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#1 Posted : Thursday, September 27, 2018 1:37:36 PM(UTC)
Hi,
let keep it short for once:

The Kudosprime Forza Horizon 4 database first sections are online, starting now.
List of all cars ( including Barns Find, be warned)
Full Map with collectibles
2018-10-06: Stats section
2018-11-07: Browse Car Masteries / Perks
The map should now also work on smartphones ;)

As usual, the car database can be used to track the cars you own or play, and the map to track your collectibles.

As always, feedback welcome...
...and enjoy the game!

Edited by user Wednesday, November 7, 2018 9:48:03 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#2 Posted : Thursday, September 27, 2018 1:48:15 PM(UTC)
Bookmarked for later, thanks!
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#3 Posted : Thursday, September 27, 2018 4:01:26 PM(UTC)
Back at it again :)

Still easily one of the best sites around for map and car information in a Forza game! I hope things are going well for you, and I look forward to using your maps to help me with bonus boards once again!
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#4 Posted : Thursday, September 27, 2018 4:10:26 PM(UTC)
Awesome, thanks for sharing, I have a feeling a lot of people will be using this map!
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#5 Posted : Saturday, September 29, 2018 1:55:52 AM(UTC)
The map now have all 200 boards.
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, October 2, 2018 9:33:45 AM(UTC)
I updated the map by separating influence boards (1000,3000,5000) and by adding Homes and beauty spots.
Hovering a home with the cursor shows bonus and price.
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#7 Posted : Saturday, October 6, 2018 4:23:38 AM(UTC)
Hi,
last K' update:
New Stats section, with graphs about:
- Evolution of number of FH4 vs FH3 players
- Speed, Handling... over PI
- Power over PI
- Weight over PI
- Power/Weight over PI

Edited by user Saturday, October 6, 2018 4:25:19 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#8 Posted : Saturday, October 6, 2018 6:07:51 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Milouse Go to Quoted Post
Hi,
last K' update:
New Stats section, with graphs about:
- Evolution of number of FH4 vs FH3 players
- Speed, Handling... over PI
- Power over PI
- Weight over PI
- Power/Weight over PI


Hey thanks for your work, can you explain how you are measuring the number of FH4 players? Which event are you watching, is it mandatory to all players to do that event early on in the game?

Thanks again.
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#9 Posted : Sunday, October 7, 2018 3:25:55 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Lichter67 Go to Quoted Post

Hey thanks for your work, can you explain how you are measuring the number of FH4 players? Which event are you watching, is it mandatory to all players to do that event early on in the game?
Thanks again.

I'm watching several events from both FH3 and FH4. There's a stable mathematical relation between earlier events in the game, with a noticeable loss of players depending of time from the start. The first measurable event in FH4 comes 15 minutes later than FH3, hence the data correction showing higher numbers that what you can read in FH4. leaderboards
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#10 Posted : Sunday, October 7, 2018 3:37:07 PM(UTC)
Nice work. Since the garage limit is still 550 cars I will run out of garage space a lot sooner then I did in FH3.
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, October 24, 2018 11:25:25 PM(UTC)
Wasn't sure where to post this or report the error. Love the database, thanks for it.

With that said, this is listed as a 2015 in game. https://www.kudosprime.c...fh4/car_sheet.php?id=266
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, November 7, 2018 9:45:09 AM(UTC)
Hi,
during the previous weeks, i worked on a whole new section on FH4 K':
Car Masteries / Perks
https://www.kudosprime.com/fh4/perks.php?id=27
This is a new way to browse the Car Masteries of referenced cars (428 so far), and find cars by their perks.

Each car's page also show the car grid; with a button to find other cars with the exact same grid.

Referencing all perks (8 to 16 per car) for those 428 cars has been a considerable work, but because of the diminushing return in that effort, achieving a coverage of 100% of the game cars would require an external contribution.
If you see a car with no Mastery grid on K' (cars with no Triangle after their name on the main list, btw) and want to contribute, you can share an image of that mastery car screen somewhere and a name i would use to credit you.



Anyway, i hope you'll enjoy that new feature.

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#14 Posted : Thursday, November 8, 2018 12:13:09 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Milouse Go to Quoted Post
Hi,
let keep it short for once:

The Kudosprime Forza Horizon 4 database first sections are online, starting now.
List of all cars ( including Barns Find, be warned)
Full Map with collectibles
2018-10-06: Stats section
2018-11-07: Browse Car Masteries / Perks
The map should now also work on smartphones ;)

As usual, the car database can be used to track the cars you own or play, and the map to track your collectibles.

