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#26 Posted : Wednesday, July 4, 2018 1:02:26 AM(UTC)
I agree with a lot of what I have read already.

The prize money for photocomp win should be around the 1 million mark I believe, as not many people win them more than once or twice every now and then.

I also think the photocomp winners should be shared on Facebook and Instagram once a week on the same day Consistently.

There have been weeks where there was just no post at all for the winners and there have been weeks where there was a 12 - 14 day gap between “weekly” photocomps.

This is causing confusion for participants.

The car list is good and having 3 entries allowed is good also. 😊
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#27 Posted : Wednesday, July 4, 2018 2:43:01 AM(UTC)
For me everything is working fine at photocomp except that you upload winners on Facebook/Instagram to late. No themes! It's not good for everyone if you must shot car which you don't like. Well the prize should be a bigger for example 1 million credits plus the car from your list. Try to pay attention for real good photos! Not simply "slide shots" for example which anyone can do it. If you reading this please add ability to turn on/off headlights in Photomode at new Horiozn 4! Just like in motorsport series! There is a big Forza photographers community! And we will love to see this option at new Horiozn 4! It's nice that we have Vista mode at each property but it will be nice to have a option to remove driver as well at photomode. But the most important thing is headlights! On/off!
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#28 Posted : Wednesday, July 4, 2018 7:14:04 AM(UTC)
The feedback received is beyond what I expected and I am so grateful! I will compile these over the next few weeks and purpose changes to the rest of the community team. But, by all means, KEEP IT COMING! From what I am seeing, a think a restructure of the prizing is in order, especially around the credit amounts and the upcoming unlock all cars update :).
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#29 Posted : Wednesday, July 4, 2018 9:02:00 AM(UTC)
Painters can spend days in to booth creating quality liveries for the community. The amount of prize credits given to equal the amount of time spent would almost be pointless at this phase games life. I would must rather have greater exposer and/or the opportunity to do something special for the community. (Special prize cars given out to the community with our livery on them or something like that.)
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#30 Posted : Sunday, July 8, 2018 1:48:50 PM(UTC)
I really enjoy the photo contest and faithfully enter every week. My biggest issue with the photo contest is it seems the winners are all from the same group of talented photographers from week to week, which is discouraging to "amateurs." I think the solution is to have a 2 tier contest where at least one of the 10 winners has to have never won before. Thus every contest has a new, "amateur" winner every time, and the pros can continue to produce their quality work and win the prizes they deserve. More people would feel encouraged to enter knowing at least one amateur level photo will win.
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#31 Posted : Sunday, July 8, 2018 2:58:07 PM(UTC)
I’d like to see forum posting of photocomp entries be mandatory like it is for liveries.

It may encourage some photographers to hang around a bit more often and set up their own galleries on the forum.
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#32 Posted : Friday, July 13, 2018 10:39:02 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Hip Flap Jack Go to Quoted Post
I really enjoy the photo contest and faithfully enter every week. My biggest issue with the photo contest is it seems the winners are all from the same group of talented photographers from week to week, which is discouraging to "amateurs." I think the solution is to have a 2 tier contest where at least one of the 10 winners has to have never won before. Thus every contest has a new, "amateur" winner every time, and the pros can continue to produce their quality work and win the prizes they deserve. More people would feel encouraged to enter knowing at least one amateur level photo will win.
Not every week only contains shots from the same talented winners. I have seen my fair share of average shots or bemusing and strange selections. Sure at least 70-90% of all the winners each week are good.

However throughout 1-2 there is a chance two poor or average shots are picked, maybe even a third that had a good idea, but in the end it fell short. And while it is slowly improving. Some of the shots from the first 10 weeks wouldn’t be looked at very long by an art director in a gallery or a professional photographer.

Still here is another idea. Maybe the judges should past on info to Co-Pilot to state why they selected such a shot. Right what do I think about the million pound thing. It is of course a nice thing. In the long run, it might be a two edged sword. Reason being, I feel it might encourage more snap shot people to enter or tempt judges with too much contrast.

Now can high contrast be used probably. Only if there is enough balance with the following things. Lighting, shadows, composition, midtones and use of background or foreground scenery/objects. Anyway I am still hoping judges will put more thought into their future selections. Reason being. There has been some wonderful and eye watering beautiful shots from a past few winners who had their preferred shots to be over looked for another shot that was produced more quickly. Or if they were overlooked by a shot from another person featuring an over used idea, over does it in some areas or is bland.

