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#1 Posted : Friday, June 15, 2018 7:53:12 PM(UTC)
Is there any word on whether FH4 will require gold? Mine expires in August and while I probably re up at some point, the thought of ownership and use of a game being tied to the gold service wouldn't be good.

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#2 Posted : Friday, June 15, 2018 8:22:13 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Kdogg788 Go to Quoted Post
Is there any word on whether FH4 will require gold? Mine expires in August and while I probably re up at some point, the thought of ownership and use of a game being tied to the gold service wouldn't be good.

-k


If you want to play multiplayer on xbox of course you would require gold just like every other game on the xbox
On PC you dont

Not sure how ownership and use of the game would require gold since you can play offline

If you are talking about game pass you dont own the game anyway...it's like renting

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#3 Posted : Friday, June 15, 2018 8:30:07 PM(UTC)
I'm talking abut being able to enter the game and play at all. Does the base game require gold? I would most likely be buying a physical copy and spending 99% of my time solo.

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#4 Posted : Friday, June 15, 2018 8:31:21 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Kdogg788 Go to Quoted Post
I'm talking abut being able to enter the game and play at all. Does the base game require gold? I would most likely be buying a physical copy and spending 99% of my time solo.

-k


No
Gold is ONLY required for multiplayer..same as every other xbox game
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#5 Posted : Friday, June 15, 2018 8:34:50 PM(UTC)
Ok good. I'm hearing rumors that Fallout 76 will require it so it's good to know Forza isn't so heavy handed. You don't even need it with Elite Dangerous.

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#6 Posted : Friday, June 15, 2018 8:37:40 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Kdogg788 Go to Quoted Post
Ok good. I'm hearing rumors that Fallout 76 will require it so it's good to know Forza isn't so heavy handed. You don't even need it with Elite Dangerous.

-k


There's a difference between xbox live and having xbox live gold
Isnt fallout 76 just required to be online..you dont need gold to be online
Same as The Crew..always online..dont need gold though

But its been stated a few times in different threads that you can play offline by yourself with drivatars

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#7 Posted : Tuesday, June 26, 2018 2:01:00 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: talby71 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Kdogg788 Go to Quoted Post
Ok good. I'm hearing rumors that Fallout 76 will require it so it's good to know Forza isn't so heavy handed. You don't even need it with Elite Dangerous.

-k


There's a difference between xbox live and having xbox live gold
Isnt fallout 76 just required to be online..you dont need gold to be online
Same as The Crew..always online..dont need gold though

But its been stated a few times in different threads that you can play offline by yourself with drivatars


Does a shared world require a Xbox Gold Live?
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, June 26, 2018 3:34:49 AM(UTC)
From what I hear you will at least need internet and the basic Xbox Live. Both Horizon 4 and Fallout 76 haven’t elaborated much on this and whether you will need Gold on top of the basic connection to the service.

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#9 Posted : Tuesday, June 26, 2018 8:49:01 AM(UTC)
It is confirmed that FH4 can be played in offline mode just like previous titles, So gold won't be needed there. As for the basic Shared world aspect, I don't think there is any official world on that.
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, June 26, 2018 9:55:06 AM(UTC)
I can’t imagine any game that requires Gold to play it would go over too well with the general public.

Mandatory online isn’t unheard of but at least you don’t need to pay for it, just have a general non gold live account which is free.

All indicators would point to FH4 requiring none of these, which is great because I ❤️ Offline. 😁

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#11 Posted : Tuesday, June 26, 2018 7:40:38 PM(UTC)
Yeah I’d rather play solo exploring the map and races on my own terms without maniacs smashing everyone off the road.

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#12 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2018 6:45:35 AM(UTC)
I'm just wondering what part of 'offline' makes anyone think gold would be required.

