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Fair enough, but I can understand why many are frustrated.

I'm seeing it as the big challenge of this game for me though, I'm a bit of an achievement hunter and there's no doubt I'll be working hard to get this one.

Way more now... plenty of gaming sessions to get this... in the one I was in yesterday it was noted that the person starting at the back tended to be the person who had just changed their car... overall it's not as hard as it first looked.

It's both.
Before you get to the skill part you have to pass two instances of being lucky.

Note to Turn10 - if you really want to really tweak the 'I have to have them all' crowd, make a nearly impossible to get achievement and make it some odd number like 22 points. If you think the "I can't get them all" crowd is bad, wait till you see the "I have to have an even gamerscore" one?

In all honesty, I got caught out by that in a game a long time ago and for about a year had a gamerscore that ended in either 3 or 8 until I found another game with a 3/2 split and purposely never got the one worth 3 just to re-align the cosmos.

Edited by user Monday, September 21, 2015 5:49:11 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

I have every achievement in that game and every achievement in Forza 2 thru 5 except the drifting one at Long beach. It's the only Forza achievement I haven't got but I see that increasing in Forza 6 there are a few that are REALLY hard. I am not a great driver and if I can get them all they were more play long enough and you will get most of them kind of achievements.the thing that bums me out is the Forza rewards is based off of achievements so I had it maxed at 12,000 pre Forza 6 but will probably not be able to do that before Horizon 3. Oh well it won't stop me from having a blast with this game for a LONG time.

I also should mention all Forza achievements but I don't have them all in either Horizon game

There is going to be boosting session in Saturday 26. There are still empty spots to join. So if you want this achievement here`s your change. :)
http://www.xboxachieveme...sport-6/showSession-5982

I don't think the achievements are very hard. I have Almost every achievement except for the multiplayer laps, racing in every location and thru the pack and didn't even try hard to get the achievements. Most Achievements in this game are time based. Some, like the mod achievements are expensive (I wasted 7 million credits on mod packs until I got the "Thru the Pack Mod" to get the achievement. Some achievements just take pure time (drive every car from ferrari) but you can just take them on 1 lap of daytona.

Even the win in multiplayer with no assists is very easy. If you have trouble with it, buy a AMG GT S, and search for my tune ( GT: iamneubert) and take it for a online rearwheel drive drag race. You should win within 1 or 2 tries.

The only achievement which requires skill and effort is through the pack. Of course there are some factors that are based in luck, but in the end if you get that 1000/1000 Gamerscore on Forza 6 you will be the cherry on the forza cake because not everyone will be able to get this one easy like the rest of the achievement.

Tipp for Turn 10: If you want to tweak the settings, I would just remove the criteria of 24 people in one race or lower it to a 12 or more man race so that people can't do it on drag races.

Edited by user Tuesday, September 22, 2015 11:50:50 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

You've unlocked the "One for the History Books" achievement already? According to your gamercard, your FM6 gamerscore is only 580/1000 with 17 achievements still locked.

Is just a cheevo at the end of the day. From all Forzas (excluding 6, since there's still a lot of hours to put in), I'm missing the one to make 1mil credits online in FM2. Would I like to have it? Sure. Can I live without it? Absolutely.

someone's telling a few porkies

Edited by user Tuesday, September 22, 2015 5:14:11 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

I can dominate C class no collisions at will. I have the cars and have the skill and this lobby provides a strategic advantage in potentially getting the achievement.

I've only had one race where I knew I'd win and the lobby had 24 people. I started 20th. Generally speaking the lobbies at max are usually 18-22 people and when 24 does happen, someone quits before the race starts. It's pretty annoying. The Forza gods don't look nicely upon me. Haha.

The achievement is 90% luck and 10% skill without boosting.

This achievement does have legendary status in the making. I know I'll be thrilled when I eventually get it.

I popped into a league lobby over the weekend, and had to drop off cussing due to way these jokes who think they can drive, actually drive!!! I was ran into and flip twice! I guess I've been matched with the aggressive type due to my interaction with the ai's in the game. So I'll pass on this one, thank you. I plan to stay clear of most online stuff in FM6 as much as I did in FM5!!!!!

Sorry,
but this achievement is just ridicolous!

Yeah being two times lucky (24 lobby and being 24th. of the field)
and then you can prove your skill.

Really can´t understand why you do this to your fans.

Edited by user Tuesday, September 22, 2015 8:48:25 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

So be it, sis! The thing about FM6 is that the physics of the game is somewhat like FM5, which if you're not patient enough you never really understood, but in ways more like FH2, so I think T10 did a great job of marrying the two. But mastering FM6 takes patience and skill building, and you do that by practicing each day and improving on input while increasing speed. My driving improves daily due to that approach and each day I'm doing things I wow myself with. The thing about most folks who play this game is that they never really understand the basics of the simulator and because the physics is unforgiving to their driving antics, they complain that the game needs fixing, instead of fixing their own driver behavior!!!! Go figure, but I agree with you assessment entirely!!!!

Yap,
I don´t get it why people go on the internet and tell lies... esp. lies
that you can detect that fast.

This is the most stupid achievement ever, there are pretty much no 24 player servers already and its only gonna get worse as time goes on; how do you expect someone to earn this achievement in 1 years time? At lease change it so it you can be at the back no matter how many players are in the game.

On the contrary, FM5 had full games pretty much up to FM6's launch so the game should still be alive and kicking that far down the line, it might even be cleaner racing with those still playing the game, actually playing it to race rather than the "shiny new game" people who just cause crashes

Anyone knows what's going on, if you're in first place, but someone of the opponents is leaving so there are only 23 participants after the race? You still get the achievement or is it lost?

I believe you will be okay. The key is that 24 people start the race. If a person drops out once the race has started, you've beaten that person.

Yea those lobbies existed, but those lobbies were hard to find.

Some facts and a story.

Over the last 3 days I've done 80 races with a full 24 players. The number of times that I started in 24th. 0

23^80/24^80 is about 3.3% chance of that happening. So it's not a really small chance that I'm that unlucky, but it's damn annoying. Randomness in achievements like this are annoying because there's always the niggling doubt that there's a bug in the code and you're number is never going to come up.

Here's a story about another game developer who had an issue with something that was supposed to be random and took about two and a half years before they found their bug.

http://asheron.wikia.com/wiki/Wi_Flag

It will still work.
It is actually beneficial if that happens.
From reports of boosting groups, the lobbies are pretty unstable so that if the whole field finishes, it bugs out and doesn't award any Credits, XP and the Achievement.
If about two players quit before that they will end normally.

Everybody is saying that it is ridiculous and you will never have that many people in a lobby etc.
If you really want it that bad and cannot live without it there are plenty of boosting sessions on websites like trueachievements where you should be able to obtain it fairly easily. I got it in maybe the 6th race or so.
I do agree to a certain extent that having to boost for an achievement is a bit ridiculous, but the achievement has been made now and I highly doubt that they are going to change the achievement just because a few people kick up a fuss.
All I will say too is that you should probably do it sooner rather than later because this is one that after people do get it I highly doubt people will still sit in lobbies and help others out.

Depends on what you mean with "sitting in lobbies and help out".
Within a boosting session it is expected that everyone who joined stays until the session is over and that's what usually happens as well.
It's a team effort, others helped you and they expect you to help them as well.

No i don't mean it like that, I know that people will stay in the existing boosting lobby. What I mean is people are unlikely to go back into a lobby like that if they already have the achievement. So after a while there will be fewer and fewer people hosting these lobbies and less chance of there being one when you are available.