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#1 Posted : Thursday, August 27, 2015 5:46:42 PM(UTC)
I went through the car list and grouped every racecar into their appropriate classes. Thought it might be useful for those thinking of setting up some racing leagues.

http://imgur.com/a/01CXg

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#2 Posted : Thursday, August 27, 2015 5:48:15 PM(UTC)
Awesome! I have gone through all of it yet but great job!
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#3 Posted : Thursday, August 27, 2015 5:59:51 PM(UTC)
Good effort, that's actually a very nicely laid out set of graphics.

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#4 Posted : Thursday, August 27, 2015 6:10:39 PM(UTC)
Awesome work man, love the layout, and now I have a nice condensed visual list of all the race cars to drool at until September 10th.
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#5 Posted : Thursday, August 27, 2015 6:15:00 PM(UTC)
Very nice work! definitely saving those to the laptop for reference. thanks for this
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#6 Posted : Thursday, August 27, 2015 6:18:41 PM(UTC)
very cool man! I saved it. Great job
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#8 Posted : Thursday, August 27, 2015 11:39:09 PM(UTC)
That's a lot of race cars but only one I love, the BMW V12 LMR
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#9 Posted : Thursday, August 27, 2015 11:51:44 PM(UTC)
I wonder how well the R8 LMS will race against the other GT3s as they've modelled a GTD spec car which is around 5-6 seconds slower, obviously the gap will be smaller as in IRL the awful hoosi... err... Continental tyres aren't a factor but 3 of those seconds is down to aero, power etc. I know in Forza 4 the had 3 different specs of the last gen Viper race car (Competition coupe, GT3, GT2) but they all used the same competition coupe body style, so hopefully they've given the Audi the GT3 stats.

Great list but I'd put the Gallardo Super Trofeo in the one make group and possibly the 2014 Audi R18 as the difference to the other LMPs is as great as them to the Group C.

I also have to wonder how the modern LMP1 cars will race too. There are 4 different rule sets for 5 cars, the 2009 908 is the full fat 700bhp, 930Kg car were as the 2011 cars lost 150bhp due to new regulations, not sure on the weight but these cars did receive other performance penalties for not being true 2011 rules cars. The 2012 R18 features the 2011 engine size regulations but has a part time AWD from over 100 kmh ( doubt that will be replicated in game) and finally the 2014 cars have less drag and more downforce (1900mm width down from 2000mm wing 1800mm up from 1600mm and a front wing replacing the diffuser), no limit on AWD, 7 Gears as opposed to 6, and around 600hp from the engine and around 300-500hp from the hybrid, these 2014 rules cars especially this year are record breakers. It will be interesting to see if they balance them out or if we will have one dominant car.

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#10 Posted : Friday, August 28, 2015 12:44:14 AM(UTC)
As bitter as I've been that there aren't any modern/modernish stock cars in the game, there sure are a lot of other racing disciplines to enjoy, including lots of totally new ones. Great summary.
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#11 Posted : Friday, August 28, 2015 2:48:04 AM(UTC)
That's fantastic, I think we've got a good amount of cars there that we can use. I know a lot of my team mates are looking forward to the touring cars!

So now we know the content's there, let's hope the rest of the game works well!
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#12 Posted : Friday, August 28, 2015 5:02:41 AM(UTC)
Nice, that visual is really effective. Here it is in text form:

2013 Mazda MX-5 Cup

2013 Ford Formula Ford EcoBoost 200

2015 Formula E #10 Trulli Spark SRT_01E
2015 Formula E #11 ABT FE 01
2015 Formula E #2 Virgin Racing VIR 01E
2015 Formula E #21 Mahindra M2Electro
2015 Formula E #23 Venturi 1
2015 Formula E #27 Andretti Formula E Spark SRT_01E
2015 Formula E #55 Amlin Aguri Spark SRT_01E
2015 Formula E #6 Dragon Racing Spark SRT_01E
2015 Formula E #9 e.dams-Renault Spark SRT_01E
2015 Formula E #99 NEXTEV TCR FE01

