against Pro drivatars.



In one instance i spun out to the right, i tried to rewind, and see if i could save it with controller. And what do you know, its was no problem to do with a controller. A simple tap to the left on the stick was enough. So i rewind, and i tried to "tap" the wheel left it would still spin out... no matter what i did the car went to the right. What the hell is happening? At this point i'm just about to give up, as racing with a wheel in this game is just so [Mod Edit - Abbreviated profanity, profanity and profanity that is disguised but still alludes to the words are not permitted - D]. Controller is just fine and pretty much the same as FH2 and 3.



I tried looking for various settings on the web, and none make it any better. I tried going back to FH2 and FH3, and have no issues there.



FYI i race just fine in FH2 and 3, Dirt 4, Dirt Rally, FM7 and Project Cars 1 & 2. As such i have no problem using and controlling with a wheel. How is this game harder than Dirt Rally and FM7?! i also tried with and without Traction - and stability control, and with normal and sim steering



Is this just me or what? Any suggestions?

Edited by user Saturday, October 6, 2018 4:29:30 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#2 Posted : Friday, October 5, 2018 10:55:51 AM(UTC)
I have the same problem playing with fanatec Csl elite. Just starts to slide and is then no way to save the car :(
Using controller feels great so have Played with it since day 2.
But should be more fun with wheel but this bug makes it unplayable
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#3 Posted : Friday, October 5, 2018 10:57:27 AM(UTC)
I have the same problem playing with fanatec Csl elite. Just starts to slide and is then no way to save the car :(
Using controller feels great so have Played with it since day 2.
But should be more fun with wheel but this bug makes it unplayable
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#4 Posted : Friday, October 5, 2018 10:58:42 AM(UTC)
I have the same problem playing with fanatec Csl elite. Just starts to slide and is then no way to save the car :(
Using controller feels great so have Played with it since day 2.
But should be more fun with wheel but this bug makes it unplayable
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#5 Posted : Friday, October 5, 2018 11:31:28 AM(UTC)
Not just you: https://forums.forzamoto...ogitech-G920-Wheel.aspx

I'm patiently awaiting a fix, but afaik, T10/PG has not yet acknowledged the problem.
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#6 Posted : Friday, October 5, 2018 11:32:20 AM(UTC)
It's not just you. I'm having he exact same problem (on PC) with the 920. I didn't really notice it until i tried to do the first offraod introduction and I would spin out feet into the first turn - tried it probably 30 times. Keyboard/gamepad, like you said, needs a little tap and its no problem.

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#7 Posted : Friday, October 5, 2018 12:13:20 PM(UTC)
g920 user here so I share the frustration. Hoping they get it all sorted out but wheel users have never been a big priority.
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#8 Posted : Friday, October 5, 2018 12:43:54 PM(UTC)
same problem also I keep hearing sounds when I change gear with the clutch .
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#9 Posted : Friday, October 5, 2018 2:26:18 PM(UTC)
Same steering problem. To stop the clutch noise shift slower, it's dumb but its better than hearing that horrible noise.
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#10 Posted : Friday, October 5, 2018 4:39:41 PM(UTC)
I’m having the same problem with my thrustmaster tx on Xbox one. I’ve sent a support ticket with no response. Ridiculous.
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#11 Posted : Friday, October 5, 2018 6:23:13 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Morrvas Go to Quoted Post
Same steering problem. To stop the clutch noise shift slower, it's dumb but its better than hearing that horrible noise.


Thats not the problem, the noise comes from passing neutral. No matter how slow or neatly you shift. Even sitting still going through the gearbox give clutch crunch every time you pass neutral. Went back to horizon 2 and 3 today just to check, and yes, horizon 4’s wheel support is broken. Deadzones are just off or not existing and the clutch noise is a bug. Im on a g920 + shifter on xbox btw.