Right what do I say this. While having their main entry overlooked for another of their shots isn’t a bad thing in their mind, since they still put a bit of work into their winning shots. But in the end. Their preferred shot gave them more joy, due what they have produced in such a way. It could be classed as some of their best work.

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#33 Posted : Monday, July 16, 2018 6:17:19 AM(UTC)
You are always going to have someone that doesn’t like how things are going directly related to how they feel about the process and how that process accepts or doesn’t accept them.

In the end plain and simple this is a photo and livery comp. therefore only the top 10 from each category should be posted each week. If you are not posted in the top ten, you need to work on your submissions and get better at the category you entered.

Raising the money you get for winning is stupid and affects nothing in the long term. If people need more money playing the game should get them all the money they need. I think being posted on the Forza Facebook page should be reward enough along with being posted in game. Maybe you could do a run through of each photo during one of the mixer shows you guys do. But credits should NOT be increased nor should you give away free cars.

As for themes it sounds like a good idea but there have been themed comps on the forum boards for years. It’s not as awesome as it sounds cause it limits a photographer or a painter to a very spacific theme. Not that a challenge is a good way to sharpen your skills... but at the moment we are trying to get just a normal unrestricted comp ironed out. We don’t need to over complicate this by adding themes.

As for what should be determined as a winner for a comp. if turn 10 would use the photo or livery to advertise the video game they created then it deserves to win. Plain and simple. If that happens to be the same ten people every week than so be it. Those that don’t make it need to step their game up. But I have been seeing stuff all over the comps that would not advertise the Forza franchise well at all. If they were used in a commercial for the game I would be ashamed to be playing this game. There needs to be a quality to the winners. To be deserving of being a winner. If you want to showcase amateur photos and liveries then open an amateur photo and livery comp. but that comp would be just for the forums. They wouldnt get posted on the Forza Facebook page or anything.

You can’t please everyone and not everyone can win a comp no matter what it’s for. But if you hold a comp it should be for the top however many people. Anything less than the best and it’s not really a competition but rather just a collection of photos or liveries. You should keep the competitions in the game just make them real competitions. Don’t go half way with them. You want to win then put the time in to win!

You wouldn’t reward a sports team that lost the finials with the trophy would you???

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#34 Posted : Monday, July 16, 2018 6:24:48 AM(UTC)
Another thing I think would be neat is if the occasional contest winner gets a callout on Twitter/Instagram, if we provide our @name in the entry. More people might take part in order to get a moment of "internet fame", who knows.
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#35 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2018 1:16:12 PM(UTC)
I only quickly glanced at a couple posts, so I apologize in advance if I'm restating an idea already brought up.

Primarily, this is going off Tonystarks11311's idea of doing 4 photos for Livery Contests. For this month's contest I just uploaded, I found it difficult to pick the three best shots that come out as good quality photos, while also trying to showcase the paint job itself. The front 3-quarter and rear 3-quarter views are pretty standard amongst most entries, and roof/aerial shots can be tricky as photo mode is often limited in height unless you're close to a danger sign or a ramp at Westpoint Tower. I think stretching the photo count to 4 photos would allow painters and Forzatographers alike to showcase their liveries while also being more unrestricted in presenting their work. Having said that, I'm not sure what happens behind the scenes as to whether or not the judges download the liveries and walk around the car and see parts that we might miss in the preview photos we upload here to the forums. And if that is the case, maybe a 4th photo becomes optional.

Also – this is more of a question than a suggestion – are painter-made logos taken into the consideration at all? Recently I've been adding stickers to my liveries from the manufacturer logos that come with the paint booth, unless I feel there's a different company/logo I want to add. I know that I personally would be designing and including many more custom decals/logos than the stock manufacturer logos if this were, in fact, the case. I'm not too sure how other painters feel about that and whether they make theirs or add the stock ones, but knowing our little details like making new decals for ourselves make a difference may inspire more creativity and keep painters away from slapping a big Bridgestone or Firestone or Brembo logo on the side of the car and calling it a day. Again, that's just my personal opinion, if anyone feels I may be incorrect or anything of the sort, I'd be happy to hear... well... read what you think on the matter, too.

