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#26 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 6:49:17 AM(UTC)
Of the mods introduced in the article, it seems that Ghost may prove itself quite useful. Especially if you can combine mods from multiple categories to your advantage - you can race a higher difficulty AI, while using the mod to start in 24th place, and the mod to have no collisions during the first lap and just ghost through all the cars out into 1st place and then hold it....

Credits haven't been that hard to come by in the past and many players are sitting on multiple millions with nothing to use them on. Mods seem like a good way to stack credits or make lots of money quickly in the beginning but they also seem like a fun or interesting way to spend money once you're further along in the game with a good bank. They may present fun challenges and ways to play when you play Solo or Free Play with friends locally while giving you something to spend some money on when your garage is full and your cars are all built.

It's just a shame you can't play private or custom lobby and opt whether or not you can use Mods online. I think it'd be a nice option to play with a few friends and use Mods - as a challenge, or punishment, or just to see what happens.

Until more info comes out, it looks like a good feature for money making, achievement hunting, and then dust gathering until I find some friends for local play.
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#27 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 7:16:41 AM(UTC)
Some people just get angry at everything even if it's optional. The perfeformance upgrades don't give you extra credits and is good for people who don't play a lot of racing games. I plan on using the Dare mods such as forced cockpit, and assists off dare mods since they stack the rewards with already having assists off.

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#28 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 7:19:59 AM(UTC)
Speaking of Mods, here are the associated Achievements there their usage is required:

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Modified
15
Finish in 1st place with all Mod Types equipped

Home Field
10
Use a Track Specialist Crew Mod on the track this Mod states

Mod Buff
15
Collect 250 Amount of Mods

Kickback
10
Earn 100% credit bonus from Mods in a single race

Up to the Challenge
10
Finish 1st using the Suggested Line Off, Cockpit Camera only Dare Mod

I Dare You
15
Finish 1st using the Back of the Pack Dare Mod

You Shouldn't
20
Finish 1st using the Manual Transmission Dare Mod
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#29 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 7:27:42 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: RPM Swerve Go to Quoted Post
Thanks for considering how mods may effect leaderboards.

Not sure if I really want to use mods though. I already run no assists and have no interest in artificially boosting my car's ability.


Well maybe a mod that gives you bonuses for running with no assists might be of interest to you, the game has those.

I don't think it's mentioned in the article, but you can also sell mods you aren't using for extra credits.

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#30 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 7:37:47 AM(UTC)
At least none of this **** will count for lap times and can't be used in multiplayer, but just having it in the game, cheapens it. All the time spent putting this junk in the game could have been spent on something more useful. Please keep the motorsport franchise more of a sim racer and save this garbage for horizon.

I know my response won't make any difference, but I feel compelled to say something, just so they don't think that everyone is fine with the direction they are going.

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#31 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 7:51:27 AM(UTC)
Mods remind me of Titanfall. Never cared much for their special cards and they would just pile up and sit there. I might use the ones that boost credits, but I'm not sure how interested I'd be in others. Definitely catering to a more casual gamer though.

I like the idea of prize spins. I really enjoyed the free car options in FM4, but I'm happy enough with the spin feature. With the VIP package and the loyalty stuff, it doesn't seem like credits are going to be in short supply to buy more cars anyway.
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#32 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:10:29 AM(UTC)
Looks like I'll be sticking to online racing 15million will be enough to build a few D-S class cars for the hoppers
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#33 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:12:16 AM(UTC)
Some of the dares (like forced cockpit view, start in 24th, no assists, and forced manual/clutch, etc.), if they are used alone (no other mods), shouldn't be counted as dirty if you ask me. Otherwise, this is a great idea.

At least they probably won't be available for microtransactions.

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#34 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:16:25 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: FerrariFan24 Go to Quoted Post
Some of the dares (like forced cockpit view, start in 24th, no assists, and forced manual/clutch, etc.), if they are used alone (no other mods), shouldn't be counted as dirty if you ask me. Otherwise, this is a great idea.

At least they probably won't be available for microtransactions.


Ummm, pretty sure Helios confirmed that this is precisely what they'll be available for, unless I'm misreading your post.

And while I may have put it more eloquently, I have to agree with L0CK3D. These cheapen the game.

Edited by user Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:18:27 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#35 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:26:54 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: smoothroller Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: FerrariFan24 Go to Quoted Post
Some of the dares (like forced cockpit view, start in 24th, no assists, and forced manual/clutch, etc.), if they are used alone (no other mods), shouldn't be counted as dirty if you ask me. Otherwise, this is a great idea.

At least they probably won't be available for microtransactions.

Ummm, pretty sure Helios confirmed that this is precisely what they'll be available for, unless I'm misreading your post.