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#12 Posted : Friday, October 5, 2018 7:23:22 PM(UTC)
This game isn’t gonna be for everyone who has a steering wheel setup, you’ll need a lot of practice and patients. The physics of the game make it extremely easy to spin out. You’ll have more control of the vehicle if you play with the pad. The physics in this game would have to be fundamentally changed when playing on a wheel vs gamepad to not ruin the experience on one or the other.

These settings feel a lot better when racing on the pavement but not so much on racing offroad; it's hard to correct the steering when the vehicle spins out when off-roading.
These are my settings. I'm still adjusting them to my liking.

Steering axis deadzone inside: 0
Steering axis deeadzone outside: 100
Steering Linearity: 60
Acceleration axis deadzone inside: 0
Acceleration axis deeadzone outside: 100
Deacceleration axis deadzone inside: 0
Acceleration axis deadzone outside: 100
Clutch Axis deadzone inside: 15
Clutch Axis deadzone outside: 80
E-brake Axis deadzone inside: 10
E-brake Axis deadzone outside: 100
Vibration scale: 0
Force feedback scale: 27
Center spring scale: 0
wheel damper scale: 0
Force feedback understand: 0
Force feedback minimum force: 0
Wheel rotation angle: 270
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#13 Posted : Friday, October 5, 2018 7:26:28 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: VNX999 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Morrvas Go to Quoted Post
Same steering problem. To stop the clutch noise shift slower, it's dumb but its better than hearing that horrible noise.


Thats not the problem, the noise comes from passing neutral. No matter how slow or neatly you shift. Even sitting still going through the gearbox give clutch crunch every time you pass neutral. Went back to horizon 2 and 3 today just to check, and yes, horizon 4’s wheel support is broken. Deadzones are just off or not existing and the clutch noise is a bug. Im on a g920 + shifter on xbox btw.



Yikes, I'm on a Fanatec CSL setup and if I slow down a tiny bit I get no noise at all.
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#14 Posted : Saturday, October 6, 2018 2:19:42 AM(UTC)
G920 and PC here same issues
Hope they can sort the like driving on ice effect, and expand the deadzones, especially the brake.

This beautiful game is kinda on hold for me until you can drive in it !!

Hope we get a patch soon.
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#15 Posted : Saturday, October 6, 2018 5:59:26 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Cesar Cees Go to Quoted Post
This game isn’t gonna be for everyone who has a steering wheel setup, you’ll need a lot of practice and patients. The physics of the game make it extremely easy to spin out. You’ll have more control of the vehicle if you play with the pad. The physics in this game would have to be fundamentally changed when playing on a wheel vs gamepad to not ruin the experience on one or the other.

These settings feel a lot better when racing on the pavement but not so much on racing offroad; it's hard to correct the steering when the vehicle spins out when off-roading.
These are my settings. I'm still adjusting them to my liking.

Steering axis deadzone inside: 0
Steering axis deeadzone outside: 100
Steering Linearity: 60
Acceleration axis deadzone inside: 0
Acceleration axis deeadzone outside: 100
Deacceleration axis deadzone inside: 0
Acceleration axis deadzone outside: 100
Clutch Axis deadzone inside: 15
Clutch Axis deadzone outside: 80
E-brake Axis deadzone inside: 10
E-brake Axis deadzone outside: 100
Vibration scale: 0
Force feedback scale: 27
Center spring scale: 0
wheel damper scale: 0
Force feedback understand: 0
Force feedback minimum force: 0
Wheel rotation angle: 270


I'm running WRA=420 FFU=25 Steering-Linearity=42 the higher I put SL the worse it gets......try lowering yours first.
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#16 Posted : Saturday, October 6, 2018 6:27:33 AM(UTC)
Same.............. Xbox 1s tmx pro............. tried everything ,same result!, getting great points for spinning off into the British countryside though 👍
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#17 Posted : Saturday, October 6, 2018 8:13:23 AM(UTC)
Hey guys,