Lastly, somewhat along the lines of the "4 photos" idea, I know the rules don't specifically say we can or can't include a short blurb about the design or where we drew our inspiration from if any, but if a painter feels the need he/she should include such a write-up, possibly even to give credit or a shoutout to another painter for inspiration, would it be alright to do so?
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#36 Posted : Saturday, August 18, 2018 8:55:28 AM(UTC)
I make a point of never using game provided logos or font. Most proper painters never would either, a trained eye can spot a standard font or logo a mile away.
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#37 Posted : Friday, August 24, 2018 9:40:29 PM(UTC)
Suggestion to allow the prize cars from the competitions to also include the locked Forza Edition cars from the Forza Driver's Cup single player campaign.

I've already collected all the available cars but haven't finished the Forza Driver's Cup and to be honest I do prefer to paint and race online than go through the single player campaign (can't stand driving SUV's and similars), so would like to collect those by other means if possible.

Cheers!
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#38 Posted : Tuesday, October 2, 2018 12:02:54 PM(UTC)
I know designs with alcohol or tobacco liveries aren't eligible to win the contest but what about cars with guns depicted as objects without violent context?


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#39 Posted : Wednesday, October 3, 2018 3:45:55 AM(UTC)
Hi all! First, I'd like to thank the brilliant folks at Playground for giving us so many great community features in FH! Being one of the lucky photocomp61 winners (first time in my life I entered and won such a comp), here's how it feels like and what I'd wish for to make it even better:

1) Notify the winners through their Xbox or Xbox UWP app and Forza Hub. I almost forgot about the comp I for over a month and, eventhough I studied design and photojournalism when I was young, I didn't expect to have a chance. There where just so many excellent shots already submitted when I entered, I did it just for fun and for the love I felt for my '77 V8 Vantage. I came to think that having to fulfill a duty as judge for these photocomps would make my heart bleed because of the quality in both the photography (composition, technique etc.) and the intention - love and respect for the car, the design, the scenery or just hunting for the decisive moment to catch the intensity of a situation that just happened. I didn't enter for money and rewards (was gonna move on to FH4 anyway) but for the sheer honor to add a photo to a place where so many great photos already are.

2) Don't change towards themed contests or just make themed ones optional, e.g. OPEN, THEME 1, THEME 2 just as many real world photo comps do: make one competition use 2 or 3 categories. That would give photographers who like to work towards fulfilling a task their motivation without taking others theirs away. Awesome situations happen in FH and an open category helps telling their stories through awe-inspiring images. Many enthusiasts follow their guts when deciding to take "that photo now", as do professionals in the field. That's how hints of a story or a strong personal standpoint, love or just a relation to a specific car make it into an image. Photographic skills take over after that moment.

3) Liveries: I tried it myself and feel nothing but respect for the guys who spend hours in the paint shop to nail their idea or to live up to the real world model they aim to recreate in the game for all of us to drive and enjoy. They give a lot to the community and should be rewarded higher and presented better in- and outside the game. I love how they can level up just by painting in FH4 though!

4) Something's a bit off in FH4 as content, e.g. images is loading VERY slowly, making browsing these beautiful shots a bit of a chore unfortunately - despite lightning fast internet speed. This should be fixed before FH4 photocomps begin.

5) Absolutely in favor of letting winners step down for at least one or two rounds until new photos can be submitted. Again, an in-game status update would be brilliant.

Devs, tuners, painters and shooters: Keep up the great work everyone!
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#40 Posted : Wednesday, October 3, 2018 7:55:37 AM(UTC)
Could someone please change the title to the correct spelling of Opportunity?

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#41 Posted : Saturday, October 6, 2018 9:19:20 AM(UTC)
9 days ago the FM7 (45) livery contest closed, still no result...what's happening?
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#42 Posted : Sunday, October 7, 2018 5:21:23 AM(UTC)
I like the idea of only new designs being entered into Forza Horizon 4 contests, should encourage some new works to be submitted.

That being said it feels like there's no way for an imported design to succeed in-game right now.

Based on my stats from Forza Motorsport 7, a Featured Design can get 10-30,000 downloads depending on the popularity of the car, whereas a non-Featured design will barely reach a few hundred without such a boost. There are many high quality designs that will be missed by Forza Horizon 4 players now that they don't have a way to gain exposure, which makes me wonder if there should be some sort of way for imports to get featured as well.

Personally, I would be okay with entering an imported design into a contest with the sole purpose of getting it Featured in-game, while receiving no additional prizes in return. Maybe that's something that could work; Featured + prizes if your design is new, Featured + no prizes if your design's an import?
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#43 Posted : Sunday, October 7, 2018 5:36:26 AM(UTC)
So what does the restriction on imported designs mean anyway?

