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#26 Posted : Friday, May 18, 2018 11:52:08 AM(UTC)
Yeah, I usually just post one representative of each livery with a notation of other cars it is on. I may not have the flip done on that one but if someone wanted the inverse of any of the banner liveries or the banner livery on a Pontiac I've missed, I can certainly do it.

I'm running out of unique sponsors I have done that are worthy of the livery contest so this might start getting more variation. That was kind of the motivation for finishing the Caddy. I really need to focus on getting some NASCAR contingency decals done so I can get the Dale Jarrett Quality Care and Mark Martin 95 Brickyard liveries shared as proper replicas. Currently I just have them as a couple people used them for a league with some extra decals for the league and some wrong contingencies to fill out the area.

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#27 Posted : Saturday, May 19, 2018 7:17:22 PM(UTC)
I usually go for your Seasoned Gamers paints when it comes to certain cars. I like the CTSCC-inspired numberplate.

I did find the '14 Civic's paint a little bit empty, and the Maserati one with the trident has a low res logo on the side, but other than that they're among my favorites.
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#28 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2018 4:52:46 AM(UTC)
The trident on the side of that car is just the in game Maserati logo blown up gigantic on the side of the car. It is a cool livery that has always gotten quite a few downloads for not having been featured. It would be better if I made the trident myself to get rid of some of the blending I had to do between the blue in the game logo and the closest I could get a blue to be. I should work on that.

There are a few of the seasoned gamers liveries that were done as pre season samples that weren't actually getting raced or that's just what the team running the livery wanted. Off the top of my head I don't remember what the livery I did on the Civic was. Red white and blue with the sillohette of a flag man? I kind of think that one was just playing with ideas before the car draft happened. I think that team ended up in the Sciracco with the crossed flags on it if it. We were trying to clean up the old sim racing nation logo with the flagger and it just wasn't working out.

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#29 Posted : Monday, August 20, 2018 4:50:40 AM(UTC)
I haven't been playing Forza much lately, just enough to run in a league, poorly with no practice. But I'm now prepping for a new league over on Seasoned Gamers. I know a lot of people that follow my paints do so for the old school stuff and I'm prepping for a Vintage Stock Car league:
http://www.seasonedgamer...-series-2018-vscs/page-2

Check out the link and sign up if you think you might be interested. Working on a replica of a Dodge Mario Rossi owned now. It'll be raced with a different number but I still have to make a 2 and the car was originally 22 so it will be shared as a replica in addition to the league version. I just shared some new vinyl groups with the old Dodge text logo last night including one that is just an outline with open letters as I need the letters to be gold for the car I'm working on.

I think I'm going to be running a 67 Chevelle with an adjusted Ford livery since there aren't any Fords that work out for use in the league. Maybe I'll change my mind as I haven't started that yet. There weren't many Chevies running in the late 60's to make replicas of though.

One of the guys is running a GTO so that will likely get a version of the Royal Trans Am.
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#30 Posted : Tuesday, August 21, 2018 6:35:16 PM(UTC)
I'm happy that you're tackling the Brooks-Massey Charger, I'll surely download it when ready.

The concept of the league is really great, all the best to you guys. ;) I wanted to do something like this in Free Play but Forza doesn't let me to.
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#31 Posted : Thursday, August 30, 2018 8:02:16 AM(UTC)
WIP of the Mario Rossi Charger livery as it will be run on a Coronet in the league


And the WIP in replica form on the Charger


Working I'm kind of doing a mix of working on all the base cars and the contingency decals. I have some done from prior liveries but there are a few I need to make for the stock car series and to complete this car specifically. The gold is a metal flake from the game and the numbers and Dodge letters are done so they are the base color gold as well. Should pop on track though the livery editor lighting doesn't show it off very well.

The driver of the Pontiac I'm doing runs 28 and asked for the Grey Ghost livery. So, I've got a start on that. I've also started my Ford Chevy mash up with the Mario Andretti Daytona win on the Chevelle but Bobby Allison actually won some races in a Chevy in the time period so I may abort that silliness and run the red and white 2 Bobby Allison drove.