As always, feedback welcome...
...and enjoy the game!


This is stunning work man with some amazing detail. I made my own spread sheets for the skill perks of cars just not in so much detail. I unlocked all the wheelspin and credit perks for all 490 of my cars and just noted which car had what and how many skill points needed to unlock them. This must have taken a lot of time and effort man so great job man. A lot of people including myself will find these very useful.
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#15 Posted : Friday, November 9, 2018 12:22:49 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Milouse Go to Quoted Post
Hi, during the previous weeks, i worked on a whole new section on FH4 K':
This is a new way to browse the Car Masteries of referenced cars (428 so far), and find cars by their perks.

Each car's page also show the car grid; with a button to find other cars with the exact same grid.

Referencing all perks (8 to 16 per car) for those 428 cars has been a considerable work, but because of the diminushing return in that effort, achieving a coverage of 100% of the game cars would require an external contribution.
If you see a car with no Mastery grid on K' (cars with no Triangle after their name on the main list, btw) and want to contribute, you can share an image of that mastery car screen somewhere and a name i would use to credit you.

Anyway, i hope you'll enjoy that new feature.


Many thanks for all the hard work Milouse. It's greatly appreciated. For me, once the main races have been completed, skills and unlocking perks are very important.

On another thread there has been a post on cars which have CR rewards in the Masteries tree which I've found useful.

