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#1 Posted : Wednesday, September 12, 2018 1:47:49 PM(UTC)
Forza Horizon 4 on Mixer & Earning Influence

www.forzamotorsport.net/news/fh4_gonegold
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Starting with the launch of the Forza Horizon 4 demo today, players will begin to accrue “Influence” in Forza Horizon 4 when watching the demo being streamed. Influence represents a player’s progression in Forza Horizon 4 and is the core of the game’s “Horizon Life” campaign. No matter how you like to play the game, you’ll be earning Influence as you go – exploring racing, performing stunts, taking photographs, creating (liveries, tunes and Blueprints), and streaming (or viewing) on Mixer.

Once you have earned Influence for viewing a Forza Horizon 4 Mixer stream, you can claim it in the game using the same Xbox Gamertag you used to watch or stream on Mixer. (Note that players must unlock the “Mixer” thread in the Horizon Life campaign to take advantage of Mixer-earned Influence.) Players who stream Forza Horizon 4 on Mixer will earn Influence every two minutes, with a bonus applied for larger audiences.

Remember, you can start earning influence today by watching the Forza Horizon 4 demo and that earned Influence will unlock when you play the full version of Forza Horizon 4. For more information on how to earn influence through Mixer, check out the blog post at www.aka.ms/MixerInfluenceinForza.


https://blog.mixer.com/2018/09/12/watch-stream-and-earn-in-forza-horizon-4-on-mixer/
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You’ll notice a small ribbon badge located near the game title on Mixer, which indicates that the stream is eligible for earning in-game influence.

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Earning influence is easy. All you need to do is link your Microsoft Account (MSA) associated with your Xbox Gamertag to your Mixer Account, log-in, and you’re ready to start earning.


https://support.xbox.com/en-US/mixer/accounts/link-mixer-account-to-microsoft-account

You can find FH4 streams here: https://mixer.com/browse/games/559325/Forza%20Horizon%204

Note: Earning influence from gameplay within the demo does not carry over to the full game; this is about tracking watching/streaming to earn Influence. There are additional ways to earn Influence once the game is released.

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#2 Posted : Wednesday, September 12, 2018 3:31:52 PM(UTC)
Is there a way to check the amount of influence we have earned before the game launches?
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, September 12, 2018 4:28:21 PM(UTC)
Wait...I'm confused. Is the ONLY way to earn influence towards Horizon 4 to WATCH Mixer streams of it? Because that seems......counter productive. As there no encouragement there for actually playing the demo. Which...what? What developer releases a demo and then encourages people NOT to play it? I'm so confused. Seriously, if all the work I'm doing in the demo only gets me a shirt and WATCHING the demo gets me....levels and money and stuff....WHY play the demo?

I mean, what if I stream it on Mixer? Do I earn influence then?

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#4 Posted : Wednesday, September 12, 2018 4:58:19 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: SnogardragonS Go to Quoted Post
Wait...I'm confused. Is the ONLY way to earn influence towards Horizon 4 to WATCH Mixer streams of it? Because that seems......counter productive. As there no encouragement there for actually playing the demo. Which...what? What developer releases a demo and then encourages people NOT to play it? I'm so confused. Seriously, if all the work I'm doing in the demo only gets me a shirt and WATCHING the demo gets me....levels and money and stuff....WHY play the demo?

I mean, what if I stream it on Mixer? Do I earn influence then?


Influence earned in the demo transfers to the full game from what I understand.

Streaming also earns influence.
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, September 12, 2018 5:16:15 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Stang616 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: SnogardragonS Go to Quoted Post
Wait...I'm confused. Is the ONLY way to earn influence towards Horizon 4 to WATCH Mixer streams of it? Because that seems......counter productive. As there no encouragement there for actually playing the demo. Which...what? What developer releases a demo and then encourages people NOT to play it? I'm so confused. Seriously, if all the work I'm doing in the demo only gets me a shirt and WATCHING the demo gets me....levels and money and stuff....WHY play the demo?

I mean, what if I stream it on Mixer? Do I earn influence then?


Influence earned in the demo transfers to the full game from what I understand.

Streaming also earns influence.


