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#2026 Posted : Sunday, January 24, 2021 7:58:24 AM(UTC)
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For the next week or so, let’s try Glen Rannoch Hillside Sprint. Working our way back up the classes - so A class this week. No Roadster, Punk, Nova FE or Daytona (so I’m going to have to find something to beat a fairly quick looking Daytona time).


Was tough for me to beat my Nova FE time but I've gone 3 tenths faster in a Peugeot 205 with Rayne's tune.
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#2027 Posted : Sunday, January 24, 2021 8:34:53 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: ziperrPL Go to Quoted Post
RB033 - earlier (like few month ago) we had class restrictions + banned cars (e.g. only retro hot hatch, etc.), so it was "easier" to not use meta. Now there is only fen banned cars. I preffered to be more limited :)


I see the value in restrictions. I think many of us have been trying alternatives by our own will and sometimes they work out. Needless the say I will try alta first every time. Driving the Daytona was nice to compare how close I can get with the same car as yourself and the other top folks in the thread. I will take it to my tests for comparison to my other times out of curiosity.

Genuinely would love to hear more car ideas that anyone is using online. I think Jezza mentioned a handful from his alt account in the FFA thread?
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#2028 Posted : Sunday, January 24, 2021 9:33:51 AM(UTC)
Haven't done much on this track apart from S2, never realized how much it favours power builds even with how tight the second half is. Was racing against Full Nietzsche's ghost and kept running 2:41s in my usual off-meta suspects (Triumph TR7, '04 WRX STi). Tried Rocklxd's off-meta tune for the 205 R and while fun, it only managed a 2:41.xxx as well. Tried a FWD Ford Puma I have and couldn't even get through the first turn cleanly. Finally settled on the '97 GT-R, ESV Suimin's power build with 700ish HP. Have gotten down to 2:39.960, 165th in the world but nowhere near FN in the FWD 205 R. Most of my tidying needs to come in the final 30% but even then I'll need a different car to get into the top 100, IMO. Curious to see what everyone else settles on.
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#2029 Posted : Sunday, January 24, 2021 9:57:57 AM(UTC)
I'm using for ranked:
B class: S13 Silvia/240SX (meta?), '77 Pontiac TransAm (for tracks requiring speed)
A tarmac: '92 Ford Escort, Lancer EVO 9, Subaru 22B, VW Golf IV, GMC Typhoon/Syclone (meta?), '02 Corvette, '15 Subaru WRX STI, '13 Toyota GT86
A dirt: '92 Ford Escort, Lancer EVO 9, '77 Ford Escort, Ford Cortina, '17 Ford Focus RS, IHI Scout (meta?), '94 Toyota Celica, Vauxhall Insignia,
A CC: Ford F150 Trophy Truck, IHI Scout (meta?),
S1 tarmac: '95 Corvette, '71 Ford Falcon FE, '16 BMW M4, '10 BMW M3, Ford Transit FE (it was quite long time since last time used), Formula Drift 370Z, '16 Porsche Cayman GT4
S1 dirt: '64 Ford GT40,
S1 CC:
S2: Hennessey Venom,

Honorable mentions:
A tarmac: Dodge Dart (meta?), '11 BMW M1, Ferrari 360 (for tracks requiring handling)

That is my subjective list off non-meta ;)
For cars that are AWD stock manual+clutch required.
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#2030 Posted : Sunday, January 24, 2021 1:13:19 PM(UTC)
I only do road/street at ranked nowadays and my off meta options (in no real order) are:

A:

Dry Only - Syclone, Eclipse
Normal - 350Z, 33S, 97 Skyline, 14 Golf, 92 NSX
Winter - Typhoon, Pulsar, Trueno, Scout
Handling - 340R, Renault 5 FE, Clio FE
Power - Peugeot 205r (FWD)

S1:

Dry Only - TZ2, Alfa 155, Doubledown
Normal - 570S, F1, Carrera, Huracan, ATS, 2020 Corvette, Reventon
Winter - Daytona, Esprit
Handling - BAC Mono
Power - 94 Supra

S2:

Dry Only - CLK GTR (drags), F50 GT, F40C
Normal - Apollo, MC12 FE,
Wet - Zonda C, Huayra BC, F1 GT
Winter - 599XX E, F1 GT,
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#2031 Posted : Sunday, January 24, 2021 1:35:07 PM(UTC)
Thanks, lots to try!
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#2032 Posted : Sunday, January 24, 2021 2:05:02 PM(UTC)
Feels that this event is going to be either FWD/RWD or drag tyres - fairly standard for A class!

I’ve gone a bit quicker in the Peugeot, so at least I’m on the board in a qualifying car.
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#2033 Posted : Monday, January 25, 2021 1:40:03 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Jezza14 Go to Quoted Post
Feels that this event is going to be either FWD/RWD or drag tyres - fairly standard for A class!