Cars with money perks
2016 Abarth 695 Biposto money perk 7.5 K ( Purchase price 48,000 )
2007 Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione money perk 300 K ( Purchase price 300,000 )
1968 Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale money perk 30 K ( Purchase price 10,000,000 )
2017 Aston Martin DB11 money perk 200 K ( Purchase price 300,000 )
2017 Aston Martin DB11 Preorder Car money perk 200 K ( Purchase price 300,000 )
2016 Aston Martin Vantage GT12 money perk 200 K ( Purchase price 400,000 )
2016 Aston Martin Vulcan money perk 100 K ( Purchase price 1,500,000 )
2012 Aston Martin Vanquish money perk 200 K ( Purchase price 348,000 )
2010 Aston Martin One-77 money perk 30 K ( Purchase price 1,400,000 )
1964 Aston Martin DB5 money perk 200 K ( Purchase price 800,000 )
2016 Audi R8 V10 Plus money perk 300 K ( Purchase price 242,000 )
1939 Auto Union Typed money perk 100 K ( Purchase price 10,000,000 )
1931 Bentley 4 - 1/2 Liter Supercharged money perk 230 K ( Purchase price 10,000,000 )
1931 Bentley 8-Liter money perk 30 K ( Purchase price 1,500,000 )
1981 BMW M1 money perk 200 K ( Purchase price 585,000 )
1957 BMW Isetta 300 Export money perk 7.5 K ( Purchase price 45,000 )
2018 Bugatti Chiron money perk 30 K ( Purchase price 2,400,000 )
2011 Bugatti Veyron Super Sport money perk 30 K ( Purchase price 2,200,000 )
1992 Bugatti EB110 Super Sport money perk 30 K ( Purchase price 1,700,000 )
1987 Buick Regal GNX money perk 100 K ( Purchase price 130,000 )
2013 Cadillac XTS Limousine money perk 7.5 K ( Purchase price 48,500 )
2013 Caterham Superlight R500 Forza Edition money perk 300 K ( Purchase price 332,000 )
1970 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 money perk 200 K ( Purchase price 310,000 )
1970 Chevrolet EL Camino Super Sport 454 money perk 7.5 K ( Purchase price 65,000 )
1969 Chevrolet Nova Super Sport 396 Forza Edition money perk 30 K ( Purchase price 297,000 )
2018 Dodge Challenger SRT Demon money perk 200 K ( Purchase price 150,000 )
2013 Ferrari LaFerrari money perk 30 K ( Purchase price 1,500,000 )
2012 Ferrari F12Berlinetta money perk 200 K ( Purchase price 380,000 )
1984 Ferrari 288 GTO money perk 100 K ( Purchase price 3,100,000 )
1968 Ferrari 365 GTB/4 money perk 200 K ( Purchase price 600,000 )
1967 Ferrari #24 Ferrari Spa 330 P4 money perk 100 K ( Purchase price 10,000,000 )
1962 Ferrari 250 GTO money perk 100 K ( Purchase price 10,000,000 )
1957 Ferrari 250 California money perk 30 K ( Purchase price 8,000,000 )
1953 Ferrari 500 Mondial money perk 100 K ( Purchase price 1,000,000 )
2018 Ford Mustang GT Deberti Design money perk 200 K ( Purchase price 0 )
2005 Ford GT money perk 200 K ( Purchase price 300,000 )
1972 Ford Falcon XA GT- **** Forza Edition money perk 30 K ( Purchase price 330,000 )
1969 Ford Mustang Boss 302 money perk 300 K ( Purchase price 230,000 )
1966 Ford Lotus Cortina money perk 7.5 K ( Purchase price 50,000 )
2016 Formula Drift #530 HSV Maloo Gen-F money perk 300 K ( Purchase price 300,000 )
2015 Formula Drift #13 Ford Mustang money perk 300 K ( Purchase price 300,000 )
2006 Formula Drift #43 Dodge Viper SRT10 money perk 300 K ( Purchase price 300,000 )
1997 Formula Drift #777 Nissan 240SX money perk 300 K ( Purchase price 300,000 )
1996 Formula Drift #232 Nissan 240SX money perk 300 K ( Purchase price 300,000 )
1995 Formula Drift #118 Nissan 240SX money perk 300 K ( Purchase price 300,000 )
1989 Formula Drift #98 BMW 3251 money perk 300 K ( Purchase price 300,000 )
2018 Honda Civic Type R money perk 7.5 K ( Purchase price 59,000 )
2005 Honda NSX-R money perk 300 K ( Purchase price 150,000 )
1991 Hoonigan Rauh-Welt Begriff Porsche 911 Turbo money perk 300 K ( Purchase price 160,000 )
1972 Hoonigan Chevrolet Napalm Nova money perk 7.5 K ( Purchase price 50,000 )
2015 Jaguar XKR-S GT money perk 300 K ( Purchase price 190,000 )
1993 Jaguar XJ220 money perk 100 K ( Purchase price 350,000 )
1964 Jaguar Lightweight E-Type money perk 100 K ( Purchase price 10,000,000 )
2008 James Bond Edition Aston Martin DBS money perk 200 K ( Purchase price 325,000 )
2017 Koenigsegg Agera RS money perk 30 K ( Purchase price 0 )
2011 Koenigsegg Agera money perk 30 K ( Purchase price 1,500,000 )
2016 Lamborghini Aventador LP750-4 SV money perk 300 K ( Purchase price 480,000 )
2012 Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4 money perk 200 K ( Purchase price 310,000 )
2012 Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4 Forza Edition money perk 30 K ( Purchase price 560,000 )
2011 Lamborghini Sesto Elemento money perk 30 K ( Purchase price 2,500,000 )
2010 Lamborghini Murcielago LP 670-4 SV money perk 300 K ( Purchase price 500,000 )
1961 Maserati Tipo 61 Birdcage money perk 100 K ( Purchase price 2,400,000 )
1957 Maserati 300S (skill perk Maserati MC12 FE) money perk 0 K ( Purchase price 6,000,000 )
2015 McLaren 650S Coupe money perk 200 K ( Purchase price 420,000 )
1993 McLaren F1 money perk 30 K ( Purchase price 2,000,000 )
2013 Mercedes-Benz A 45 AMG money perk 7.5 K ( Purchase price 65,000 )
2009 Mercedes-Benz SL 65 AMG Black Series money perk 300 K ( Purchase price 210,000 )
2009 Mercedes-Benz SL 65 AMG Black Series Forza Edition money perk 300 K ( Purchase price 460,000 )
1954 Mercedes-Benz 300 SL Coupe money perk 30 K ( Purchase price 1,200,000 )
1966 MG MGB GT money perk 300 K ( Purchase price 30,000 )
2014 Morgan 3 Wheeler money perk 7.5 K ( Purchase price 50,000 )
1973 Nissan Skyline H/T 2000GT-R money perk 300 K ( Purchase price 170,000 )
1969 Nissan Fairlady Z 432 money perk 300 K ( Purchase price 150,000 )
2010 Noble M600 money perk 200 K ( Purchase price 450,000 )
2009 Pagani Zonda Cinque Roadster money perk 30 K ( Purchase price 2,100,000 )
2018 Porsche 911 GT2 RS money perk 300 K ( Purchase price 315,000 )
2014 Porsche 918 Spyder money perk 200 K ( Purchase price 850,000 )
2012 Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4 money perk 330 K ( Purchase price 200,000 )
2003 Porsche Carrera GT money perk 200 K ( Purchase price 400,000 )
1982 Porsche 911 Turbo 3.3 money perk 300 K ( Purchase price 150,000 )
1957 Porsche 356A Speedster money perk 200 K ( Purchase price 300,000 )
1955 Porsche 550A Spyder money perk 200 K ( Purchase price 600,000 )
2004 Saleen S7 money perk 300 K ( Purchase price 388,000 )
1965 Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe money perk 100 K ( Purchase price 8,000,000 )
1998 Subaru Impreza 22B STI money perk 30 K ( Purchase price 110,000 )
1962 Triumph Spitfire money perk 200 K ( Purchase price 20,000 )
1998 TVR Cerbera Speed 12 money perk 30 K ( Purchase price 500,000 )
2011 Volkswagen Scirocco R money perk 7.5 K ( Purchase price 45,000 )
1963 Volkswagen Type 2 De Luxe money perk 7.5 K ( Purchase price 40,000 )
1963 Volkswagen Type 2 De Luxe Forza Edition money perk 30 K ( Purchase price 290,000 )
2016 W Motors Lykan Hypersport money perk 30 K ( Purchase price 3,400,000 )
2016 Zenvo ST1 money perk 30 K ( Purchase price 1,000,000 )

