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#1 Posted : Wednesday, October 4, 2017 2:43:43 PM(UTC)
This should have been called "Forza 7: Blair Witch Project" lol. I saw that on Youtube. It's true. Forza 7 is dark even when it's supposed to be sunny outside. I know when we're wearing polarized sunglasses it's a little darker out, but this isn't why.

So I went to my options and Video. I couldn't see the the logo I was supposed to see. I looked for a slider to adjust brightness. There wasn't any. The instructions told me to adjust my television. Really. Turn 10 couldn't be bothered to put a brightness adjustment in their game.

I have my TV calibrated with the settings on my XBoxOne. Every AAA title game I've played has a brightness adjustment in the game itself. But Forza 7? No. Turn 10 wants me to adjust my TV for their game. So when I go back and play Destiny 2 I have to readjust my TV to play that game, or readjust Destiny 2 to accommodate Forza 7. But what about when I want to watch stuff like TV through my XBox? When I watch Netflix or Hulu, I have to readjust my TV to watch a program.

This is supposed to be a launch title for XBoxOne S, and you guys couldn't be bothered putting in brightness and contrast adjustments? Seriously? Sheer laziness. First we're hosed on the VIP stuff, and this, too?
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, October 4, 2017 9:43:33 PM(UTC)
I and many others have this problem 😐
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, October 4, 2017 9:56:10 PM(UTC)
this is the improved graphics they are selling us. the game is garbage
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, October 4, 2017 11:51:33 PM(UTC)
It's because the lighting model is adjusted for HDR displays. If you don't have an HDR screen you can't see the full spectrum of the picture. Not enough brightness in the sunshine and not enough details in the dark. I agree that on regular screens the game can look dark and washed out, especially in cloudy weather. The track surface and the environment can be surprisingly dark even if it's midday but cloudy. You need an HDR display to fully appreciate the graphics.
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#5 Posted : Thursday, October 5, 2017 4:50:04 AM(UTC)
this problem is not fixed by tv or pc brightness settings , it`s their lighting system thats causing this .
And i have 4K tv with HDR Pro , but it wont turn on HDR on PC . while it works perfect on PS4 Pro turning on automaticly when detects HDR games

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#6 Posted : Thursday, October 5, 2017 5:00:50 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: sH0tgUn jUliA Go to Quoted Post
...I have my TV calibrated with the settings on my XBoxOne. Every AAA title game I've played has a brightness adjustment in the game itself. But Forza 7? No. Turn 10 wants me to adjust my TV for their game. So when I go back and play Destiny 2 I have to readjust my TV to play that game, or readjust Destiny 2 to accommodate Forza 7. But what about when I want to watch stuff like TV through my XBox? When I watch Netflix or Hulu, I have to readjust my TV to watch a program.


First world problems.
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#7 Posted : Thursday, October 5, 2017 5:56:11 AM(UTC)
Quite cheap excuse to make lighting from hdr demands only, do they forgot that there's still millions of players w/out hdr... And they managed to make FH3 which work both ways. Somehow it feels that suddenly Turn10's ppl became incompetent.
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#8 Posted : Thursday, October 5, 2017 5:57:38 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: dreampage Go to Quoted Post
It's because the lighting model is adjusted for HDR displays. If you don't have an HDR screen you can't see the full spectrum of the picture. Not enough brightness in the sunshine and not enough details in the dark. I agree that on regular screens the game can look dark and washed out, especially in cloudy weather. The track surface and the environment can be surprisingly dark even if it's midday but cloudy. You need an HDR display to fully appreciate the graphics.


I would have to correct you here - this is a lighting bug that has carried over from FH3.

For example, you'd be driving certain cars around certain times of day, and from the cockpit view it would get very dark or very bright, but the moment you switch to one of the outside views, colors, contrast and brightness displays correctly. However, when you're driving a car that's relatively dark from the hood view, you'd again get this problem, but it remedies itself once the dark paintjob is out of the way.

I did plenty of experimentation with this in H3 - it's a lighting bug, nothing more. You might look at it as a bit of an oversight. I'd suggest everyone to stick to the full screen/bonnet cam or chase cam. Besides, it only happens on certain tracks around certain times of day and not every car. Depends on what internal contrast level is set in the car's cockpit.

Horizon 3 is not a game that's natively made in HDR, in fact, HDR is an enhancement, a graphical add on so to speak.