I'd doubt that seeing as the demo resets everytime you turn it off
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, September 12, 2018 5:26:10 PM(UTC)
I hate that they do stuff like this
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, September 12, 2018 5:34:47 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: marcx666 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Stang616 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: SnogardragonS Go to Quoted Post
Wait...I'm confused. Is the ONLY way to earn influence towards Horizon 4 to WATCH Mixer streams of it? Because that seems......counter productive. As there no encouragement there for actually playing the demo. Which...what? What developer releases a demo and then encourages people NOT to play it? I'm so confused. Seriously, if all the work I'm doing in the demo only gets me a shirt and WATCHING the demo gets me....levels and money and stuff....WHY play the demo?

I mean, what if I stream it on Mixer? Do I earn influence then?


Influence earned in the demo transfers to the full game from what I understand.

Streaming also earns influence.


I'd doubt that seeing as the demo resets everytime you turn it off


Idk man, should I take your word for it or the official statement?
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, September 12, 2018 5:42:55 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Clutch63 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: marcx666 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Stang616 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: SnogardragonS Go to Quoted Post
Wait...I'm confused. Is the ONLY way to earn influence towards Horizon 4 to WATCH Mixer streams of it? Because that seems......counter productive. As there no encouragement there for actually playing the demo. Which...what? What developer releases a demo and then encourages people NOT to play it? I'm so confused. Seriously, if all the work I'm doing in the demo only gets me a shirt and WATCHING the demo gets me....levels and money and stuff....WHY play the demo?

I mean, what if I stream it on Mixer? Do I earn influence then?


Influence earned in the demo transfers to the full game from what I understand.

Streaming also earns influence.


I'd doubt that seeing as the demo resets everytime you turn it off


Idk man, should I take your word for it or the official statement?


Well the streaming I know gives you influence, but I can't see the influence you earn from playing the demo you keeping, seeing as it resets, and I must have missed the part where they said you would keep the influence from the demo.
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:03:39 PM(UTC)
Then, the demo is just a ploy to get people to use Mixer more. Which is kind of dumb and kind of takes the fun out of it.
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:57:35 PM(UTC)
It's not dumb because it caters to more people now who don't want to go racing and what not. Same with photographers and painters. I assume they'll have a way to get influence based off of what they do. Especially since that's been a known core concept since the announcment, that you can progress through the game doing different activities other than racing.

Also, you earn influence in game from races. It's not just a mixer thing.
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:56:27 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Clutch63 Go to Quoted Post
It's not dumb because it caters to more people now who don't want to go racing and what not. Same with photographers and painters. I assume they'll have a way to get influence based off of what they do. Especially since that's been a known core concept since the announcment, that you can progress through the game doing different activities other than racing.

Also, you earn influence in game from races. It's not just a mixer thing.


But everyone is saying, if you been paying attention, that you don't keep the influence from anything in-game because if you turn off the demo, it resets everything. And no one has said anything about whether streaming the game earns Influence. But, the entire point of a demo is to sell the game not your streaming service. That'd be like going to a car dealership and the guy says, "While, I know you came in here looking for a car, but why not try one of our many TVs."
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:25:37 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: SnogardragonS Go to Quoted Post
But everyone is saying, if you been paying attention, that you don't keep the influence from anything in-game because if you turn off the demo, it resets everything.


This is incorrect. The announcement literally reads "that earned Influence will unlock when you play the full version of Forza Horizon 4." It's tracking your account being logged in while watching (or streaming) an eligible stream, it has nothing to do with how often you restart the demo. (Edit: correct, demo gameplay doesn't carry over into the full game)

Originally Posted by: SnogardragonS Go to Quoted Post
And no one has said anything about whether streaming the game earns Influence.


Also incorrect. Both the announcement and the blog post say streaming earns Influence.

Further, the idea that this is only in effect for the demo, or that the demo is the only way to earn Influence in the game is incorrect. Mixer is just one of the many methods used to increase Influence in the game, which will continue after launch. From the blog article: "Once you’re in-game, you can find your influence in the Mixer section of the “Horizon Life” menu. Notably, you’ll have to spend a small amount of time unlocking the “Mixer” thread in the campaign – but once you do, all the influence you’ve accrued will be waiting for you! Want to get a jumpstart on earning Influence? Tune into your favorite Forza Horizon 4 Mixer streamers during the demo period to start prepping for your “Horizon Life” before the October 2 launch."

