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#1 Posted : Saturday, September 30, 2017 9:57:40 AM(UTC)
Hi,
i've just set live the first version of the Forza 7 Kudosprime Database.

Cars List : List, filter and sort Forza 7 cars by stats and specs. Image for every cars, Forza Edition perks infos, and an interactive marker to track the cars you already drove - because you want to try them all, right? - or as the car you own in the game.
We still can add our own in-game photos to each car.

Stats graphs
- Graphic overviews of Forza 7 Cars: select a preset criteria (ex: speed over PI) and see all cars in one simple graphic. Hover the graphic to see car names or click a dot to see the car page.
- Historic graphic of Forza 7 players against Forza 6 players.

Prize Cars Update 3
List of cars that can be won, and how to won them.

This is a first version with (570 cars) Edit: now 724, as the new game structure doesn't help me to get access to much data right know. I currently don't know what strategy to take after this step - i spent almost all my last two days in menus so far, and barely played the game itself.

I also still need to add some filters and informations (like Forza Edition infos). Done

I'll be back, but you can still give feedback.
Milouse

ps: K' is designed and coded specifically for the few games it covers. It requires dedication and time. If you want to support this effort, you can share K' address (https://www.kudosprime.com).

Edited by user Tuesday, November 7, 2017 5:07:03 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#2 Posted : Saturday, September 30, 2017 12:52:37 PM(UTC)
I think PI's you have listed are the game's default homologation setups.
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#3 Posted : Saturday, September 30, 2017 7:45:00 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: JMJRulz Go to Quoted Post
I think PI's you have listed are the game's default homologation setups.


Yes, they are indeed, as stated in the message on top of the car list (there's a lot of text above, so i can understand one can miss it).
It's the state of the cars in which most players will likely get and drive the car in.
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#4 Posted : Sunday, October 1, 2017 4:37:19 PM(UTC)
Thank you for all you do milouse. Kudos prime is always super helpful. One recommendation, you should be able to see all available cars by going to the the rental screen , including cars locked from showcases and random horizon addition. If possible I would also recommend listing whether or not cars can be purchased versus only gotten from showcases or only from the speciality dealer. Although I understand that must be pretty difficult to keep track of this early in the game. If there's anything I can do to help data collection let me know.
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#5 Posted : Monday, October 2, 2017 5:00:06 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: HIR0PR0TAGON1ST Go to Quoted Post
you should be able to see all available cars by going to the the rental screen , including cars locked from showcases and random horizon addition. If possible I would also recommend listing whether or not cars can be purchased versus only gotten from showcases or only from the speciality dealer. Although I understand that must be pretty difficult to keep track of this early in the game.


Thank you, i've been so focus to make the Forza 7 section in a so short period of time that i must have been blind when checking the rental menu. You just saved me a lot of headaches.

I plan to find a solution to present cars not available for purchase in a more informative way, but still debating with myself to get an elegant solution since the car entries in the cars list is overcrowd already.

Originally Posted by: HIR0PR0TAGON1ST Go to Quoted Post
If there's anything I can do to help data collection let me know.

You just did :D

Edited by user Monday, October 2, 2017 5:06:32 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#6 Posted : Monday, October 2, 2017 5:55:34 AM(UTC)
You can also access the locked (hidden) cars by going through the paint menu. Click on the car icon, far right, then select "all cars" from the menu. It will show all the cars in the game, at this time., including the hidden. "Y" will toggle the stats of each car.

Thanks for all your hard work, I use K's frequently when building a series.
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#7 Posted : Monday, October 2, 2017 6:42:07 AM(UTC)
I know it's an old Civic, but aren't 3 HP too few? :p

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#8 Posted : Monday, October 2, 2017 8:35:39 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: BabySeal363 Go to Quoted Post
I know it's an old Civic, but aren't 3 HP too few? :p


I'm not that surprised, some of "14" characters in values have been deleted, and i missed the HP check. Two other cars needed a fix.
Thanks for pointing that to me :)

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#9 Posted : Tuesday, October 3, 2017 6:51:43 AM(UTC)
Update 2:

1. The car database rose to 724 cars.
Shouldn't be 727? :D I'll investigate this.

2. Tier filter in main cars list: through filter menu, or by clicking on the colored number (Tier) on the left of each car to list its tier-sibblings.