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#32 Posted : Friday, August 31, 2018 12:14:52 PM(UTC)


More WIP, the grey ghost on a Pontiac GTO. Going to be a bunch of WIP for a bit and then a bunch of new finished cars all at once
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#33 Posted : Wednesday, September 5, 2018 5:03:55 AM(UTC)
The last WIPs. I'll be getting these all shared here this week. Working on a few more decals to put on them still. This one is based on an Oldsmobile that Cecil Gordon ran in the late 70's adjusted to fit on the 69 Olds. I think the adaptation to the older car with a totally different body worked out pretty well.



New decals that are shared, NAPA Regal Ride crown in full accurate detail. I searched, mine is by far the best, whether you can actually see it shrunk down on the side of a car or not is debatable, haha.
The old school NASCAR intentional logo in the late 60's blue/grey colors. Not my most detailed work but looks good on the side of a car and there's no reason to ever use it as anything other than small size. I didn't find that there was any version of this decal already shared by anyone.
Fram, meh, you don't care, lots of people do this one pretty accurately, it's easy.
I did the Premier fasteners one in two versions but got an error when sharing, need to go back in and try again
NAPA logo by itself.
Dayco Belts, again, the best version of this decal I found shared.

We'll see how many more I get done before race time. Since the 21, 28 and 24 aren't total replicas anyway I'm doing all I can this week and will share them with the decals I have available. The actual 22 replica on the Charger and the Bobby Allison replica below with the full gamut but it may be a couple more weeks before the full replica's are complete.

Bobby Allison Chevelle I will be running. There will be a few versions of this. This one with the 411. Then they ran it with a 427 where they painted a white box over the 411 and put black 427 numbers on the white box. There's another where the red was a bit different and the 2 was different too that had Donnie Allison on the door with Donnie taped over. LOL. I'm doing that one just because I found that funny.

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#34 Posted : Friday, September 7, 2018 4:26:36 AM(UTC)
OP updated with the completed versions of the Pontiac Grey Ghost, Coronet and Cecil Gordon Oldsmobile. All three cars are finished and shared. Still working on the two Bobby Allison replicas. Have a few more decals to create. The first version of the Chevelle will be done very soon. The Charger might be a couple weeks out as it has more decals.

Pure Gas/Oil decal is done and shared but it's the easy version from the later 60's without the Eagle. There were probably already good versions of that one.
Premier decal with white flags is shared now. Still having problems with the one with the background colored flags.
Magnaflux which is the little orange square on some of the 1969 NASCARs is done and shared.
I updated the old school NASCAR logo. In making the flags I had to sacrifice one area for another and it looked wrong. I fixed it and the flags look much better now.

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#35 Posted : Saturday, September 8, 2018 9:15:13 PM(UTC)
Another quasi replica old NASCAR added to the bottom of the OP. I might do it in Jim's 56 with the right contingencies at some point but for now it is shared as is.
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#36 Posted : Sunday, September 9, 2018 1:17:35 PM(UTC)
Never realized how beast the WO23 looks until now.

The division it's in would've been great if they hadn't added the Falcon. IMO the Falcon should've been in Historic Road Racing instead.
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#37 Posted : Monday, September 10, 2018 7:15:41 AM(UTC)
We thought about trying to use the Falcon in Vintage Stock Car to get a Ford and it is similar to the Torino. But yeah, it is so OP compared to the other cars. Would have needed a hard nerf. Agree that Historic Road Racing is where all the old Falcons best fit.
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#38 Posted : Wednesday, September 12, 2018 5:57:07 AM(UTC)
My replicas keep getting delayed by doing more late adds for paints for the series. Not too late to join if anyone is interested!

On the docket now, we've got a guy with a reputation for being upside down. He's getting a take on Johnny Beuchamp's car that pushed Lee Petty off the top of the Daytona banking in the 1961 Daytona 500. Pretty basic, orange numbers with a black outline on a white car with a few small logos.

That's going to be going on the 65 GTO.

