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#1501 Posted : Friday, June 26, 2020 9:35:12 AM(UTC)
2.23.694. Was ahead of Rayne’s ghost until the right-left out of the village. Just got the entry slightly wrong. Low 2.23s is possible but can’t see where I’d find a full second to catch the Daytonas.

Also had one (deliberately dirty) run in the Pulsar and ran 2.22.8 with a couple of errors. Fairly sure I could get into the 2.21s with that.

Edited by user Friday, June 26, 2020 9:42:58 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#1502 Posted : Friday, June 26, 2020 10:27:29 AM(UTC)
Just squeezed into the 2:22s with the Pulsar, that's about the best I can do I think. I'm not aware of any better cars to try, regardless of make.
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#1503 Posted : Friday, June 26, 2020 1:46:04 PM(UTC)
The A class 89 MR2 seems to be rather slippy, if pretty quick. 2.12.3 with a bit of a mess of the village section. Good enough for 18th with a lot of top tier A class cars above it.
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#1504 Posted : Saturday, June 27, 2020 7:36:41 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Jezza14 Go to Quoted Post
The A class 89 MR2 seems to be rather slippy, if pretty quick. 2.12.3 with a bit of a mess of the village section. Good enough for 18th with a lot of top tier A class cars above it.


Ran against it in my RWD Race tires build - which is definitely something else for A800 :D

Was kind of interesting to see how two so different builds nearly run identical times. At the start the gap increases a lot, then I keep it through the long S-turns to overtake you under heavy braking in the village and you would catch me again out of the village up to the line.
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#1505 Posted : Friday, July 3, 2020 3:47:36 PM(UTC)
I’ve been trying Bree’s Zenvo tune. I decided fairly swiftly I wasn’t going to beat my CCGT time at Edinburgh West, so switched to Holyrood Run. Have managed 18th so far in 1.45.4. I can probably find a bit more time (and 12th is only 0.4 ahead) but I think I’d struggle to crack the top 10.
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#1506 Posted : Saturday, July 4, 2020 5:04:52 AM(UTC)
I need to find out how to make my rally cars handle like that Escort.
May the forced induction be with you.

Alice >>>>>>>>>> Keira
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#1507 Posted : Saturday, July 4, 2020 7:02:27 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Jezza14 Go to Quoted Post
I’ve been trying Bree’s Zenvo tune. I decided fairly swiftly I wasn’t going to beat my CCGT time at Edinburgh West, so switched to Holyrood Run. Have managed 18th so far in 1.45.4. I can probably find a bit more time (and 12th is only 0.4 ahead) but I think I’d struggle to crack the top 10.

Thanks for giving it a try. That's about the level I thought it probably was - quite decent, but not able to challenge the meta. At the level of taking half a second off, it's possible a different build could do that, Rayne's front aero version can maybe go that bit faster. I wasn't really driving well enough to be a good enough tester now to discern differences of that size.
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#1508 Posted : Saturday, July 4, 2020 10:43:27 AM(UTC)
No worries Bree. ISAD has a video up on it and it looks to be middle of the pack for him as well. The general chat seems to be the Zenvo is at its best in the wet, so I might find somewhere to test it in those conditions with one of the shared wet builds.
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#1509 Posted : Friday, July 10, 2020 1:09:29 PM(UTC)
Just been running a bit of Broadway Crossfire if anyone wants to have a few runs at my times. Using slightly off meta:

S2 - 1.48.926 (14th) - McLaren 720S PO
S1 - 2.00.037 (9th) - ATS
A - 2.17.387 (14th) - AR 4C

Will see if I can find some more time in those cars before switching.