2015 Chevrolet #1 Team Penske IndyCar
2015 Chevrolet #9 Target Chip Ganassi Racing IndyCar
2015 Chevrolet #67 CFH Racing IndyCar
2015 Honda #14 AJ Foyt Enterprises IndyCar
2015 Honda #15 Rahal Letterman Lanigan Racing IndyCar
2015 Honda #25 Andretti Autosport IndyCar
2015 Honda #27 Andretti Autosport IndyCar
2015 Honda #28 Andretti Autosport IndyCar
2015 Honda #5 Schmidt Peterson Motorsports IndyCar
2015 Honda #7 Schmidt Peterson Motorsports IndyCar

2014 Volvo #1 Volvo Polestar Racing S60 STCC
2014 Volvo #13 Volvo Polestar Racing S60 STCC
2014 Honda #2 Castrol Honda Civic WTCC
2014 Honda #5 Zengo Motorsport Civic WTCC
2014 Audi #67 Rotek Racing S3 Saloon
2014 BMW #5 Ebay Motors 125i M Sport
2014 Mercedes #33 WIX Racing A-Class (A45)
2014 Toyota #11 Handy Motorsport Avensis
2014 Toyota #20 United Autosports Avensis
2014 Toyota #80 Speedworks Motorsport Avensis

1975 BMW #25 BMW Motorsport 3.0 CSL
1975 BMW #93 Herve Poulain 3.0 CSL
1979 BMW #6 BMW Motorsport M1 Procar
1981 Ford #2 Zakspeed Racing Capri Turbo
1981 Ford #55 Liqui Moly equipe Capri Turbo
1982 Ferrari #71 Ferrari France 512 BB/LM
1982 Ferrari #72 N.A.R.T. 512 BB/LM
1989 Audi #4 Audi 90 quattro IMSA GTO

1966 Chaparral #66 Chaparral Cars 2E
1969 McLaren #4 McLaren Cars M8B
1969 Nissan #21 Nissan Racing R382
1969 Lola #10 Simoniz Special T163

1956 Jaguar D-Type
1955 Mercedes 300 SLR
1957 Maserati 300 S
1957 Ferrari 250 Testa Rossa
1958 Aston Martin DBR1
1961 Maserati Tipo 61 Birdcage
1953 Ferrari 500 Mondial
1956 Lotus Eleven

2006 Aston Martin #007 Aston Martin Racing DBR9
2009 BMW #92 Rahal Letterman Racing M3 GT2
2014 BMW #55 BMW Team RLL Z4 GTE
2014 BMW #56 BMW Team RLL Z4 GTE
2015 Chevrolet #3 Corvette Racing Corvette C7.R
2014 Dodge #93 SRT Motorsports Viper GTS-R
2014 Ferrari #51 AF Corse 458 Italia GTE
2014 Ferrari #62 Risi Competizione 458 Italia GTLM
2011 Ferrari #62 Risi Competizione F458 Italia GTC
2013 SRT #91 SRT Motorsport GTS-R
2014 Audi #45 Flying Lizard Motorsports R8 LMS Ultra
2014 Bentley #7 M-Sport Bentley Continental GT3
2014 Lamborghini #14 GMG Racing LP 570-4 Super Trofeo
2014 Lamborghini #18 DragonSpeed Gallardo LP 570-4 Super Trofeo
2011 McLaren #59 McLaren GT MP4-12C GT3
2014 McLaren #60 Bhaitech 12C GT3
2014 McLaren #98 ART Grand Prix MP4-12C GT3
2011 Mercedes #35 Black Falcon SLS AMG GT3
2014 Mercedes #84 HTP Motorsport SLS AMG GT3