The game works solo, and I'm sure like every other get, you don't even need to be connected to the internet to play. You just wouldn't have rewards tracked or get updates if you played off the grid.
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#13 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2018 9:19:41 AM(UTC)
Hey guys,

So you will need gold in order to play online on the Xbox. PC does not require you to have a gold membership. However, you wont be experiencing any "maniacs smashing everyone off the road" as everyone is ghosted. If you group up in a convoy, do any pvp races, and the like, you wont be ghosted. Just driving around online will not result in you being crashed into or rammed off the road.

Here is a great video that explains it all https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSe-0sD0Is8

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#14 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2018 9:42:09 AM(UTC)
Specific followup questions for console players:

Are there any collectible assets (cars, apparel, emotes, car horns, etc) that will only be available via online/Gold?

Do Photo/Livery contest rewards and any potential gifts (such as cars or apparel given out around holidays in the past) received from Turn 10 via Message Center require Gold?
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#15 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2018 1:52:59 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Nitro Glitter Go to Quoted Post
Hey guys,

So you will need gold in order to play online on the Xbox. PC does not require you to have a gold membership. However, you wont be experiencing any "maniacs smashing everyone off the road" as everyone is ghosted. If you group up in a convoy, do any pvp races, and the like, you wont be ghosted. Just driving around online will not result in you being crashed into or rammed off the road.

Here is a great video that explains it all https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSe-0sD0Is8


There's something not answered.
Does a SHARED-OPEN WORLD require Xbox Gold Live Membership?
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#16 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2018 3:29:00 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: flotie9839 Go to Quoted Post

There's something not answered.
Does a SHARED-OPEN WORLD require Xbox Gold Live Membership?


If you can see other real players, then yes. That's how multiplayer works.

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#17 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2018 4:53:44 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Nitro Glitter Go to Quoted Post
Hey guys,

So you will need gold in order to play online on the Xbox. PC does not require you to have a gold membership. However, you wont be experiencing any "maniacs smashing everyone off the road" as everyone is ghosted. If you group up in a convoy, do any pvp races, and the like, you wont be ghosted. Just driving around online will not result in you being crashed into or rammed off the road.

Here is a great video that explains it all https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSe-0sD0Is8


Not good news as I believe there are ForzaThon events that multiple players to complete running Hourly some times Now how do People who don't have gold get to do all ForzaThon. Is no skin of my nose as I have had Gold for well over 10 years and do not pay for it but many do pony up the cash for it and others can not afford to pay for it. A lot of this game is designed for a Internet connection to get the most out of it this decision may well result in a loss of sales,
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#18 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2018 5:12:10 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: DarkraiSpeed Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: flotie9839 Go to Quoted Post

There's something not answered.
Does a SHARED-OPEN WORLD require Xbox Gold Live Membership?


If you can see other real players, then yes. That's how multiplayer works.



I don't believe that is true but as have had Gold for over 10 years is a question I would not have a problem with But I have looked at several game requirements that are online open world and only a couple of them stated Xbox Gold Required to play, the rest just said Internet connection and signed in to your Microsoft account no mention of gold at all or Xbox Live at all.


And to be honest I think taking a game that has been playable in offline mode for over10 years and making it a mainly ONLINE Game just sucks. Some how They managed to get it backwards what was wrong with the current format where you can select to go in to Online Mode via Free Roam Or CO-OP .

Why do Game designer think we all what to be playing On Line all the time

And a suggestion Put the exact requirements in the Game Description for Xbox and For PC. The words Requires a internet connection just don't cut it if the game requires gold to get the most out of it.

and just how much content will require Gold to complete????
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#19 Posted : Friday, June 29, 2018 2:02:36 AM(UTC)
Am I right in saying that the auction house requires Gold membership too?

If a Forzathon requirement is to, say for instance, complete 10 playground games, then yes, Gold membership will be needed to complete the Forzathon content. Also, there will undoubtedly be online achievements, as there have been in pretty much any Forza game I've played before, so Gold will be required to get these too. If you want to play online, you need Gold, if you want to play solo, you don't. "Requires internet access" probably means that you won't be able to get ALL of the game without it, as you can only fit 50Gb on a single Blu-Ray disc, and of course, your progress with Forza rewards won't track, and you won't be able to download any prize cars or gifted credits, or participate in Rivals challenges.
I could agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong
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#20 Posted : Friday, June 29, 2018 4:30:40 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Alan J T Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: DarkraiSpeed Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: flotie9839 Go to Quoted Post

There's something not answered.
Does a SHARED-OPEN WORLD require Xbox Gold Live Membership?