And while I may have put it more eloquently, I have to agree with L0CK3D. These cheapen the game.

*Somebody* is misreading something...

From the news article:

"First, Mods are game modifiers, similar to perks in Forza Horizon 2 ... Mod packs can be won as part of the Prize spinner (described above) or purchased for in-game credits."

Can FH2 Perks be bought with "microtransactions"? Can you buy Credits in FH2 (or any Forza game thus far) with "microtransactions"?

And as far as it "cheapening the game" goes... New features for Solo / Career play, that *might* make it more enjoyable for people - less of a "grind" that so many like to complain about. How in the world does that "cheapen the game" ???

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#36 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:30:11 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: smoothroller Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: FerrariFan24 Go to Quoted Post
Some of the dares (like forced cockpit view, start in 24th, no assists, and forced manual/clutch, etc.), if they are used alone (no other mods), shouldn't be counted as dirty if you ask me. Otherwise, this is a great idea.

At least they probably won't be available for microtransactions.


Ummm, pretty sure Helios confirmed that this is precisely what they'll be available for, unless I'm misreading your post.

And while I may have put it more eloquently, I have to agree with L0CK3D. These cheapen the game.


You can buy mod packs in-game with credits, you can also win them via the level up prize spin.

Mods can also be sold back to the game if you don't think you're going to use them.

Edited by user Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:30:41 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#37 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:32:39 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: smoothroller Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: FerrariFan24 Go to Quoted Post
Some of the dares (like forced cockpit view, start in 24th, no assists, and forced manual/clutch, etc.), if they are used alone (no other mods), shouldn't be counted as dirty if you ask me. Otherwise, this is a great idea.

At least they probably won't be available for microtransactions.


Ummm, pretty sure Helios confirmed that this is precisely what they'll be available for, unless I'm misreading your post.

And while I may have put it more eloquently, I have to agree with L0CK3D. These cheapen the game.


Selling mods back to the game isn't really a microtransaction but makes me wonder: can we sell cars back? If that's confirmed I missed it, but that was nice to have.
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#38 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:35:38 AM(UTC)
With the mod that starts you in 24th place, does that mean there's qualifying? Or will you just start in some other position by default normally?
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#39 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:37:30 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: emorphien Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: smoothroller Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: FerrariFan24 Go to Quoted Post
Some of the dares (like forced cockpit view, start in 24th, no assists, and forced manual/clutch, etc.), if they are used alone (no other mods), shouldn't be counted as dirty if you ask me. Otherwise, this is a great idea.

At least they probably won't be available for microtransactions.


Ummm, pretty sure Helios confirmed that this is precisely what they'll be available for, unless I'm misreading your post.

And while I may have put it more eloquently, I have to agree with L0CK3D. These cheapen the game.


Selling mods back to the game isn't really a microtransaction but makes me wonder: can we sell cars back? If that's confirmed I missed it, but that was nice to have.


Yes you can sell cars back to the game.
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#40 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:39:16 AM(UTC)
Really looking forward to using some of these mods Ian, a couple I can see which I would use most of the time, one being 'Back of the Pack'. It's always nice having a challenge :)
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#41 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:39:36 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: emorphien Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: smoothroller Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: FerrariFan24 Go to Quoted Post
Some of the dares (like forced cockpit view, start in 24th, no assists, and forced manual/clutch, etc.), if they are used alone (no other mods), shouldn't be counted as dirty if you ask me. Otherwise, this is a great idea.

At least they probably won't be available for microtransactions.


Ummm, pretty sure Helios confirmed that this is precisely what they'll be available for, unless I'm misreading your post.

And while I may have put it more eloquently, I have to agree with L0CK3D. These cheapen the game.


Selling mods back to the game isn't really a microtransaction but makes me wonder: can we sell cars back? If that's confirmed I missed it, but that was nice to have.


Yes you can, for a lesser price than what you paid for it originally though.
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#42 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:49:10 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: SWYD1 Go to Quoted Post
This modding idea seems to be pretty idiotic.
It would fit into the more arcade-ish Horizon franchise but not into Forza Motorsport.
Is it really optional? And do we still have the old system of car mods?

Best example of how bad these mods are: Ghost – Your car has no collisions for the first lap of this race.
Really? This is so sad for a game which wants to be realistic and challenging.


I agree 100%. This is a really stupid idea. How is no collisions a mod anyhow? Sounds like a cheat to me. Forza Motorsport is supposed to be about being a simulator first and foremost. This is arcade s#%t that belongs in Forza Horizon series. Maybe it is time to abandon this series? Should have got a PS4 for Project Cars and upcoming Assetto Corsa.

Turn 10 not happy about arcade features being added to this game. I love Forza Motorsport because it was realistic. Save this dumb **** for Forza Horizon please.