Guys, please take the liberty of reporting visual bugs here:

https://forums.forzamoto...hical-glitches-here.aspx
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#9 Posted : Thursday, October 5, 2017 7:04:33 AM(UTC)
I hope this gets addressed in both ways - optimize the game for non HDR TVs to have atleast better graphics than Forza 6 and add the birghtness slider, so we can still finetune Forza without having to reset it again for other games.
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#10 Posted : Thursday, October 5, 2017 7:50:38 AM(UTC)
There is a brightness slider in video settings.
This can only be selected from the main menu, (not mid race)
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#11 Posted : Thursday, October 5, 2017 9:37:10 AM(UTC)
Well, then I'll show you different. http://puu.sh/xQKBt/604e39d3f8.png No Brightness slider, jsut the information to go to the xbox app for setting up the TV settings.
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#12 Posted : Thursday, October 5, 2017 9:45:40 AM(UTC)
i dont have a brightess slider either.

Edited by user Thursday, October 5, 2017 9:49:47 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#13 Posted : Thursday, October 5, 2017 11:00:58 AM(UTC)
I think it began in Forza 6 with the addition of night racing.

In previous games you could adjust the brightness with a slider but now we could race at night it was like Turn 10 were in the room with you saying in that smug dad voice "Ahhh no we won't let you cheat, racing in the dark is supposed to be hard to see".

I was like "No guys you don't understand...I actually see pretty well in the dark...way better than you give us credit for...in fact you didn't even add light sources for trackside lights to Spa in Belgium"

...anyway
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#14 Posted : Thursday, October 5, 2017 12:59:46 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Speed Demon996 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: dreampage Go to Quoted Post
It's because the lighting model is adjusted for HDR displays. If you don't have an HDR screen you can't see the full spectrum of the picture. Not enough brightness in the sunshine and not enough details in the dark. I agree that on regular screens the game can look dark and washed out, especially in cloudy weather. The track surface and the environment can be surprisingly dark even if it's midday but cloudy. You need an HDR display to fully appreciate the graphics.


I would have to correct you here - this is a lighting bug that has carried over from FH3.

For example, you'd be driving certain cars around certain times of day, and from the cockpit view it would get very dark or very bright, but the moment you switch to one of the outside views, colors, contrast and brightness displays correctly. However, when you're driving a car that's relatively dark from the hood view, you'd again get this problem, but it remedies itself once the dark paintjob is out of the way.

I did plenty of experimentation with this in H3 - it's a lighting bug, nothing more. You might look at it as a bit of an oversight. I'd suggest everyone to stick to the full screen/bonnet cam or chase cam. Besides, it only happens on certain tracks around certain times of day and not every car. Depends on what internal contrast level is set in the car's cockpit.

Horizon 3 is not a game that's natively made in HDR, in fact, HDR is an enhancement, a graphical add on so to speak.

Guys, please take the liberty of reporting visual bugs here:

https://forums.forzamoto...hical-glitches-here.aspx


Interesting - let's hope for a patch on this one - many racers will be using the cockpit view (personally I love the 'no hands' view). It is also an issue with not having a HDR TV. If you go to the brightness setting in game, it directs you to an option in the xbox settings to adjust the brightness (which is pretty clunky), but my TV. although only a year old, does not have the option it mentions. Pretty poor design.

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#15 Posted : Thursday, October 5, 2017 1:41:35 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Speed Demon996 Go to Quoted Post

I would have to correct you here - this is a lighting bug that has carried over from FH3.

For example, you'd be driving certain cars around certain times of day, and from the cockpit view it would get very dark or very bright, but the moment you switch to one of the outside views, colors, contrast and brightness displays correctly. However, when you're driving a car that's relatively dark from the hood view, you'd again get this problem, but it remedies itself once the dark paintjob is out of the way. ...


I didn`t know about this bug, but I find myself switching out of cockpit view when the darkness takes over. It helps, but I am not sure if the lighting is really correct then, or just less of a problem due to having the windshield out of the way. Will keep an eye on that from now on.

On top of that, I hope they do something about the tunnels (Rio, Dubai). Can`t see anything in there, I basicly just try to keep distance from the lightsources on the walls.
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#16 Posted : Thursday, October 5, 2017 1:57:42 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Explosivo93 Go to Quoted Post
Well, then I'll show you different. http://puu.sh/xQKBt/604e39d3f8.png No Brightness slider, jsut the information to go to the xbox app for setting up the TV settings.


Weird mines has a slider for brightness on Xbox One S, I tried streaming to PC and the sliders do nothing.

