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I turned of the braking line last night and quickly realised the lack of brake markers, distance boards on the track. Now i realise that they have probably just copied what was on the original circuits but this is on a tv so the sense of depth is completely different. On some corners you are approaching fast and there is absolutely no reference point as to brake, so 3 of 5 times your not nailing the apex. Now there is not going to be Forza 8 next year, (which I believe is a good thing, lets get this game were it should be). It would be nice for a few more markes. Putting 50 100 150 200 lines across the track would be good, as these cant get knocked away. Whats your thoughts?

I sometimes struggle with the same. Usually there are markings you can identify from painted track edges and curbs, fences, signs, maybe even a camera station, or whatever. I'm not interested in competition, so more often than not, I just leave the line on just to use as a braking reference (often very wrong, but like braking markers, you have to learn how it applies to YOU), but I try not to look at it for anything other than a braking reference. Keep eyes ahead on key points, and I don't think using the braking line to help replace the loss of "seat of the pants dyno" and loss other natural environmental inputs hurts anything. And it REALLY helps when you are in an unfamiliar car, using an unfamiliar tune, and/or on an unfamiliar ribbon. I just don't have time to learn a track like the pros, or those who spend hours every day on the game...

Edited by user Thursday, October 11, 2018 10:46:34 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Use the environment to your advantage. Shadows, trees, gates, walls and such can help out in picking your braking points.

The lack of braking markers/boards on tracks has been a massive annoyance for me with Forza games. It forces me to use the braking line assist, which is something I would normally turn off in other racing games.

There should be 150 / 100 / 50 metre braking signs at every corner, on every track (the same boards that you get in every single racing series that I have ever watched), and they should at least all be identical and consistent in terms of placement.

Unfortunately this is a ‘git gud’ scenario, I would rather race on the circuits as they are in reality.

git gud

Some tracks are worse than others in this regard.
Monza has distance markers on the major corners at least.
Lime Rock has cones at every corner for turn in, apex, track out points.
Silverstone is seemingly a wasteland of green green grass with no indicators at all. I hate Silverstone for this reason.

Usually I'm able to find *some* reference point. A bridge, curbing, fencing, etc that can be used as a brake reference. Can be hard on some tracks though.