Cars with FE car unlock perk
Lamborghini Miura --> Lamborghini Reventon FE
Maserati 300S --> Maserati MC12 FE
Mercedes Benz 300SL --> Mercedes SL65 AMG FE
Nissan R390 --> Nissan GTR LM FE
TVR Sagaris --> TVR Sagaris FE

Edited by user Saturday, November 10, 2018 8:58:51 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#16 Posted : Friday, November 9, 2018 7:46:47 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: eXoticYamaHaR1 Go to Quoted Post

This is stunning work man with some amazing detail. I made my own spread sheets for the skill perks of cars just not in so much detail. I unlocked all the wheelspin and credit perks for all 490 of my cars and just noted which car had what and how many skill points needed to unlock them. This must have taken a lot of time and effort man so great job man. A lot of people including myself will find these very useful.

Thank you :)
I milked all my cars too (my garage shows 490 right now, but i sold/destroyed a few dozens)
I can't refrain to take several pics of the cars to post on K' each time, so that took a loooooooooooooooong time.
But i quite enjoy it, actualy :)
It even lead to an answer as to why are rabbit crossing the road in front of cars?

Because they don't see cars, only road:
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#17 Posted : Friday, November 9, 2018 11:33:13 AM(UTC)
Very nice and useful page!

One question/request, would it be possible for you to make a filter where the list only shows cars that is wheelspin exclusive? Like the Cadillac Limo, MB E63 AMG etc?
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#18 Posted : Friday, November 9, 2018 1:25:07 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: capimeeen Go to Quoted Post
Very nice and useful page!

One question/request, would it be possible for you to make a filter where the list only shows cars that is wheelspin exclusive? Like the Cadillac Limo, MB E63 AMG etc?


I'm not 100% sure if this is what you want, but that would be already here, and the point of the Perks section:
Select Wheelspin in the perk list (left of the screen on computer, in the Perk Tab on mobile device) and it shows all grids that have that perk, here a Wheelspin. Clicking in the top line as indicated by a text will list all cars whith Wheelspin (majority of the cars, it just listed 433 on K')

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#19 Posted : Friday, November 9, 2018 1:46:14 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Milouse Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: capimeeen Go to Quoted Post
Very nice and useful page!

One question/request, would it be possible for you to make a filter where the list only shows cars that is wheelspin exclusive? Like the Cadillac Limo, MB E63 AMG etc?


I'm not 100% sure if this is what you want, but that would be already here, and the point of the Perks section:
Select Wheelspin in the perk list (left of the screen on computer, in the Perk Tab on mobile device) and it shows all grids that have that perk, here a Wheelspin. Clicking in the top line as indicated by a text will list all cars whith Wheelspin (majority of the cars, it just listed 433 on K')



No, I mean that in FH4 there is a number of cars that can ONLY be gotten by winning it in a wheelspin/super wheelspin. It can not be bought through the Autoshow.