This will be going on the 71 GTX but I'll likely do replica versions on the 68 Charger and the Daytona. Dave Marcis' Number 30.
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#39 Posted : Monday, September 17, 2018 8:49:57 AM(UTC)
The Johnny Beauchamp inspired 65 GTO is done in two versions. The original normal version is pictured in the OP. And having a little fun with it.

LOL. The original right side up version ended up laying upsdie down in practice last night. Too bad I didn't have this one shared already before that.

This version of the PURE decal is shared both generic and with Pontiac at the top. As I use it with other manufacturers I will probably share it with their names too. The generic version should have the manufacturer of the car in red put on the top. The Air Lift and the early 60's version of the Perfect Circle Piston Rings decal is shared too. Next up is finishing off the Dave Marcis car on the Plymouth, working out the fine details of the numbers now. It's pretty much done after that. Then I will continue working toward completion of all the replicas on the correct cars.

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#40 Posted : Monday, September 17, 2018 3:50:18 PM(UTC)
These cars are really fun to race with your designs!

I take it the Fairlane wasn't added to the league because the engine doesn't have many upgrades, right? The Thunderbolt, as the counterpart to the Dart, does not have any weight upgrade other than Race either.
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#41 Posted : Tuesday, September 18, 2018 4:38:10 AM(UTC)
The organizer of the series really wanted to include a Ford, I really wanted to run a Ford and tried to build the Thunderbolt and the 73 Falcon as an almost Torino. They just didn't work. The Thunderbolt was way slow and would have needed a bunch of extra PI. The Falcon was way fast and would have needed a hard nerf. The series also has a ballast system and both cars would have been difficult to meet the series build specs with ballast. There were a few of us disappointed that none of the Fords worked. It sure would be nice if Turn 10 would give us a Talladega, or any Torino for that matter. Or even a Galaxie. They aren't Mustangs though so Ford probably just blows Turn 10 off on those requests if Turn 10 does actually ask to license them. I've been wishing in vain for a Talladega since the Daytona got added.

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#42 Posted : Tuesday, October 9, 2018 10:31:14 AM(UTC)
Nice job with all the old Nascar liveries. I hope we get to see that blue Charger complete soon, that one looked really cool!

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#43 Posted : Saturday, October 20, 2018 6:45:43 PM(UTC)
These old NASCARs ran much wider tires than the street versions. Did they do some fabrication to prevent rubbing with the negative offset wheels?
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#44 Posted : Thursday, November 1, 2018 9:04:57 AM(UTC)
Horizon kind of derailed my progress on finishing the replica paints but I will get back to them soon. I've exhausted most of the play ability from FH4 and I'm nearing having all the Tier points from it.

If you look at pics of old NASCARs you will see that they would cut the wheel wells to have bigger opening in some instances and in other instances create some small lip flares on the fenders. From the start of the Ford unibody Fairlanes they ran a hybrid chassis that used the front stub off a Galaxie so there was no issue with rubbing on the inside of the wheel wells. The same chassis would keep getting new bodies as the styling changed every couple of years so there are cars that have history as a 65 Galxie and then a 66/7 Fairlane, a 68 Torino, a 69 Talladega, a 70/1 Torino and so on. The amount of life they were getting out of a chassis was incredible.

Like Days of Thunder said, there's nothing stock about a stock car. Even true in the 60s.
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#45 Posted : Wednesday, January 9, 2019 11:25:27 PM(UTC)
I see. I missed your development of the Charger so I remembered this thread. Sorry for not replying earlier. How's it going?

I enjoy making period-correct builds sometimes, but the rulebook and the cars back then were so varied, with conflicting reports, some on the verge of myth, that it's difficult to determine what's adequate for in-game builds. In homologation itself, you already have to replace the stock tires with street radials most of the time. So you can almost never have a historically-correct car.

One thing I tend to do is add more restrictions on top of Turn 10's. Say, if the top car in its class has adjustable Race suspension, then everyone can have it. Seems to me that racing is more fair this way. One of the flaws in the system is how there's still cars that can be fully built to race-spec in the same division as others that run almost completely stock, even if the latter are capable out of the box (Evo V for example). We remain limited by the PI's arbitrary understanding of a car's performance.
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