3. Forza Edition: a patch appears on FE cars in the main cars list.

4. Next to each car price, i added a Collector Score, 100 being the highest (right now). The higher the score is, the better you get collector value per Credit spent when buying a car.
Here's a link to the list ordered by Collector Score:
http://www.kudosprime.co...carlist.php?order=col_pc

Edited by user Tuesday, October 3, 2017 6:54:16 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#10 Posted : Thursday, October 5, 2017 7:18:01 AM(UTC)
Update 3:

1. New section : Rewards
This lists all car prizes, with their "how to obtain".
http://www.kudosprime.com/f7/rewards.php

2. The main car list now help to distinguish between car sources : buying, prize, Loot, Special dealership.

Several small fixes.
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#11 Posted : Saturday, October 7, 2017 9:21:26 AM(UTC)
It will not let me save what cars are in my garage. The key does not work.
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#12 Posted : Saturday, October 7, 2017 11:52:15 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: EspritDesir3 Go to Quoted Post
It will not let me save what cars are in my garage. The key does not work.


Are you sure you are account connected (please refresh the page once to be certain of it).
If the problem still occurs, could you tell more about your device and browser?
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#13 Posted : Saturday, October 7, 2017 2:31:40 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Milouse Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: EspritDesir3 Go to Quoted Post
It will not let me save what cars are in my garage. The key does not work.


Are you sure you are account connected (please refresh the page once to be certain of it).
If the problem still occurs, could you tell more about your device and browser?


Account is connected. spiritdesire is the account. Problem occurs on dell inspiron 15, with opera browser.
edit: also does not work on chrome.

Edited by user Saturday, October 7, 2017 3:15:40 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#14 Posted : Sunday, October 8, 2017 6:53:39 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: EspritDesir3 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Milouse Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: EspritDesir3 Go to Quoted Post
Account is connected. spiritdesire is the account. Problem occurs on dell inspiron 15, with opera browser.
edit: also does not work on chrome.


Are you sure you are account connected (please refresh the page once to be certain of it).
If the problem still occurs, could you tell more about your device and browser?


Account is connected. spiritdesire is the account. Problem occurs on dell inspiron 15, with opera browser.
edit: also does not work on chrome.


Thanks for the infos.
I'll pass on Opera, i don't support it for years.
But Chrome problem is abnormal, it's my main browser. Unless your javascript is turned off. I'll investigate the server, but if it's a browser level problem, i won't see anything.
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#15 Posted : Sunday, October 8, 2017 3:16:43 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Milouse Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: EspritDesir3 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Milouse Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: EspritDesir3 Go to Quoted Post
Account is connected. spiritdesire is the account. Problem occurs on dell inspiron 15, with opera browser.
edit: also does not work on chrome.


Are you sure you are account connected (please refresh the page once to be certain of it).
If the problem still occurs, could you tell more about your device and browser?


Account is connected. spiritdesire is the account. Problem occurs on dell inspiron 15, with opera browser.
edit: also does not work on chrome.


Thanks for the infos.
I'll pass on Opera, i don't support it for years.
But Chrome problem is abnormal, it's my main browser. Unless your javascript is turned off. I'll investigate the server, but if it's a browser level problem, i won't see anything.


I've tried javascript turning on on both, and still a no. I would like to use it, but if I can't get it to work, I'll have to pass. Seems to have worked fine before.
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#16 Posted : Sunday, October 8, 2017 5:25:56 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: EspritDesir3 Go to Quoted Post

I've tried javascript turning on on both, and still a no. I would like to use it, but if I can't get it to work, I'll have to pass. Seems to have worked fine before.