1991 Mazda #18 787B
1991 Mazda #55 787B
1993 Peugeot #3 Peugeot Talbot Sport 905 EVO 1C
1999 BMW #15 BMW V12 LMR
1999 BMW #16 BMW V12 LMR
1999 Toyota #3 Toyota Motorsports GT-ONE TS020
2003 Bentley #7 Team Bentley Speed 8
1998 Ferrari #12 Risi Competizione F333 SP
1998 Ferrari #30 MOMO Doran Racing F333 SP
2004 Audi #5 Audi Sport Japan Team Goh R8
2006 Audi #2 Audi Sport North America R8 (FSI)
2009 Peugeot #9 Peugeot Sport Total 908
2011 Audi #2 Audi Sport Team Joest R15++ TDI
2011 Peugeot #10 Matmut-Oreca 908
2012 Audi #1 Audi Sport Team Joest R18 e-tron quattro
2014 Audi #2 Audi Team Joest R18 e-tron quattro

1939 Maserati 8CTF
1939 Auto Union Type D
1952 Ferrari 375
1967 Brabham BT24
1967 Eagle-Westlake T1G
1967 Lotus Type 49
1966 McLaren M2B
1976 Ferrari #1 Scuderia Ferrari 312T2
1976 Lotus #5 Team Lotus 77
1976 McLaren #11 Marlboro Team McLaren M23
2015 Lotus E23


I would also suggest these pairings:
1962 Ferrari 250 GTO
1965 Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe

1965 Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ2
1966 Ford GT40 MkII
1967 Ferrari 330 P4
1968 Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale

1968 Lancia Fulvia Coupe Rallye 1.6 HF
1974 Lancia Stratos HF Stradale
1980 Abarth Fiat 131
1980 Renault 5 Turbo
1983 Audi Sport quattro
1982 Lancia 037 Stradale
1986 Lancia Delta S4
1984 Peugeot 205 T16
1984 MG Metro 6R4
1985 Ford RS200 Evolution
(some of these are production but in particular the Metro and RS200 are significantly higher in PI)

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#13 Posted : Friday, August 28, 2015 5:04:37 AM(UTC)
great work there and thanks MateoMax for adding Group B rally to the list.

Really hoping someones gonna do and A-Z of brands as the reveal lists have been messy and it takes too long to find cars on the list.

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#14 Posted : Friday, August 28, 2015 5:09:21 AM(UTC)
I have an A-Z list in the DLC thread stickied at the top of the forum.
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#15 Posted : Friday, August 28, 2015 5:10:39 AM(UTC)
Very cool. Visuals helped me get a broad picture of what is out there.

Not much of a race car fan in this series but there are a bunch of cars pictured that I will blow my initial freebie credits on. Some of those car designs are just amazing.
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#16 Posted : Friday, August 28, 2015 5:17:07 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Confused Shelf Go to Quoted Post
I went through the car list and grouped every racecar into their appropriate classes. Thought it might be useful for those thinking of setting up some racing leagues.

http://imgur.com/a/01CXg


Looks good! Like im at toys r us buying some hot wheels lol
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#17 Posted : Friday, August 28, 2015 3:44:31 PM(UTC)
Thanks everyone for the positive response. I redid a couple of the images in response to the comments I received. GT classes should be accurate now.





Can someone confirm that the 2011 Ferrari 458 is in the right category? It is named 458 GTC in the game. My understanding is that GTC refers to a Porsche only cup in America and a GT3 class in Europe but when I looked at some videos of it in FM5 it only had GT on the livery. I'm aware that 458s race in a number of different classes so I just want to be sure.

I had a couple of people request that I do something for 1960s Le Mans. I originally decided not to make one because there are around two dozen cars in FM6 that raced during that decade but almost none of them are in race trim. Made a start on Group 6 but by the time I got to the Alfa 33 it was bothering me too much that this was the road version so I didn't look at the other categories. Where do I draw the line? Several dozen cars raced in the Group 2 category; a dozen in Trans-Am.

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#18 Posted : Friday, August 28, 2015 4:39:13 PM(UTC)
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Thanks everyone for the positive response. I redid a couple of the images in response to the comments I received. GT classes should be accurate now.

http://i.imgur.com/mNcYNrV.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/seweBxb.jpg

Not sure how to embed the images in the post. Can someone confirm that the 2011 Ferrari 458 is in the right category? It is named 458 GTC in the game. My understanding is that GTC refers to a Porsche only cup in America and a GT3 class in Europe but when I looked at some videos of it in FM5 it only had GT on the livery. I'm aware that 458s race in a number of different classes so I just want to be sure.


