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Tires are the biggest factor, since the stock tires vary greatly between cars there's much difference in behavior between them. It's unfair to pit a GT3 RS with Sport tires against an Audi R8 with Street tires. The upgrade system allows you to replicate actual ownership of the vehicle since, if I had an M4, you can be sure I'd fit wider tires to it. BMW loves to undertire the front end to make the cars "safer" (they started doing this with the M5 E39). Even if you don't have Race suspension you can greatly affect a car's behavior by changing how staggered the tire setup is.

Unfortunately, the AI will never upgrade their cars, so you can't make them all use Sport tires or whatever. The prevalence of homologation in career mode wouldn't be nearly as much of an issue if Free Play was more like what you see in Forza Horizon.

Hi guys!

To this day I can not understand the reason why Turn10 created the HOMOLOGATION device in FM7!

I have been a big fan of the franchise since always and for me it has greatly undermined the fun of the game!

To this day (more than 1 year of FM7) I did not do 50% of the career mode, the size of the discouragement because of HOMOLOGATION.

The most disappointing thing is that HOMOLOGATION is present even in FREE PLAY mode!

If I create a lobby (offline, because I only play alone), and create disputes between cars by division, I can not create a lobby against cars NO ENHANCEMENTS!

It would be very, very nice if Turn10 could "UNLOCK" HOMOLOGATION and allow us to create our lobbys online or offline against the opposing cars we want without the blessed HOMOLOGATON!

I'm sure a simple update can solve this problem.

I'm still waiting for that simple but important solution for the amazing FM7.

A hug!

Division: ANY. Then go into Advanced Restrictions and pick what you want. No homologation here.

The fact we're 1 year into the game's lifespan and there are people still thinking Free Play is homologation-enforced makes me think Turn 10 needs to make those advanced features more apparent.

In career the homologation is enforced, of course. But, with almost 800 cars in the game, it doesn't make sense to let people trivialize it with only one or two cars. It's a game and it's supposed to make you leave your comfort zone from time to time.

Even in Horizon it doesn't work well, because you pick a car in stock form then the matchup pits you against upgraded cars anyway, or even cars superior to yours. So you have to make blueprints for everything you do, which gets old fast.

For a game touted as an open sandbox that lets you play how you want, it isnt "trivializing" to play it how you want. Just because that's how you think the game should be doesnt mean other people think the same way.

The free play menu is a big, complicated dog's breakfast. In previous FM's the menus were very easy to navigate, not anymore they're not. Food for thought......FM3 & 4 were designed for much inferior hardware than we have now. In the quest for cross-platform capability and fancy graphics, have T10 lost sight of or just plain ignored core features and gameplay?

While some classes are just right as they are others are not so. Historic roadracing is one of them, this class is underpowered. B600 would be a better/moore realistic tuning, like max 500hp + raceweight, widest street-tyres++

Edited by user Thursday, October 4, 2018 2:34:19 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

This "category" is underpowered. Should be Class B600, max 500hp(525?)(via biggest cam), raceweight, max tirewidt street-tires, 5sp sport gearbox & racingsuspension. All this to get as close as possible to what these cars actually was good for as roadracers.

On the other hand, this category is overpowered. 500hp max. As it is now it is classics on dope. 580hp in a Ferrari 330 P4? Really?

Although I do not like the homologation scheme, I also do not think the FM4 scheme in PI is ideal, because happens that you can not get the PI number, for example: 578 and opponents go up to 600. Then the player is required to return a class to stay competitive.

That way, I believe the best way would be to adopt the Forza Horizon 3 scheme, where the player rides the championship the way he wants, with the cars he wants, with whatever power he wants, etc he wants. Want to run with MX-5 X999? Go ahead... Want to run with it stock? Be happy... FH3 is like that and works very well.

That's part of the reason Horizon exists in the first place. If you like that setup, then go play that game.

Forza Motorsport is focused on putting specific types of cars together in races. If you don't like the way a car regulation is set up, you can use Free Play to make whatever races you want. But an important part of many motorsports is building the car and trying to squeak out every last bit of advantage you can within the required guidelines of the race. To adopt Horizon's "do whatever you want" attitude would completely remove that aspect.

Are the Car Division in FM7 perfect? Not at all. Many of them don't map very closely to any real-life racing series. However, the idea is solid, it's just the execution that may be lacking.

Edited by user Tuesday, October 9, 2018 4:23:59 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Yes I know. I play both, Horizon and Motorsport, and I like both. I also play career mode and freeplay mode.

Although I agree withyou strong arguments, in my opinion there is an excess of divisions and an excess of restrictions that ends up killing the Forza of how it was, that is, take a car, put in PI that you want, and run for example F40 x Miata x any other random.

One thing that could be solved would be to set an PI limit for that championship (Lambo x Ferrari for example), and let the player adapt the car the way he wants. Or maybe a weight/power ratio for each championship or division, and let the player customize.

I love the new Can-Am 917... but
I can't race it in any of the championships... I think there needs to be some sort of place for it... It is arguably a better car than most of the group 7 monsters that have their own category, and it would be a waste to have a de-tuning.

Honestly, though, it highlights a thing that bothers me a bit about the "prototype group racing" category... a LOT of the category has to be detuned to fit.

Anyway, I think that there needs to be a 'no holds barred' option for open championships.

[Mod Edit - thread merged - MM]

Edited by user Saturday, November 10, 2018 12:16:39 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

The CanAm 917 was the car that ended CanAm. Nothing could stay with it. Have you dropped the turbo on it yet?

I know im bumping a thread up from the grave, but I just bought this game on sale with the promise you could fully customize your cars and tune them. This is a huge let down to me that I can't build my own race car. Don't understand why they took this route and I wish I could email someone about it.