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#101 Posted : Saturday, September 23, 2017 7:56:49 AM(UTC)

i5-4690K@4800MHz
16GB DDR3@2400MHz
GTX 980
SSD 256GB (game here)
Resolution 1920x1080@60Hz, Settings Recommended - High...
Windows 10 Pro ver.1703 (15063.608)
GeForce Game Ready Driver 385.69 WHQL


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0kpWfCrxxc

load core #0 - 100%, stuttering pictures in the menu, and sometimes in the race.
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#102 Posted : Saturday, September 23, 2017 9:25:10 AM(UTC)
Hi all,

Just following up here, regarding the "one core" issue that made the rounds yesterday. There's been an update to that WCCFTech story with some further clarification from our chief software architect, Chris Tector. Here's the quote:

"Forza Motorsport 7 is not limited to running on one core. There seems to have been a miscommunication along the way. Forza Motorsport 7 uses as many cores as are available on whatever system it runs on, whether that is a 4- to 16-core PC or the 7 cores available on Xbox One.”

Thanks,
Brian

Edited by user Saturday, September 23, 2017 9:25:41 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified


Brian Ekberg
Forza Community Manager
ForzaMotorsport.net
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#103 Posted : Saturday, September 23, 2017 9:59:34 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Mechberg Go to Quoted Post
Hi all,

Just following up here, regarding the "one core" issue that made the rounds yesterday. There's been an update to that WCCFTech story with some further clarification from our chief software architect, Chris Tector.


That is a great relief, if the final game does indeed use all cores like FH3 does (aka ''Threaded Optimization'' option). There's no logical reason for this not to be the case, yet I'm still a bit skeptical...
Thanks for the clarification.

EDIT: Also, I got to wonder, why don't you confirm that demo is a different build that the full game, where the issue isn't prevalent. IF that is the case ofcourse, if not then you should do the same as you did with Horizon 3 to fix it.

Edited by user Saturday, September 23, 2017 11:39:38 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

i7 6700K
Kingston Predator DDR4 16GB 3Ghz
MSI GTX 1080 Gaming Plus
Dell U2515H 1440p
Made from the ground up for PC - Bill Giese
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#104 Posted : Saturday, September 23, 2017 10:33:00 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Mechberg Go to Quoted Post
Hi all,

Just following up here, regarding the "one core" issue that made the rounds yesterday. There's been an update to that WCCFTech story with some further clarification from our chief software architect, Chris Tector. Here's the quote:

"Forza Motorsport 7 is not limited to running on one core. There seems to have been a miscommunication along the way. Forza Motorsport 7 uses as many cores as are available on whatever system it runs on, whether that is a 4- to 16-core PC or the 7 cores available on Xbox One.”

Thanks,
Brian


Ha ha ha, what a PR blunder of note!

From people's experience of the demo, it doesn't seem to use that many cores. This implies that the retail version is different. Why not just say that? Why not just say that it is an issue that affects the demo only?

EDIT:

From the wcctech article:
Quote:
We would have been very surprised otherwise, as mentioned in the original story below. Still, if that is the case then the game is presently not running as intended after all, at least on PC, because the stuttering issues and uneven core balance are easily verifiable during the demo.

Edited by user Saturday, September 23, 2017 10:34:30 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#105 Posted : Saturday, September 23, 2017 10:45:10 AM(UTC)
If it does utilize more than one core it should run very smooth on my pc at 1080p.

i7 4770k
GTX 780
16GB ram

Game stutters like crazy. Regardless of the settings. Pretty much unplayable. However on my Xbox one the game runs very smooth. Which is funny because the Xbox has half the procks sing and GPU power of the PC. Core 0 stuck at 100% the rest at 15 to 30%.

