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#1 Posted : Sunday, June 10, 2018 1:54:27 PM(UTC)
Can anyone confirm whether the homogenisation from FM7 will continue in FH4. The reveal looked great, but this one factor destroyed fm7 for me, I put about 15 hours into a series I usually put hundreds into. I need to be able to make cats my way. FH4 is a day one purchase for me if it's been dropped.

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#2 Posted : Sunday, June 10, 2018 2:34:01 PM(UTC)
Untill now, no Forza Horizon Game on the Xbox One generation, had a homologization system, your opponents drive cars like you, but you get to choose how powerful
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#3 Posted : Sunday, June 10, 2018 2:36:07 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Stray2615 Go to Quoted Post
Can anyone confirm whether the homogenisation from FM7 will continue in FH4. The reveal looked great, but this one factor destroyed fm7 for me, I put about 15 hours into a series I usually put hundreds into. I need to be able to make cats my way. FH4 is a day one purchase for me if it's been dropped.


I didn't realize dairy farming was part of Forza 7. lol

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#4 Posted : Sunday, June 10, 2018 2:36:23 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Zanion Go to Quoted Post
Untill now, no Forza Horizon Game on the Xbox One generation, had a homologization system, your opponents drive cars like you, but you get to choose how powerful


Yeah I know they haven't, but no motorsport has either until 7. I'm hoping it's gone back to class racing
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#5 Posted : Sunday, June 10, 2018 2:37:19 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Stray2615 Go to Quoted Post
Can anyone confirm whether the homogenisation from FM7 will continue in FH4. The reveal looked great, but this one factor destroyed fm7 for me, I put about 15 hours into a series I usually put hundreds into. I need to be able to make cats my way. FH4 is a day one purchase for me if it's been dropped.


I didn't realize dairy farming was part of Forza 7. lol



Lol you know what I mean, that's what my phone autocorrect to.
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#6 Posted : Sunday, June 10, 2018 3:27:06 PM(UTC)
Just remember that the games are made by completely different studios, while they do share some stuff, they won't necessarily have the same features.
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#7 Posted : Sunday, June 10, 2018 3:36:09 PM(UTC)
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Just remember that the games are made by completely different studios, while they do share some stuff, they won't necessarily have the same features.



Yeah I know, bit this feature is the deciding factor on my purchase, so I'd like to know 100% before I preorder it.
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#8 Posted : Sunday, June 10, 2018 9:48:10 PM(UTC)
Pls STOP Homologation!!
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#9 Posted : Sunday, June 10, 2018 10:09:22 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Hazzawalker Go to Quoted Post
Just remember that the games are made by completely different studios, while they do share some stuff, they won't necessarily have the same features.



Yeah I know, bit this feature is the deciding factor on my purchase, so I'd like to know 100% before I preorder it.


Seeing as how the game was just announced today I’d imagine you would have to wait as information pertaining to features is trickled out till launch day. No one knows yet.
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#10 Posted : Sunday, June 10, 2018 10:35:58 PM(UTC)
Motorsport games always had a set PI limit which we upgraded up to, Horizon games always allowed us to race with our cars upgraded to whatever random PI we liked. It's a totally different philosophy for setting up cars, so I can't imagain any compulsory upgrading system would or could apply.
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#11 Posted : Sunday, June 10, 2018 10:52:51 PM(UTC)
I think we need a bit better balancing in Horizon, because B class and below was just a joke, honestly. But yeah, homogenization for everything would be bad. Maybe for some very specific events it could work, but all the time, not so much.
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#12 Posted : Monday, June 11, 2018 2:11:16 AM(UTC)
I doubt it. You wouldn't rock up to a street race/car meet and have dudebros put restrictors on your car or tell you that you can't enter this car meet cos your tyres are too phat.
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#13 Posted : Monday, June 18, 2018 9:58:48 AM(UTC)
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Motorsport games always had a set PI limit which we upgraded up to, Horizon games always allowed us to race with our cars upgraded to whatever random PI we liked. It's a totally different philosophy for setting up cars, so I can't imagain any compulsory upgrading system would or could apply.


Yeah, but there is difference with 7. Other Forza's would let you bypass this to run cars stock, or whith whatever upgrades you wanted.