I don't know if this is the same issue but when I play with my g920, if I turn the wheel right, the wheel returns to center normally, but when I turn left even slightly it spins hard to full lock left . Is this the same issue or does anyone know how to fix this?

thanks
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#18 Posted : Sunday, October 7, 2018 3:53:16 AM(UTC)
I get you guys, I have a TM 458 Spyder (i know its bad but it was cheap) for Xbox one and I use it on my PC, I have these same issues and I used to be a top racer in FH3. Now I've realized any car with more than 600 HP I spin out in the middle of corners and I cannot save it. Until this is fixed or a solution is found, I'd advise playing B-A class Dirt Road Racing series, as the starting Lancia 037 Stradale has become my savior car and it never spins out on me and can keep good power down even mid air.
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#19 Posted : Sunday, October 7, 2018 5:12:06 AM(UTC)
As mentioned in another thread setting "Steering axis deeadzone outside" to lowest value - 20 will make car way more controlable. Additionally custom tunes help a lot. Still its far from perfect and driving on dirt and offroad overall is a pain and its nearly impossible to win with other players using gamepad. Smaller games like 'Dirt' have good steering on wheel and gamepad out of the box, why forza cannot have it?
I hope that there will be patch, Im very dissapointed atm.
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#20 Posted : Sunday, October 7, 2018 5:40:21 AM(UTC)
Very much the same issue here:

PC, G25. The cars are impossible to catch in a slide. And I mean they are impossible. I can drive better in hardcore sims than I can in this.

I can rewind to the point where the car starts to slide, and the car suddenly becomes recoverable just by leaving the wheel centred. So something strange is going on.
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#21 Posted : Sunday, October 7, 2018 7:06:29 AM(UTC)
Seems like it would be a quick fix to make the settings actually go to where they're supposed to. Controller feels great but would rather be using steering wheel. Doesn't feel like you get 100% from the steering, or the clutch and braking pedals.
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#22 Posted : Sunday, October 7, 2018 8:16:23 AM(UTC)
So glad to see that im not the only one. I thought i was going mad, or something was wrong with my wheel.

Im going to try the aforementioned settings tomorrow, but i have not played FH4 since my post, since its just unplayable with a wheel and going back to a controller is just a bummer.

REALLY hope a fix is coming ASAP
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#23 Posted : Sunday, October 7, 2018 10:33:22 AM(UTC)
G920 PC

Ok a small breakthrough !!!!

After a gazillion laps of Tarn Hows Sramble (Dirt) and trying every setup from fine to heavy and back again !! I have found an answer to stop the dancing on ice effect.


Braking has to be set to "Assisted"


Try this and you might actually manage to find yourself placed. I went from the usually 12/12 to finishing 4th on my first attempt.

Set braking to "Assisted" in the difficulty section and ramp up the other assists/difficulties until you find your sweet spot.

A new patch, if we can get one would, be preferred but at least this gets me playing the game :)



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#24 Posted : Tuesday, October 9, 2018 1:15:47 AM(UTC)
so i've tried the settings suggested here, and setting braking to assisted. But i still find it unplayable on dirt, cross country and really anything offroad and S2 class.

Today i also had a moment where i drove trough some water on a cross country race, and i spun out the moment i hit the water no mater what i did with my wheel. But if i rewind and do it with a controller i get trough it just fine, seriously [Mod Edit - Abbreviated profanity, profanity and profanity that is disguised but still alludes to the words are not permitted - D]?!

Im so disappointed in this game, i was looking so much forward to its release, and this is what i get? a game thats uncontrollable with a wheel?

Edited by user Tuesday, October 9, 2018 1:19:46 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#25 Posted : Tuesday, October 9, 2018 2:47:14 AM(UTC)
Really wondering what the problem is. It has happened for both Xbox and Pc users. Its has happened for logitech users Thrustmaster and fanatec users.
But only a small amount of us.
I want this thread on front page Wheels not working in a Car game is a major issue.
I got the game thru gamepass im very happy i didnt buy the game for above reason
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