Yeah Its a GTE car, which was formally GT2 and called GT LM in the States. I don't know why series change the name of classes they use from other series.

LMGT2 was changed to LMGTE-Pro/LMGTE-Am or GTE for short in 2011 to reflect the end of GT1, however in the USA it was changed to GT, which in turn was changed to GTLM when the ALMS was bought out by NASCAR.

GTC gets used for all sorts, in British GT its used for one make cup cars (458 Challenge, Chevron GTC, Gallardo Trofeo, 911 cup), in the ALMS it used to be for the 911 Cup only class and in the European Le Mans Series its used for GT3 and in VLN they'd be in SP7 and SP8.

GT3 will still be called GTD in IMSA next year, in Pirelli World Challenge it is simply known as GT/GTA and in the VLN it is called SP9 and GTC in ELMS.

GT4 is pretty much GS in IMSA and GTS in Pirelli World Challenge or SP10 for VLN.

Why have four names for four classes when you can have Eleventy five!

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#19 Posted : Friday, August 28, 2015 5:25:59 PM(UTC)
A few changes to the "Prototype" section I would make.

- The 333SP, Audi R8s and BMW V12 LMRs together in an "LMP900" class, or even just together in the existing "LMP" class, as they all raced in that era of ACO and FIA prototype regulations, and against each other in 1999 and 2000 in both Europe and North America.

- Both Peugeot 908s and the R15++ could go in an LMP1 (Pre 2011) category, as even though the Oreca Pug and R15 raced in 2011, both were of the previous generation of regulations and were heavily restricted.

- Both R18s would go in an LMP1 (Post 2011) category, as they're both of the current era of LMP1 cars, with fins and hybrid systems and whatnot.

I'm being pretty nitpicky, I know, but it's what racing nerds like me do I suppose. Nothing you have to do, just my suggestions to help improve the list a bit. Still a great job overall.
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#20 Posted : Friday, August 28, 2015 5:55:30 PM(UTC)
Great post. Thanks for the race classes pics.
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#21 Posted : Friday, August 28, 2015 6:03:40 PM(UTC)
I was told by someone on reddit that the Ferrari 375 is actually not the F1 model but an Indycar one. Made the appropriate changes.


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#22 Posted : Friday, August 28, 2015 6:15:54 PM(UTC)
Thanks for the hard work!! This should come in handy. (:

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#23 Posted : Friday, August 28, 2015 6:28:54 PM(UTC)
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A few changes to the "Prototype" section I would make.

- The 333SP, Audi R8s and BMW V12 LMRs together in an "LMP900" class, or even just together in the existing "LMP" class, as they all raced in that era of ACO and FIA prototype regulations, and against each other in 1999 and 2000 in both Europe and North America.

- Both Peugeot 908s and the R15++ could go in an LMP1 (Pre 2011) category, as even though the Oreca Pug and R15 raced in 2011, both were of the previous generation of regulations and were heavily restricted.

- Both R18s would go in an LMP1 (Post 2011) category, as they're both of the current era of LMP1 cars, with fins and hybrid systems and whatnot.

I'm being pretty nitpicky, I know, but it's what racing nerds like me do I suppose. Nothing you have to do, just my suggestions to help improve the list a bit. Still a great job overall.


As per your suggestions I've rearranged the prototypes into more appropriate categories that better show the comparative performance of the cars.

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#24 Posted : Friday, August 28, 2015 6:33:56 PM(UTC)
Awesome, I think that's a great representation of the prototypes relative to one another, this is really going to become the definitive list, and I think it will help people wanting to run racing series as well.

Also, on the topic of Indy spec cars masquerading as Grand Prix cars, the Maserati 8CTF is also an Indy special, one that won the Indy 500 back to back in 1939 and 1940, both years driven by Wilbur Shaw.

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#25 Posted : Friday, August 28, 2015 8:05:29 PM(UTC)
Nice work there! Thanks for doing this!
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