I'm really hoping final release is better. Just sharing my experience.
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#106 Posted : Saturday, September 23, 2017 11:11:27 AM(UTC)
I don't understand... This demo is the only version of the game who suffers from one thread issue ??
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#107 Posted : Saturday, September 23, 2017 11:18:33 AM(UTC)
I've decided to check how's things, and apparently this single core thing kicks in after i did the benchmark, and it remains throughout the menu, but in racing it actually runs just fine. I don't remember if the single core thing happened in racing back when i posted this thread.
After the benchmark


While racing
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#108 Posted : Saturday, September 23, 2017 12:01:42 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Mechberg Go to Quoted Post
Hi all,

Just following up here, regarding the "one core" issue that made the rounds yesterday. There's been an update to that WCCFTech story with some further clarification from our chief software architect, Chris Tector. Here's the quote:

"Forza Motorsport 7 is not limited to running on one core. There seems to have been a miscommunication along the way. Forza Motorsport 7 uses as many cores as are available on whatever system it runs on, whether that is a 4- to 16-core PC or the 7 cores available on Xbox One.”

Thanks,
Brian


Hi Brian, that update does not help the situation. This has been an issue with Forza on PC since the beginning. This was not fully fixed in Apex, but was fixed in FH3. There needs to be collaboration with the Playground Games team to get the stuttering issue resolved for FM7. This is extremely important. Forza has always been known for its quality frame rate and frame pacing on console. This stuttering on PC is not quality... it's garbage. PC is a superior platform and these optimization issues are unacceptable.

Edited by user Sunday, September 24, 2017 1:23:59 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#109 Posted : Saturday, September 23, 2017 1:19:01 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Mechberg Go to Quoted Post
Hi all,

Just following up here, regarding the "one core" issue that made the rounds yesterday. There's been an update to that WCCFTech story with some further clarification from our chief software architect, Chris Tector. Here's the quote:

"Forza Motorsport 7 is not limited to running on one core. There seems to have been a miscommunication along the way. Forza Motorsport 7 uses as many cores as are available on whatever system it runs on, whether that is a 4- to 16-core PC or the 7 cores available on Xbox One.”

Thanks,
Brian


But this Chris guy is arguing semantics and not fixing the issue. To clarify, the issue is HOW these cores are being used. CPU usage is not optimized as Horizon 3 was. I would like more clarity regarding this issue. It's hard to trust in Turn 10 after so many disappointments on the PC platform. So I remain skeptical until the issue is fixed. We would like Turn 10 to share with us the following info:

- Is the demo based in the final build of the game?
- Will we encounter the same CPU performance issues in a couple of days when the final version of the game is released?
- If the final version of the game has the same issues, are they going to take action and fix them?
- If so, how long would it take?

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#110 Posted : Saturday, September 23, 2017 2:00:45 PM(UTC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4Ajs04bSDs



dynamic render set to ultra, res: 3840x2160 (1680x1050 monitor) , dynamic opt: custom

6800k underclocked to 2.2ghz
32gb ddr 3000
gtx 1070
1tb 950 evo

Edited by user Saturday, September 23, 2017 2:02:23 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#111 Posted : Saturday, September 23, 2017 2:20:57 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: EddieLTU Go to Quoted Post
I've decided to check how's things, and apparently this single core thing kicks in after i did the benchmark, and it remains throughout the menu, but in racing it actually runs just fine. I don't remember if the single core thing happened in racing back when i posted this thread.
After the benchmark


Because you have i3. 2 Core, 4 Threads.
The game in the race loads on i5 really 4-core
Core # 0 - 100%
Core # 1 - 26%
Core # 2 - 70%
Core # 3 - 15%
But stuttering is still going on, albeit rarely. In the menu of stuttering more.