I'm currently only painting in FM7 because I find the paint booth and tools to be better suited for me than those in FH4. Right now I'm working on 4 different liveries that I was planning on importing into FH4 and using in the Livery Contests. These are brand-new liveries, not even created yet, but I'm making them in FM7 and exporting to FH4 for ease of use. Does this disqualify me from the FH4 livery contests?

I think most of us have layer groups that we will be exporting into FH4 if we haven't done so already. Are any designs using FM7 layer group disqualified from the contest?

Just wondering what the restrictions are exactly... no need for me to hustle to meet the deadline if I'm already disqualified.
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#44 Posted : Saturday, October 20, 2018 10:32:06 AM(UTC)
Weren't the week 2 winners supposed to be announced yesterday?
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#45 Posted : Sunday, October 21, 2018 5:23:20 AM(UTC)
When is the next livery competition for fh4 going to be open for entry? :)
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#46 Posted : Monday, October 22, 2018 2:01:09 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: XxxXnoodleXxxX Go to Quoted Post
Weren't the week 2 winners supposed to be announced yesterday?

Yeah it's nearly time for week 4 and no new comp or results lol. What's going on?


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#47 Posted : Monday, October 22, 2018 2:23:00 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Jxsey Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: XxxXnoodleXxxX Go to Quoted Post
Weren't the week 2 winners supposed to be announced yesterday?

Yeah it's nearly time for week 4 and no new comp or results lol. What's going on?



Quite a few Turn 10 staff were in London this weekend for ForzaRC World Finals. Give it a few days and I bet things will be updated :)
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#48 Posted : Tuesday, October 23, 2018 1:38:54 PM(UTC)
Re-posting this from a contest thread. Just realized there was an actual place for my feedback

I don't really know if there are new rulers/judges appointed for photo contests, but assuming that the OP is new(because of the new rules), I still feel that I need to suggest changes.

When I saw the last photocomp's winners from the in-game "Turn 10 picks" gallery, I have almost lost complete interest to participate in future contests. There are few problems that bother me.

Firstly, when searching screenshots with the "photocomp1" as description, you can't even see EVERYONE'S entry which is odd. For instance, I attempted to look up for my own entries and there were not in the list. It looks like there is a limit of how many screenshots you can see, which I think is unfair because obviously you can't see everyone but additionally judges could have missed some really great entries.

Secondly, the shots from the winners.... just don't have the artistic flare I was expecting... Judging from what I saw, the shots are more in the realm of "stunts" or are themed as "awesome moment": none of those entries were about professionalism, uniqueness or originality. Some have a bit of professionalism but for me there are not at the level as I was expecting, in contrast to last photocomps winners from past games. It sucks because when I was looking at some entries, I saw some shots with great potential but surprisingly they were not chosen.

So right now, I feel there is no point to take screenshots for competitions unless this is rectified. I really hope my reply will be considered.
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#49 Posted : Tuesday, October 23, 2018 2:18:27 PM(UTC)
I wouldn’t mind the whole two week livery entry restriction among people. Prizes don’t really phase me.

I think you should include more contest variety. Themes would be very nice... or just more categorys so more people can win. Such as:
- Drift
- Race
- Rally
- Fantasy

It would be cool if we got little bades displayed on our Creative hubs, like a little plaque with the contest number on it. Would be really cool.

Irrelevant to Contest:
Can clubs have a dedicated setting (Dedicated to painting... racing... photography) Where it shows their total paint downloads combined or photos, and total combined race wins. Would be cool.

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#50 Posted : Tuesday, October 23, 2018 7:44:13 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: SlickRicki Go to Quoted Post
Secondly, the shots from the winners.... just don't have the artistic flare I was expecting... Judging from what I saw, the shots are more in the realm of "stunts" or are themed as "awesome moment": none of those entries were about professionalism, uniqueness or originality. Some have a bit of professionalism but for me there are not at the level as I was expecting, in contrast to last photocomps winners from past games. It sucks because when I was looking at some entries, I saw some shots with great potential but surprisingly they were not chosen.


This. It was actually quite disappointing looking at the turn 10 picks after seeing a much higher standard in the thread itself than the actual photos that were picked. I’m hoping the next winners will be rightly chosen for photo quality rather than these ‘awesome moments’ SlickRicki is talking about.

Plenty of time to see changes, but this was really quite confusing for me.

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