Edit, slightly improved times:

S1 - 1.59.536 (7th) - ATS
A - 2.16.370 (11th) - Countach

Edited by user Friday, July 10, 2020 3:59:18 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#1510 Posted : Saturday, July 11, 2020 12:13:23 AM(UTC)
Gone a bit quicker at A class in a Roadster but 6 seconds off the competitive pace in that car, I struggle with this course a lot, easy to get it very wrong in a few places.
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#1511 Posted : Wednesday, July 22, 2020 4:24:19 AM(UTC)
I went back to Marathon in Rayne’s Peugeot last night and closed to within 0.6 seconds of the number 1 A class time, set in a D type Jag. It can definitely go a couple of seconds quicker or more but I couldn’t quite manage to get a run where I didn’t make an small error somewhere. The concentration required to throttle control for 7 minutes seems to be on my limit! Will probably try and have another crack at it at the weekend with a clear head.
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#1512 Posted : Sunday, October 4, 2020 4:03:44 AM(UTC)
hello :P
Anyone want to revive this thread?

Anyway, since we was posting our C-class times in "Autumn"
Lakehurst Woodland Scramble ->
That dirty lap was spot on. Especially was very happy with that part where you enter dirt. Unfortunatelly messed up last corner :(
Can't decide if it is better to go around the fence or go through it? Any opinion?

Derwent Reservoir Trail -> Rayne SE - how does your Talbot launch so much better? Racing gearbox with custom gearing?
And is that a proper way to take that corner after crossing the dam?

Also I have a problem with handling in Talbot. I'm using stock suspension, so it is like understeer-understeer-understeer-back end kicks out or I end up in the wall. Anyone know way to cure it? Maybe reducing width of back tires would help?
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#1513 Posted : Sunday, October 4, 2020 10:50:22 AM(UTC)
I've done a few with the '74 Civic and every time I can beat my Talbot time, so the Honda seems to be a little better pretty much everywhere. I've shared my tune, but I think it was only the first build I tried, so it may well be possible to make a better build. The #1 on Derwent Reservoir Trail has slower launch than me, but is a bit faster on the straights. One thing the #1 does is use the wall on the right to slow down for the first braking zone, I think he may also be a better driver than me, as it's not easy to get that spot on.
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#1514 Posted : Sunday, October 4, 2020 11:17:02 AM(UTC)
Managed to get down to a 31.5 in Monthly. Current approach is to stick in 4th for the long hairpin at the start but drop to 3rd for the nasty right hander and only hit 5th over the start finish line. I’m finding the car reasonably stable to drive using that approach. How the top guys are doing a whole second faster though is insane.

I’ll try out some of the C class cars this week.
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#1515 Posted : Sunday, October 4, 2020 2:21:53 PM(UTC)
I hope 1 of you can get something from the HOF circuit, the contest will give prizes to the highest ranked player in every country it's available in so getting the #1 time's not necessarily required.

Got mine to 32.199 last week but with automatic I don't think there's much better to be got there certainly not from me, I can only come to the conclusion of cheating for that player who's around 1.5 seconds quicker with auto + traction control + stability control on, surely that time is not obtainable by normal means with that set-up?
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#1516 Posted : Sunday, October 4, 2020 5:37:10 PM(UTC)
The weakest “winning” time currently is Canada but even that’s sub 31, so you’ve got to be incredible to have a shot. I suspect I could get around top 100 if I sweated out hundreds of laps but there’s no chance I could get the 30.6 lead UK time. That’s just way beyond my ability.

If you want to go quicker, then an option is to put manual on and stay in fourth gear for the whole lap so you don’t have to change anyway. Sub 32 is definitely possible with that approach.

They have removed the cheat times that were near the top of the leaderboard by the way - they were deleted on Friday I think and, last time I checked, no new ones had appeared. Shows they can do it when there is a prize on the line.

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#1517 Posted : Sunday, October 4, 2020 11:27:33 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: ziperrPL Go to Quoted Post
hello :P
Anyone want to revive this thread?

Anyway, since we was posting our C-class times in "Autumn"
Lakehurst Woodland Scramble ->
That dirty lap was spot on. Especially was very happy with that part where you enter dirt. Unfortunatelly messed up last corner :(
Can't decide if it is better to go around the fence or go through it? Any opinion?