They CAN be bought through Auction House obviously, but most of them are never for sale, and if they are they usually go for insane prices, like the 2018 Cayenne which I've seen go for 20 million.

Some of the cars are the Austin Taxicab, Cadillac Limousine, Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG, 2018 Porsche Cayenne etc..
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#20 Posted : Saturday, November 10, 2018 8:17:04 AM(UTC)
The cars with money rewards, especially 200K and 300K, can be quite lucrative. I've just bought 4 quite nice cars and unlocked 7 skill perks in each one. I had expected my money to reduce but instead it has increased by over 2 million. For these the Autoshow is better than the Auction House since you can be certain that the perks have not already been unlocked.

A couple of examples:
2007 Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione cost 300,000 but reward 300K so net cost is NIL
2016 Audi R8 V10 Plus cost 242,000 but reward 300K so net cost is minus 58K
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#21 Posted : Saturday, November 10, 2018 8:30:11 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: msb247 Go to Quoted Post
The cars with money rewards, especially 200K and 300K, can be quite lucrative. I've just bought 4 quite nice cars and unlocked 7 skill perks in each one. I had expected my money to reduce but instead it has increased by over 2 million. For these the Autoshow is better than the Auction House since you can be certain that the perks have not already been unlocked.

A couple of examples:
2007 Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione cost 300,000 but reward 300K so net cost is NIL
2016 Audi R8 V10 Plus cost 242,000 but reward 300K so net cost is minus 58K


From my experience, the 1969 Nissan Fairlady Z and the 1982 Porsche 911 have the highest profit from this method at 150k each.

1939 Mercedes-Benz T80 (Cancelled via WWII) - 3000hp 44.5L V12 - 470mph (Projected)
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#22 Posted : Saturday, November 10, 2018 8:46:18 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: TDM SilverArrow Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: msb247 Go to Quoted Post
The cars with money rewards, especially 200K and 300K, can be quite lucrative. I've just bought 4 quite nice cars and unlocked 7 skill perks in each one. I had expected my money to reduce but instead it has increased by over 2 million. For these the Autoshow is better than the Auction House since you can be certain that the perks have not already been unlocked.

A couple of examples:
2007 Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione cost 300,000 but reward 300K so net cost is NIL
2016 Audi R8 V10 Plus cost 242,000 but reward 300K so net cost is minus 58K


From my experience, the 1969 Nissan Fairlady Z and the 1982 Porsche 911 have the highest profit from this method at 150k each.


Yes it could well be. I intend purchasing most of the cars with 200K and 300K rewards so I started in alphabetical order. Bought 2 Aston Martins in addition to the the Alfa and Audi and for once I was probably a bit lucky on the wheelspins.
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#23 Posted : Saturday, November 10, 2018 12:23:53 PM(UTC)
Great list. Since Forza Hub has 400pts (50 cars) dedicated to car mastery, it would be best for everyone to focus on cars with only 8 masteries to make it easier to complete this. Although it's annoying that one of the masteries costs 25 skill pts.
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#24 Posted : Monday, November 12, 2018 4:31:17 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: capimeeen Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Milouse Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: capimeeen Go to Quoted Post
Very nice and useful page!

One question/request, would it be possible for you to make a filter where the list only shows cars that is wheelspin exclusive? Like the Cadillac Limo, MB E63 AMG etc?


I'm not 100% sure if this is what you want, but that would be already here, and the point of the Perks section:
Select Wheelspin in the perk list (left of the screen on computer, in the Perk Tab on mobile device) and it shows all grids that have that perk, here a Wheelspin. Clicking in the top line as indicated by a text will list all cars whith Wheelspin (majority of the cars, it just listed 433 on K')



No, I mean that in FH4 there is a number of cars that can ONLY be gotten by winning it in a wheelspin/super wheelspin. It can not be bought through the Autoshow.

They CAN be bought through Auction House obviously, but most of them are never for sale, and if they are they usually go for insane prices, like the 2018 Cayenne which I've seen go for 20 million.

Some of the cars are the Austin Taxicab, Cadillac Limousine, Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG, 2018 Porsche Cayenne etc..


Oh, ok, sorry.
It would be good to have this on K' indeed
...but...
I made this on Forza 7, and given the lack of reliability of those data, especially over time as availability rules are subject to changes, i decided to remove that from the Forza Horizon 4 database.
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#25 Posted : Tuesday, November 13, 2018 3:01:08 PM(UTC)
Thank you!!! This is so much better than the Reddit version.
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