FM7 forced this into it's gameplay, and although I respect that some people like it, for me it just ruined the game. I play exclusively offline and I see no point of a system like this. AI will adjust to you anyway.
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#14 Posted : Monday, June 18, 2018 10:01:59 AM(UTC)
Hi guys,

We do not have homologation in any of the Forza Horizon titles.

Cheers,

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#15 Posted : Monday, June 18, 2018 10:21:59 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Nitro Glitter Go to Quoted Post
We do not have homologation in any of the Forza Horizon titles.

If not homologation, what are "the rules of the competition", then? Do we have Performance Index, car classes (A, B, C, D...) and types (Classic Muscle, Retro Rally, etc) like FH3? Is it business as usual for Horizon?

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#16 Posted : Monday, June 18, 2018 10:38:48 AM(UTC)
I actually loved that aspect from FM7 because it made races online more balanced overall, and they later re-introduced class-based racing so you do have the choice in FM7. In the Horizon series it makes less sense to put it because there is less focus on being faster and 1st in every race, you get tons of points for just driving clean and overall the emphasis is more on fun. I play a ton of Forza Horizon online, and it doesn't bother me as much when I am not first. In FM7 however, that is basically my only goal is to be 1st each race.
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#17 Posted : Monday, June 18, 2018 11:04:16 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: BabySeal363 Go to Quoted Post

If not homologation, what are "the rules of the competition", then? Do we have Performance Index, car classes (A, B, C, D...) and types (Classic Muscle, Retro Rally, etc) like FH3? Is it business as usual for Horizon?


My bet would be something similar to FH3.
Homologation makes since for the Motorsport series as it is a thing in real motorsport, But it makes little sense with the free-form do whatever you want feel Horizon goes for. Anyone that was seriously worried about Homologation in Horizon must have some really pessimistic views on life.
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#18 Posted : Monday, June 18, 2018 11:52:51 AM(UTC)
Homologation very nearly ruined FM7 for me. Glad to see it will not be in Horizon 4.
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#19 Posted : Monday, June 18, 2018 1:52:13 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Nitro Glitter Go to Quoted Post
Hi guys,

We do not have homologation in any of the Forza Horizon titles.

Cheers,



This is vague. You could be talking about only past titles. Why not say Horizon 4, unless there is a possibility?


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#20 Posted : Monday, June 18, 2018 2:01:15 PM(UTC)
Going by Nitro Glitter's comment, I wonder if that means it'll be the same system as FH3. Hopefully it is, it was probably my favourite implementation of the PI system in Forza, not being forced to upgrade your car if you didn't want to, nor are you limited to what you can upgrade to since Drivatars will match whatever PI you are.

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#21 Posted : Monday, June 18, 2018 2:24:09 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Nitro Glitter Go to Quoted Post
Hi guys,

We do not have homologation in any of the Forza Horizon titles.

Cheers,



This is vague. You could be talking about only past titles. Why not say Horizon 4, unless there is a possibility?




How is that vague? FH4 falls under “any of the Forza Horizon titles.” Not to mention it’s in the FH4 forums.
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#22 Posted : Monday, June 18, 2018 9:36:31 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Nitro Glitter Go to Quoted Post
Hi guys,

We do not have homologation in any of the Forza Horizon titles.

Cheers,


Oh that's not fair
I like homogenization
Can't it at least be an option like stock

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#23 Posted : Monday, June 18, 2018 10:52:00 PM(UTC)
Homologation has made absolutely no difference to the way I play Forza, my proper gamertag account still makes plenty of money selling tunes.
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#24 Posted : Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:06:12 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: talby71 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Nitro Glitter Go to Quoted Post
Hi guys,

We do not have homologation in any of the Forza Horizon titles.

Cheers,


Oh that's not fair
I like homogenization
Can't it at least be an option like stock



Would've tied in perfectly with the tractors in FH4, even though they're only traffic, lol
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#25 Posted : Tuesday, June 19, 2018 6:41:33 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Hazzawalker Go to Quoted Post
Just remember that the games are made by completely different studios, while they do share some stuff, they won't necessarily have the same features.


Your are correct about the 2 different studios. However, this is the first year that I have seen Turn 10 studios take center stage during the promotion of a Forza Horizon game. Nearly every interview regarding Forza Horizon 4, that I have seen, has been conducted by a senior member of Turn 10 Studios, and not Playground Games.


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