Derwent Reservoir Trail -> Rayne SE - how does your Talbot launch so much better? Racing gearbox with custom gearing?
And is that a proper way to take that corner after crossing the dam?

Also I have a problem with handling in Talbot. I'm using stock suspension, so it is like understeer-understeer-understeer-back end kicks out or I end up in the wall. Anyone know way to cure it? Maybe reducing width of back tires would help?


I'm using custom aligned gears for the Talbot, correct. 1st set as short as needed to keep the rpm high during launch. With the stock Sports gearing it dropped too low.
I can't quite recall how I did the turn after the dam? During some tries I went too far and onto the banking on the other side of the road. Sometimes I did cost time, sometimes it didn't. Better not to do so I guess :D

I'm also using stock suspension but with lowest rear-aero, 1/65 arbs and 15/0, 35/17, 65% rear diff I hadn't had many problems with understeer. It doesn't like fast weight transfer though. Definitely required smoother steering input and more "planing ahead" through the sweeping turns.

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#1518 Posted : Sunday, October 4, 2020 11:38:36 PM(UTC)
@Jezza:
Nicely done with the 31.5 with the Senna. Maybe I give it another try but I simply don't like the track and neither the stock Senna. Too many arbitrary lines needed at Horizon Festival Circuit.

As a side note: I revisited our shared #1 at Fortune Island Kraken B700 and noticed it got beaten by two drivers. From my testing at Holyrood I imagined the '97 Civic would be good at the Kraken and I got #1 back - at least the last time I checked. It always has been the best FWD road car in Forza titles and unless T10 completely overhauls the PI System for Forza 8 it'll probably stay this way.
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#1519 Posted : Monday, October 5, 2020 7:03:45 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Rayne SE Go to Quoted Post
I'm also using stock suspension but with lowest rear-aero, 1/65 arbs and 15/0, 35/17, 65% rear diff I hadn't had many problems with understeer. It doesn't like fast weight transfer though. Definitely required smoother steering input and more "planing ahead" through the sweeping turns.

That is what I use. Only difference is 40/0 for rear diff.
Will take a look at racing gearbox. Thank you :)

@understeer - ok, it is not that bad, but for me it lacks front end grip. Was testing sport suspension for Derwent, but I didn't notice any difference.

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#1520 Posted : Monday, October 5, 2020 7:13:52 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Rayne SE Go to Quoted Post
@Jezza:
Nicely done with the 31.5 with the Senna. Maybe I give it another try but I simply don't like the track and neither the stock Senna. Too many arbitrary lines needed at Horizon Festival Circuit.

As a side note: I revisited our shared #1 at Fortune Island Kraken B700 and noticed it got beaten by two drivers. From my testing at Holyrood I imagined the '97 Civic would be good at the Kraken and I got #1 back - at least the last time I checked. It always has been the best FWD road car in Forza titles and unless T10 completely overhauls the PI System for Forza 8 it'll probably stay this way.


Still something like .01 behind your time but feels a pretty solid time on not too much effort (more than you but only about 50 laps total) and I’m in a similar position regarding my dislike of track and car. I’ll probably have one more 25-30 lap stint chasing a 31.0 ghost and see if that helps me gain a couple more tenths but I’m not going to put too much more time into it.

I saw you’d gone quicker on Kraken. HorizonFra seems to keep a very close eye on his WRs, as several times I’ve overtaken times by him only for him to very quickly jump back ahead. He’s done that on this one as well (assuming he was the previous record holder) as he’s a second or so quicker than you in his Roadster (which is far too good at too many events in B).

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#1521 Posted : Monday, October 5, 2020 7:24:10 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: TheGillesMuller Go to Quoted Post
I hope 1 of you can get something from the HOF circuit, the contest will give prizes to the highest ranked player in every country it's available in so getting the #1 time's not necessarily required.

Got mine to 32.199 last week but with automatic I don't think there's much better to be got there certainly not from me, I can only come to the conclusion of cheating for that player who's around 1.5 seconds quicker with auto + traction control + stability control on, surely that time is not obtainable by normal means with that set-up?