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#43 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:57:04 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: HeliosT10 Go to Quoted Post

You can buy mod packs in-game with credits, you can also win them via the level up prize spin.

Mods can also be sold back to the game if you don't think you're going to use them.


My mistake. I thought I'd originally read that they could be purchased with money, which is why I thought they would fall under the "microtransaction" banner.

The whole thing still seems bogus to me, however.

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#44 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:59:29 AM(UTC)
how much time and other resources were spent on this? i dont like it. dont use it? ture. but we also wont be useing an extra track that those same resources could have been spent on. are they going to charge us less for the game if we dont use it? then they charged us for it. dont use it, but pay for it anyway. great logic. forza got its rep for being a sim and dan seems determined to make it as casual as possible. there is a reason microsoft quit making pgr. return on investment. pgr was a better arcade racer than forza. trying to be a lesser version of a cancled series is not a wise move. playground probably works cheaper then turn ten, ms would get out of all the taxes, obamacare, etc.....they have to pay american workers....microsoft may desolve turn ten and just let playground make the games cheaper = more profit.

dont like a bad idea fine but pay dan's bonus anyway. if i wanted horizon i would have bought horizon. i did not buy it for a reason. make this version of the game more like the inferior version that sells half as much seems liek a good idea? fm6 needs to sell double, not half of fm5. i have owned every xbox and every forza motorsport. i helped buy dans house for him. evidently he didn't like my money. makeing a racing sim more attractive to short attention span kids not even old enough to get a job or drivers license. yeah....that going to end great right? there were not enough bumper car drivers already. and yes fm5 single player training people to bang their way thru traffic from last to 1st in two laps proved single player trains multiplayer driving.

what about drivitars? your drivitar is going to be trained with a high grip mod then raced without it? its going to try to beat you into the corner expecting more grip and braking and hit you. even if you dont use the mods the mods are going to affect your game. it wont affect even those that dont use it? are they stripping drivatars out? then how will it not affect them?

forza is a game that wants to be what ever the player wants it to be? it does not or it would be free. what gamer doesn't like free games? and pretending to be is exactly the problem. you know what gammers want? guns, lots of guns. halo, fallout, and call of duty are are going to sell better than froza. heck their dlc will probably out sell forza. should forza put guns in the game? moariocart out sells forza. i dont buy mario cart. i bought forza. looks like they quit making forza and want to sell me mariocart with a forza lable. and probably put guns in fm7. dans might see my post and think its a good idea not catching the sarcasm. maybe its a good thing turn ten ignores their own community.
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#45 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:06:16 AM(UTC)
no offense here... but every article now that introduces anything new or has the slightest even mention to horizon is like the devil to some now. I'm starting to think people would rather pay 10 million credits per car, have no new features at all, just have everything stripped off just as long they have lobbies and a auction. It's getting pretty sad seeing every little bit of news sent in a uproar because it's not "pure." No wonder they don't give much info...

Having said all that it looks like a neat addition. Wonder what all the mods there might be in the game.

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#46 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:12:04 AM(UTC)
[Mod edit WSD - profanity and alluding to profanity is against the tos]

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#47 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:16:11 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: CVG23 Go to Quoted Post
no offense here... but every article now that introduces anything new or has the slightest even mention to horizon is like the devil to some now. I'm starting to think people would rather pay 10 million credits per car, have no new features at all, just have everything stripped off just as long they have lobbies and a auction. It's getting pretty sad seeing every little bit of news sent in a uproar because it's not "pure." No wonder they don't give much info...

Having said all that it looks like a neat addition. Wonder what all the mods there might be in the game.



Yes and no. For one, there's always going to be haters, and the beauty of anonymous posting is that there's very little recourse for flaming. Also, this tends to be a thing of extremes: only those that really love, or really hate something are going to take the time to post about it.

Having said that, I've been super supportive of everything they've announced so far, and I'm not in the minority. I spend a lot of time on these boards, and I can't remember them being as positive as they have been lately. Until this weird announcement, that is, and I couldn't care less about lobbies and/or the AH. I just find this so needless, and there are other things I would like for them to have spent their time on.

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#48 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:18:32 AM(UTC)
Double Post. Please delete.

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#49 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:28:40 AM(UTC)
I make her my words!

More a disappointment!!
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#50 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:31:24 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: L0CK3D Go to Quoted Post
At least none of this **** will count for lap times and can't be used in multiplayer, but just having it in the game, cheapens it. All the time spent putting this junk in the game could have been spent on something more useful. Please keep the motorsport franchise more of a sim racer and save this garbage for horizon.

I know my response won't make any difference, but I feel compelled to say something, just so they don't think that everyone is fine with the direction they are going.



Agree completely.
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