Edited by user Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:51:56 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#13 Posted : Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:33:39 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: ManteoMax Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: SnogardragonS Go to Quoted Post
But everyone is saying, if you been paying attention, that you don't keep the influence from anything in-game because if you turn off the demo, it resets everything.


This is incorrect. The announcement literally reads "that earned Influence will unlock when you play the full version of Forza Horizon 4." It's tracking your account being logged in while watching (or streaming) an eligible stream, it has nothing to do with how often you restart the demo.

Originally Posted by: SnogardragonS Go to Quoted Post
And no one has said anything about whether streaming the game earns Influence.


Also incorrect. Both the announcement and the blog post say streaming earns Influence.

Further, the idea that this is only in effect for the demo, or that the demo is the only way to earn Influence in the game is incorrect. Mixer is just one of the many methods used to increase Influence in the game, which will continue after launch. From the blog article: "Once you’re in-game, you can find your influence in the Mixer section of the “Horizon Life” menu. Notably, you’ll have to spend a small amount of time unlocking the “Mixer” thread in the campaign – but once you do, all the influence you’ve accrued will be waiting for you! Want to get a jumpstart on earning Influence? Tune into your favorite Forza Horizon 4 Mixer streamers during the demo period to start prepping for your “Horizon Life” before the October 2 launch."


This is what is confusing people, Watching stuff on mixer does get you influence, as when you are watching every so often you will get a pop up saying you have gained "3000 influence" and it progresses up at incremental levels the longer you watch. The influence you acquire in the demo from racing and PR stunts and stuff, won;t carry over as far as I know. I think this is where the confusion lies.
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:38:58 PM(UTC)
aha, yes, and there's me having blinders to what Snogardragon was saying. Nothing carries over from within the demo - it's a demo, not a game. That doesn't mean there's not an incentive to play the demo.

To use this example:
Originally Posted by: SnogardragonS Go to Quoted Post
But, the entire point of a demo is to sell the game not your streaming service. That'd be like going to a car dealership and the guy says, "While, I know you came in here looking for a car, but why not try one of our many TVs."


Asking "Why bother playing a demo if nothing carries over to the game?" is like asking "What's the point of test driving the car if it doesn't earn me any discount or options on the car I buy?"

Edited by user Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:53:27 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#15 Posted : Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:55:38 PM(UTC)
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Is there a way to check the amount of influence we have earned before the game launches?


In a browser, look for the blue ribbon icon under the stream title and next to the game name (Forza Horizon 4, even if it's just the demo). Click the blue ribbon and a popup will read "You've earned ##,### Influence. Launch the game to accept the rewards."
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#16 Posted : Thursday, September 13, 2018 7:41:28 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: ManteoMax Go to Quoted Post
Forza Horizon 4 on Mixer & Earning Influence

Remember, you can start earning influence today by watching the Forza Horizon 4 demo and that earned Influence will unlock when you play the full version of Forza Horizon 4. For more information on how to earn influence through Mixer, check out the blog post at www.aka.ms/MixerInfluenceinForza.

<Snip>

Note: Earning influence from gameplay within the demo does not carry over to the full game; this is about tracking watching/streaming to earn Influence. There are additional ways to earn Influence once the game is released.


Apologies if I am misunderstanding, but the first post seems contradictory. If I stream the Demo on Mixer, can I claim this bonus Influence in the full game?

EDIT: I have just re-read and it appears to be saying that the Streaming Influence carries over from the demo to the full game, but the Gameplay Influence does not.

Edited by user Thursday, September 13, 2018 7:42:33 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#17 Posted : Thursday, September 13, 2018 8:02:55 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: ManteoMax Go to Quoted Post
aha, yes, and there's me having blinders to what Snogardragon was saying. Nothing carries over from within the demo - it's a demo, not a game. That doesn't mean there's not an incentive to play the demo.