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#112 Posted : Saturday, September 23, 2017 3:28:22 PM(UTC)
I do not have a Highend PC by any means, but it is above average I guess:
AMD 5350 @ 4ghz
16 G or DDR3
R9 290X
EVO 850 SSD
3840x2160

Other than some slight stutters in the menus, the demo runs flawlessly while racing. I think the secret to that is Game Mode is disabled and the DVR is turned off. Those were the tricks we used in Horizon 3 and I turned them off before I even tried the demo.
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#113 Posted : Saturday, September 23, 2017 6:35:29 PM(UTC)
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#114 Posted : Saturday, September 23, 2017 7:14:07 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: toyraceNZ Go to Quoted Post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKeBluYJDVc

Comparison.


Holy **** . Game mode destroys the performance. I never tried it, as soon as I got the update I disabled every thing and all dvr/Xbox options on my pcs.

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#115 Posted : Saturday, September 23, 2017 7:59:45 PM(UTC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgUMk400Kt8

DVR - OFF, Game Mode - OFF, V-sync in NVIDIA Control Panel - OFF.

i5-4690K@4600MHz
16GB DDR3@2400MHz
GTX 980@1400\7000MHz
SSD 256GB (game here)
Resolution 1920x1080@60Hz, Settings Recommended - High...
Windows 10 Pro ver.1703 (15063.608)
GeForce Game Ready Driver 385.69 WHQL
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#116 Posted : Sunday, September 24, 2017 12:02:55 AM(UTC)
'Built from the ground up for PC'.... yet stutters on the best CPUs money can buy. This is hilarious.
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#117 Posted : Sunday, September 24, 2017 12:26:42 AM(UTC)
I hope they know how to fix this issue...
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#118 Posted : Sunday, September 24, 2017 3:18:57 AM(UTC)
Well I wont be buying until I know they have fixed the stutter on PC, what an impression to give putting out a demo that doesn't work.

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#119 Posted : Sunday, September 24, 2017 3:59:44 AM(UTC)
How old is the demo ?
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#120 Posted : Sunday, September 24, 2017 6:48:50 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: FullNietzsche Go to Quoted Post
'Built from the ground up for PC'.... yet stutters on the best CPUs money can buy. This is hilarious.


Works on my 1500 dollar CPU just fine.
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#121 Posted : Sunday, September 24, 2017 9:50:52 AM(UTC)
I had slight stutter a couple of times when I tried the demo with old drivers, but when I updated to the latest Nvidia drivers, the demo ran completely perfect. Apex has always run flawlessly for me and so has Horizon 3 since they were released. I agree there is definitely a problem with these games somewhere, but I'm really curious as to why I have been fairly lucky running these games for the most part.

I7 4790 at 3.6
16 gb ram
Geforce 980 TI
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#122 Posted : Monday, September 25, 2017 10:49:38 AM(UTC)
Running a 6700k with a gtx 1080. Playing on a 1080p Screen with 144hz. Imo everything works fine. The game runs completely smooth in the menues and while on every track. Forza 7 requires to have the creators update. There are still people out there, who don't have this installed! I do not use the gaming mode though.

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#123 Posted : Monday, September 25, 2017 10:54:06 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: ElfVierzehn Go to Quoted Post
Forza 7 requires to have the creators update.

We know. Already covered.

Quote:
There are still people out there, who don't have this installed!

Not anyone having problems with stuttering. Because the game won't work at all without that update.
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#124 Posted : Monday, September 25, 2017 2:58:47 PM(UTC)
Demo build has stutter on collision with other cars. Hopefully this is fixed in Release.
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#125 Posted : Monday, September 25, 2017 9:35:14 PM(UTC)
Finnally had time to test the demo.

more or less smooth with stutter and Drops under braking and collision - ingame menu is stuttering like i havent seen before. Semms i Need a new pc .. will bring it to the garbage after i have finished enjoying pcars 2 on Ultra 2k @~140 FPS stutter free !

Spec below:

I7 7700k @ 5 Ghz
1080ti @ 2.1 Ghz
32 Gb Ram
M2 960 eco 500GB <- where F7 is installed on



there an possible way to still cancel my preorder ?

Edited by user Monday, September 25, 2017 11:48:16 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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