I managed a low 2:38 with the Lotus Eleven without any of those things, and I know it can get into the 2:37s (did it with a dirty run), but it was at the stage where it was needing every corner to be taken extremely well just to maybe end up a few tenths behind FN's Peugeot ghost, and it didn't seem worth spending any more time on it.
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#2034 Posted : Monday, January 25, 2021 2:06:11 AM(UTC)
2.37.5 or so seems to be about the best I can do with non drag options - the 33S (Hlundh tune) might be capable of getting into the 2.36s. I’m pretty sure I’ll be into the 2.34s with some of the drag tyre options. There’s Pulsar times at that speed on the lb which must be with drags.
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#2035 Posted : Monday, January 25, 2021 3:27:16 AM(UTC)
Zipper I tried the 02 vette on Greendale and clocked a 55s with my tunes. It has street tyres and full aero so probably rear aero can be quicker.
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#2036 Posted : Monday, January 25, 2021 4:34:15 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Jezza14 Go to Quoted Post
2.37.5 or so seems to be about the best I can do with non drag options - the 33S (Hlundh tune) might be capable of getting into the 2.36s. I’m pretty sure I’ll be into the 2.34s with some of the drag tyre options. There’s Pulsar times at that speed on the lb which must be with drags.


Try the RS7 but the 33S is easier to drive atm

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#2037 Posted : Monday, January 25, 2021 5:14:05 AM(UTC)
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Zipper I tried the 02 vette on Greendale and clocked a 55s with my tunes. It has street tyres and full aero so probably rear aero can be quicker.


I tried for a few laps too and my best was 55.5 using FRT Muka Romero's tune.
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#2038 Posted : Monday, January 25, 2021 6:14:30 AM(UTC)
Improved to 2.34.4 in the Syclone - Rocklxd’s drag tyres tune.
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#2039 Posted : Monday, January 25, 2021 6:23:01 AM(UTC)
Since I was asking around about non-meta alternatives, here is my list. These are generally less than 1 s / 1 min off meta that I've tested, sometimes tied or better depending on the track and tune. I have tunes shared for all of the below (if you see a car multiple times, there are multiple tunes). I don't race CC or S2 online any longer (even unranked), unless the mood is right, I had some success with '19 Macan and F1 GT.

B-Dirt:
'81 Ford Fiesta, '13 Subaru BRZ, '87 Pontiac Trans Am, '71 Lotus Elan

A-Dirt:
'13 Subaru BRZ, '70 Triumph TR6, '80 Abarth Fiat 131
Rain/Winter - '93 Ford Mustang or BRZ

A-Road:
Dry Only - '87 Pontiac Trans Am
General - '81 BMW M1, '88 Lambo Countach
Rain/Winter - '70 Triumph TR6 (Dirt Tire), '13 Subaru BRZ (Sport Tire)
Handling - '05 Lotus Elise

S1-Dirt:
'88 Lambo Countach, '16 Ford Mustang GT350, '84 Ferrari 288 GTO

S1-Road:
Dry Only - '93 McLaren F1 (Drag NA)
General - '84 Ferrari 288 GTO, '94 Ferrari 355 Berlinetta
Rain/Winter - '88 Lambo Countach (Dirt Tire), '93 McLaren F1 (Dirt Tire)

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#2040 Posted : Monday, January 25, 2021 7:07:14 AM(UTC)
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I don't race CC or S2 online any longer (even unranked), unless the mood is right...


So I guess the other day was the blue moon cameo appearance?

Every train needs a caboose, right?
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#2041 Posted : Monday, January 25, 2021 7:14:02 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RB033 Go to Quoted Post
I don't race CC or S2 online any longer (even unranked), unless the mood is right...


So I guess the other day was the blue moon cameo appearance?



Yeppers! I fired up unranked matchmaking and it saw you were in a lobby and put me in it. That was actually fun.
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#2042 Posted : Monday, January 25, 2021 9:31:52 AM(UTC)
RB - I had a quick go in the 87 Pontiac on this course to see how competitive it was. It’s a very smooth drive. I did just outside 2.40 with it and could easily get into the 2.39s. That would put it about midway in my list (I did one run in all 30 or so cars I have on my alt account yesterday as I wanted to test them for ranked).

You might like to try Kaike Sykes’ Charger Daytona if you like older American options - I did 2.39.7 with my one run in that.
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#2043 Posted : Monday, January 25, 2021 2:44:55 PM(UTC)
I've improved to 2:36.623 (68th) using Rocklxd's drag tires tune for the Pulsar. Haven't driven much on drag tires so it took some practice but I finally put a couple clean runs together. There's more to gain in the Pulsar for sure, I find braking very challenging in it so if I can manage to tidy up some corner entrances I'll get into the 2:35s for sure.

Fantastic time in the Syclone, Jezza. I'm going to give that a whirl tomorrow and see if I can get along with it better the Pulsar, but I can't see myself touching the 2:33s.
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#2044 Posted : Monday, January 25, 2021 6:59:51 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Jezza14 Go to Quoted Post
RB - I had a quick go in the 87 Pontiac on this course to see how competitive it was. It’s a very smooth drive. I did just outside 2.40 with it and could easily get into the 2.39s. That would put it about midway in my list (I did one run in all 30 or so cars I have on my alt account yesterday as I wanted to test them for ranked).

You might like to try Kaike Sykes’ Charger Daytona if you like older American options - I did 2.39.7 with my one run in that.


I will look that up for sure haven't used the Charger Daytona anywhere yet. As for my tunes, Countach is capable of 2.38.6 with a couple rewinds. Being a longer track I'll wait to go for clean until I test some others out.
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