If you can see other real players, then yes. That's how multiplayer works.

I don't believe that is true ...I have looked at several game requirements that are online open world and only a couple of them stated Xbox Gold Required to play, the rest just said Internet connection and signed in to your Microsoft account no mention of gold at all or Xbox Live at all.


It depends on what exactly is meant by "online open world". Dark Souls is technically an "online open world", but only in the sense that you can read messages other players have left in the world. If you want the multiplayer features (like someone else joining your game and helping or raiding you), you must have an Xbox Live Gold account. Same with games like NFS Rivals, which is an open world with leaderboards and challenges set by other players, but you don't actively race against other players in real time, just ghosts and time trials.

Games like Titanfall (the original), Star Wars Battlefront (2015) and Fallout 76 can only be played in a PvP setting, meaning the game will technically boot up and start, but they alert you that a Gold membership is required to actually enter the game and play,

TLDR: DarkraiSpeed is correct. If you interact directly with players, that requires Xbox Live Gold.

This is exactly why Turn10 came up with the Drivatar system. Its goal was to simulate the behavior of real drivers so that your experience offline would mimic real multiplayer as much as possible. Whether the system itself is successful is another debate :P (a long and ardusous debate lol)

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#21 Posted : Friday, June 29, 2018 4:56:37 AM(UTC)
God i hate Online-Needed to complete the game.
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#22 Posted : Friday, June 29, 2018 10:14:00 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: ManteoMax Go to Quoted Post
Specific followup questions for console players:

Are there any collectible assets (cars, apparel, emotes, car horns, etc) that will only be available via online/Gold?

Do Photo/Livery contest rewards and any potential gifts (such as cars or apparel given out around holidays in the past) received from Turn 10 via Message Center require Gold?


I was hoping you would at least get a response Like I have said it dose not Bother me as Have gold and have had It for years and also have a permeant high speed internet connection but many don't and they do deserve to know before buying the game, Personally I think it is a daft move. Lets hope that all them Hourly ForzaThon are for creds and XP only and you can block messages from non friends in the game.

Nothing more annoying than some **** spamming you with messages all the time who is not in your friends list.
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#23 Posted : Saturday, June 30, 2018 1:56:45 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: flotie9839 Go to Quoted Post
God i hate Online-Needed to complete the game.


It doesn't take too much effort to get gold for free
Microsoft rewards
There's another thread about that though...
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#24 Posted : Thursday, July 5, 2018 12:36:12 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: ManteoMax Go to Quoted Post
Specific followup questions for console players:

Are there any collectible assets (cars, apparel, emotes, car horns, etc) that will only be available via online/Gold?

Do Photo/Livery contest rewards and any potential gifts (such as cars or apparel given out around holidays in the past) received from Turn 10 via Message Center require Gold?


1. No, but you need to have an internet connection to receive some items or updates.
2. No, gold is not required to receive gifts or messages in game. You only need an internet connection in order for us to send them to you.


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#25 Posted : Thursday, July 5, 2018 12:38:32 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: DarkraiSpeed Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: flotie9839 Go to Quoted Post

There's something not answered.
Does a SHARED-OPEN WORLD require Xbox Gold Live Membership?


If you can see other real players, then yes. That's how multiplayer works.



That is correct. You need Gold in order to play with others on line (XBOX) as this is considered "multiplayer". However you can play the game completely offline if you prefer. You can also participate in Multiplayer activities if anyone on your xbox as gold already, or if you are playing on PC. PC Players do not need gold in order to play Multiplayer but you do need an internet connection. (SHARED-OPEN WORLD)

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