To use this example:
Originally Posted by: SnogardragonS Go to Quoted Post
But, the entire point of a demo is to sell the game not your streaming service. That'd be like going to a car dealership and the guy says, "While, I know you came in here looking for a car, but why not try one of our many TVs."


Asking "Why bother playing a demo if nothing carries over to the game?" is like asking "What's the point of test driving the car if it doesn't earn me any discount or options on the car I buy?"


Max,

I'm not sure if you were present for the stream, I was. Co Pilot/Suffering said in chat that cosmetics and influence earned in the demo will carry over to the full game, nothing else will. So, unless I misinterpreted that, then yes, influence will carry over to the full game.
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#18 Posted : Thursday, September 13, 2018 8:16:20 AM(UTC)
Question regarding watching the Demo and earning Influence: Do I have to watch Mixer on a web browser, or can I also do it via Xbox and/or the iOS apps?

I watched a little bit of the official stream yesterday and didn't notice any banners or ribbons on iOS. My Gamertag is linked with my Mixer account as specified.



Another question: Are there limits to the amount of Influence you can earn?

What's stopping me from leaving Mixer on overnight and earning a large amount?

Edited by user Thursday, September 13, 2018 8:19:08 AM(UTC)  | Reason: .

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#19 Posted : Thursday, September 13, 2018 8:22:58 AM(UTC)
When I watch a FH4 related Mixer feed on my PC there is a little blue ribbon showing up, but as of yet not when I use my XB1X!
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#20 Posted : Thursday, September 13, 2018 8:27:45 AM(UTC)
yeah, this causes so much lag because most these kids don't have the bandwidth to play online and stream at the same time.
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#21 Posted : Thursday, September 13, 2018 8:49:41 AM(UTC)
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Question regarding watching the Demo and earning Influence: Do I have to watch Mixer on a web browser, or can I also do it via Xbox and/or the iOS apps?

I watched a little bit of the official stream yesterday and didn't notice any banners or ribbons on iOS. My Gamertag is linked with my Mixer account as specified.



Another question: Are there limits to the amount of Influence you can earn?

What's stopping me from leaving Mixer on overnight and earning a large amount?


I think the influence is only earned while the stream is ongoing PJ. I noticed when yesterday's stream that the little blue ribbon disappeared once the stream was over.
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#22 Posted : Thursday, September 13, 2018 9:19:26 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Stang616 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: PJTierney Go to Quoted Post
Question regarding watching the Demo and earning Influence: Do I have to watch Mixer on a web browser, or can I also do it via Xbox and/or the iOS apps?

I watched a little bit of the official stream yesterday and didn't notice any banners or ribbons on iOS. My Gamertag is linked with my Mixer account as specified.



Another question: Are there limits to the amount of Influence you can earn?

What's stopping me from leaving Mixer on overnight and earning a large amount?


I think the influence is only earned while the stream is ongoing PJ. I noticed when yesterday's stream that the little blue ribbon disappeared once the stream was over.


Yeah this, you have to keep switching streams to keep earning points, unless you go to bed watching a streamer who is going to be on till you get up
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#23 Posted : Thursday, September 13, 2018 9:26:19 AM(UTC)
That’s what I’m getting at.

If somebody is doing a 24 hour stream of the full game to earn lots of Influence (by leaving it run idle for example), can I just leave it on or will my Influence earnings cap at 10,000 or some other number.

Edited by user Thursday, September 13, 2018 9:27:04 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#24 Posted : Thursday, September 13, 2018 9:53:04 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: PJTierney Go to Quoted Post
That’s what I’m getting at.

If somebody is doing a 24 hour stream of the full game to earn lots of Influence (by leaving it run idle for example), can I just leave it on or will my Influence earnings cap at 10,000 or some other number.


I earned 16,500 influence yesterday and a few had well over that, it doesn't appear to have a cap.
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#25 Posted : Thursday, September 13, 2018 10:00:42 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: PJTierney Go to Quoted Post
That’s what I’m getting at.

If somebody is doing a 24 hour stream of the full game to earn lots of Influence (by leaving it run idle for example), can I just leave it on or will my Influence earnings cap at 10,000 or some other number.


as of now im on 103000 influence earned from bouncing around streams, so no cap
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