I don't want to waste your time, so if you feel it's worth it:
0. Be sure to be in https mode in the url (in case your pc is over protective): https://www.kudosprime.com/f7/carlist.php
1. In google Chrome, do Control+Shift+J when on K' carlist. This opens the Chrome developer console, where errors are shown.
2. reload the page. If you see a message in red, you can copy-paste it to me. (red are breaking code problems, other messages are not of interest here)
3. If you got no red message at step 2, you can click on a car's key and see if a red message pop then.
4. In other case of a server error (like you're not connected for some reason, you should see a red message at the top of the screen instead of a green one, once a key icon is pressed)

If still no error message, then i would put my two cents on an add-on related problem. Add-ons are off in Chrome private mode.
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#17 Posted : Monday, October 9, 2017 12:05:09 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Milouse Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: EspritDesir3 Go to Quoted Post

I've tried javascript turning on on both, and still a no. I would like to use it, but if I can't get it to work, I'll have to pass. Seems to have worked fine before.

I don't want to waste your time, so if you feel it's worth it:
0. Be sure to be in https mode in the url (in case your pc is over protective): https://www.kudosprime.com/f7/carlist.php
1. In google Chrome, do Control+Shift+J when on K' carlist. This opens the Chrome developer console, where errors are shown.
2. reload the page. If you see a message in red, you can copy-paste it to me. (red are breaking code problems, other messages are not of interest here)
3. If you got no red message at step 2, you can click on a car's key and see if a red message pop then.
4. In other case of a server error (like you're not connected for some reason, you should see a red message at the top of the screen instead of a green one, once a key icon is pressed)

If still no error message, then i would put my two cents on an add-on related problem. Add-ons are off in Chrome private mode.


I have two error messages. Running chrome and opera give the same messages too.
abg.js:1 Uncaught undefined
Failed to load '' as a plugin, because the frame into which the plugin is loading is sandboxed.
(anonymous) @ bc.js:24
f @ bc.js:24
G @ bc.js:29
b @ bc.js:23
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#18 Posted : Monday, October 9, 2017 7:38:47 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: EspritDesir3 Go to Quoted Post

abg.js:1 Uncaught undefined

After some research, it seems to be google ads related.
Do you see something on your system that could interfere with goggle ads?

Edited by user Tuesday, October 10, 2017 3:48:30 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#19 Posted : Thursday, October 12, 2017 12:05:39 AM(UTC)
Great database. Thank you for all your hard work.

You are no doubt aware that Turn 10 have recently amended the bonuses associated with Forza Edition Cars.

I think these are now:

Year,Make,Model,VIP,Primary CR,Secondary CR,Secondary CR Criteria
2017,Acura,NSX Forza Edition,,40%,40%,Dubai
2014,BMW,M4 Coupe Forza Edition,VIP,50%,50%,Nurburgring
1997,BMW,M3 Forza Edition,,20%,20%,3 Good Drifts
2016,Cadillac,ATS-V Forza Edition,,30%,30%,VIR
2017,Chevrolet,Camaro ZL1 Forza Edition,,40%,40%,Road Atlanta
2015,Chevrolet,Corvette Z06 Forza Edition,,30%,30%,Circuit of the Americas
2014,Chevrolet,Super Sport Forza Edition,,30%,30%,Sonoma
1988,Chevrolet,Monte Carlo Super Sport Forza Edition,,40%,40%,Watkins Glen
1970,Chevrolet,Chevelle Super Sport 454 Forza Edition,,35%,35%,150 mph
1969,Chevrolet,Camaro Super Sport Coupe Forza Edition,VIP,50%,50%,150 mph
1964,Chevrolet,Impala Super Sport 409 Forza Edition,,25%,25%,Long Beach
2013,Dodge,Dart Forza Edition,,25%,25%,Lime Rock
2008,Dodge,Viper SRT10 ACR Forza Edition,,25%,25%,Sebring
1968,Dodge,Dart HEMI Super Stock Forza Edition,,20%,20%,150 mph
2017,Ford,F-150 Raptor Forza Edition,,25%,25%,Wet Conditions
2017,Ford,Focus RS Forza Edition,,40%,40%,Watkins Glen
2017,Ford,GT Forza Edition,,50%,50%,Le Mans
2016,Ford,Shelby GT350R Forza Edition,,40%,40%,Road America
2014,Ford,FPV Limited Edition Pursuit Ute Forza Edition,,25%,25%,3 Good Drifts
1993,Ford,SVT Cobra R Forza Edition,,25%,25%,Sebring
1992,Ford,Escort RS Cosworth Forza Edition,VIP,50%,50%,Night
1969,Ford,Mustang Boss 302 Forza Edition,,25%,25%,Lime Rock
1977,Holden,Torana A9X Forza Edition,,25%,25%,Bathurst
2016,Honda,Civic Type R Forza Edition,,25%,25%,Maple Valley
2016,Jaguar,F-TYPE Project 7 Forza Edition,,40%,40%,Top Gear
1993,Jaguar,XJ220 Forza Edition,,40%,40%,Monza
2010,Maserati,Gran Turismo S Forza Edition,,40%,40%,Mugello
2016,Mazda,MX-5 Forza Edition,,25%,25%,Laguna Seca
2016,Mercedes-Benz,C 63 S Coupe Forza Edition,,30%,30%,Hockenheimring
2013,Mercedes-Benz,A 45 AMG Forza Edition,,25%,25%,Bernese Alps
2012,Mercedes-Benz,C 63 AMG Coupe Black Series Forza Edition,,30%,30%,Yas Marina
2012,MINI,John Cooper Works GP Forza Edition,,25%,25%,Brands Hatch
1965,MINI,Cooper S Forza Edition,,25%,25%,Night
2012,Nissan,GT-R Black Edition Forza Edition,VIP,50%,50%,Suzuka
2000,Nissan,Silvia Spec-R Forza Edition,,25%,25%,3 Good Drifts
2013,Ram,Ram Runner Forza Edition,VIP,50%,50%,Test Track Airfield
2013,Subaru,BRZ Forza Edition,,15%,15%,Long Beach
1998,Subaru,Impreza 22B STi Forza Edition,,25%,25%,Wet Conditions
1980,Subaru,BRAT GL Forza Edition,,25%,25%,Wet Conditions