Edited by user Tuesday, March 27, 2018 12:36:25 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#17 Posted : Thursday, October 5, 2017 2:51:06 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Binurah Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Speed Demon996 Go to Quoted Post

I would have to correct you here - this is a lighting bug that has carried over from FH3.
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It helps, but I am not sure if the lighting is really correct then, or just less of a problem due to having the windshield out of the way. Will keep an eye on that from now on.
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Just to update ... might be this bug is there too, but I don`t think it`s the main issue. I just tried switching views on a super dark track and it didn`t change anything.

Imo it`s simply an issue with lighting.
The track (Silverstone) was set for something like light-clouds changing to light-rain (it was a career so it`s just a guess).
When the race started the sky was almost entirely clear, with a few unfortunate clouds obscuring the sun ... resulting in an almost black track surface.
It actually got a bit brighter when more clouds came in for the light rain, I guess because the clouds moved a bit out of the sun`s way.

I don`t know how Turn10 do their lighting, but I`d say the values for ambient light or global illumination sometimes don`t match the skies.
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#18 Posted : Thursday, October 5, 2017 6:12:43 PM(UTC)
Precisely fellas, lighting issue, that's all it is. It also makes brake lights on a number of cars light up to a bright neon orange rather than red (FM6 Homestead anyone?). Same is the case in H3, driving when it gets darker especially.

I wish the headlights would either stay on while driving around certain tracks in the default late afternoon/early evening setting or give the player the option to toggle them on/off. Anyway, that's for another thread.

I'm sure the lighting bug is bound to get fixed in a future patch.
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#19 Posted : Thursday, October 5, 2017 8:28:29 PM(UTC)
It didn't bug me while racing but in the car upgrades option it drives me nuts. Every wheel in the upgrades just looks black to me and can hardly see the design of the shape of the wheel when it simulates what it looks like on the car. I couldn't tell if one of the bbs wheels were gold or anthracite by looking at the car if not for the picture of the wheel in the menu/upgrade shop.
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#20 Posted : Thursday, October 5, 2017 8:36:15 PM(UTC)
Yep, some of the overcast and twilight renderings are hilariously murky. I find myself squinting and leaning into the screen, still unable to make out the track detail.
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#21 Posted : Thursday, October 5, 2017 8:43:36 PM(UTC)
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It didn't bug me while racing but in the car upgrades option it drives me nuts. Every wheel in the upgrades just looks black to me and can hardly see the design of the shape of the wheel when it simulates what it looks like on the car. I couldn't tell if one of the bbs wheels were gold or anthracite by looking at the car if not for the picture of the wheel in the menu/upgrade shop.


Same here. The track doesnt bother me, its the rims and paint colors. I find myself painting a car first in a light color and silver wheels then upgrade and then picking the real colors i want. The colors on track look nothing like when your painting. It even differs from the paint menu to the car selection menu. I also thought the same thing about fm6 being to dark but i didnt hear many complaints then.
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#22 Posted : Friday, October 6, 2017 11:37:24 AM(UTC)
I have the Ultimate Edition. I pre-ordered back in June. My TV does not support HDR so things just default to 1080p anyway. The UE does not have sliders.

Those of you who have sliders, please state which edition you have, and whether or not you're using HDR? That may answer some of the questions. I may have to trade in my game for a different edition.
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#23 Posted : Friday, October 6, 2017 11:39:10 AM(UTC)
All of the core game is the same regardless of which edition you purchased.

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#24 Posted : Friday, October 6, 2017 12:29:01 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Nick Chronic Go to Quoted Post
this problem is not fixed by tv or pc brightness settings , it`s their lighting system thats causing this .
And i have 4K tv with HDR Pro , but it wont turn on HDR on PC . while it works perfect on PS4 Pro turning on automaticly when detects HDR games
HDR now works on PC> Although the lighting bug is still there.

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#25 Posted : Friday, October 6, 2017 12:50:46 PM(UTC)
Gamma and brightness are actually two different settings. If the game is to dark adjust brightness on your tv while you’re in the video options under settings.

Leave gamma as it tinkers with the whites intensity and not the blacks. For those with 4K tv w/ HDR just make sure the FM logo just disappear and it should give you proper HDR effects. FYI, if logo still won’t disappear at full max settings then either brightness on your tv is too low or gamma in FM settings too high.

Yes. I do noticed some cockpit views still darker than it should be and like some say it could be a bug.
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