Edited by user Thursday, October 12, 2017 2:16:23 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#20 Posted : Thursday, October 12, 2017 3:43:27 PM(UTC)
Yes, i needed time to do it. It's done, thank you for your help and nice message ;)
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#21 Posted : Friday, October 13, 2017 1:57:36 PM(UTC)
Are you planning to do car stats without homologation parts?
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#22 Posted : Sunday, October 15, 2017 4:34:17 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: fifomaniakPL Go to Quoted Post
Are you planning to do car stats without homologation parts?


Not currently. Those data are harder to gather in the game.

Is that important to have them since most cars are acquired/won with their homologation parts for free?
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#23 Posted : Sunday, October 15, 2017 11:41:52 AM(UTC)
Quote:
Not currently. Those data are harder to gather in the game.

Is that important to have them since most cars are acquired/won with their homologation parts for free?


I understand the data is hard to gather.

I don't know about others, but I care about driving stock factory cars and about their stats, so these homologation parts ruin it for me to be fair and make the stats completely irrelevant.
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#24 Posted : Monday, October 16, 2017 1:51:31 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Milouse Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: JMJRulz Go to Quoted Post
I think PI's you have listed are the game's default homologation setups.

...It's the state of the cars in which most players will likely get and drive the car in.


I find the database with homologation setups perfect just the way it is although I do maintain my own excel spreadsheet which also records my cars owned, SHA (adds together the figures for Top Speed, Handling and Acceleration), HA (for circuits where top speed is less important ), details of championships, drivers cup and forza edition cars. My main table is filtered so that with a couple of mouse clicks I can find all the cars in a certain division or type etc, sort them into SHA or HA and know which should be best in a race. There's one macro in it which resets all the filters and sorts into my default order - Manufacturer, Year, Model.

At present my table has only got 723 cars, which seems to tally with the in-game data :

Tier 1 157
Tier 2 182
Tier 3 147
Tier 4 116
Tier 5 121
Total 723

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#25 Posted : Tuesday, October 31, 2017 1:31:52 AM(UTC)
Hello, I don't remember this being an option in Forza pre-update, but now when you go to "Buy Car" menu, it shows stats for cars with no homologation parts, and it gives you an option to buy cars with stock or homologation parts fitted. Was this from the beginning? Could you now update the data for these cars in your database? That would just leave out the cars that can't be bought through that menu and have to be won through events or bought in specialty dealer, but it's the minority.
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