I think it's a draw, meaning that your time doesn't matter. When I read the description it said do the rivals to enter the draw.

Edited by user Monday, October 5, 2020 3:13:22 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#1522 Posted : Monday, October 5, 2020 12:47:18 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Jezza14 Go to Quoted Post
The weakest “winning” time currently is Canada but even that’s sub 31, so you’ve got to be incredible to have a shot. I suspect I could get around top 100 if I sweated out hundreds of laps but there’s no chance I could get the 30.6 lead UK time. That’s just way beyond my ability.

If you want to go quicker, then an option is to put manual on and stay in fourth gear for the whole lap so you don’t have to change anyway. Sub 32 is definitely possible with that approach.

They have removed the cheat times that were near the top of the leaderboard by the way - they were deleted on Friday I think and, last time I checked, no new ones had appeared. Shows they can do it when there is a prize on the line.



Just curious to know whether a fair few of those times were set using PC? If so would they be eligible for the Xbox Hall of Fame? Be stupid if they were as it has become quite obvious no one using Xbox will beat a PC time if that PC user uses a cheat hack to bump up their time ever so slightly to make it not look like they cheated.

Might have a quick browse myself to see how many actually are PC times.

Oh and don't get me wrong, i know there are plenty of PC players who don't cheat too.

Edited by user Monday, October 5, 2020 1:02:35 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#1523 Posted : Monday, October 5, 2020 5:09:22 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: AquaPainter168 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: TheGillesMuller Go to Quoted Post
I hope 1 of you can get something from the HOF circuit, the contest will give prizes to the highest ranked player in every country it's available in so getting the #1 time's not necessarily required.

Got mine to 32.199 last week but with automatic I don't think there's much better to be got there certainly not from me, I can only come to the conclusion of cheating for that player who's around 1.5 seconds quicker with auto + traction control + stability control on, surely that time is not obtainable by normal means with that set-up?


I think it's a draw, meaning that your time doesn't matter. When I read the description it said do the rivals to enter the draw.


There are prizes of an Xbox Series X console for the best times. Then there is a draw for all entrants to win a year's Game Pass Ultimate.
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#1524 Posted : Monday, October 5, 2020 5:29:23 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Jezza14 Go to Quoted Post
I saw you’d gone quicker on Kraken. HorizonFra seems to keep a very close eye on his WRs, as several times I’ve overtaken times by him only for him to very quickly jump back ahead. He’s done that on this one as well (assuming he was the previous record holder) as he’s a second or so quicker than you in his Roadster (which is far too good at too many events in B).

I had a go at Kraken B after reading your post. I tried the '74 Civic and Pulsar, but while they are good on straights, they don't gain enough time to make up for the twisty bits. I used my own Roadster tune and felt like I was mainly losing out due to my driving rather than my tune being slower than HorizonFra's. I feel I do badly when the bit of the world I need to look at is off the side of the screen, which is the case for many corners on Kraken. I know it's the same for everyone, but I feel I cope with it less well than other people. So I can tell my lines are often really bad, but I can't fix it because I can't see what I need to be looking at. I ended up looking at the mini map while driving through some corners to try to judge when to get on the throttle.

Rayne, is it your own '97 Civic Tune? I had a go at making FWD tunes of the '97 and '74 Civic. The '74 Civic seems to be unviable as FWD because the gearbox upgrades cost huge PI, so you're stuck with terrible gear ratios. The '97 seems to have a basically broken PI evaluation where you save 1 PI for becoming able to change the final drive ratio. But I tried it for Cotswolds Sprint, and couldn't match the top '97 Civic. I tried Suimin's tune, but wasn't able to match the top '97 Civic ghost with that either.
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#1525 Posted : Monday, October 5, 2020 10:43:02 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: breeminator Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Jezza14 Go to Quoted Post
I saw you’d gone quicker on Kraken. HorizonFra seems to keep a very close eye on his WRs, as several times I’ve overtaken times by him only for him to very quickly jump back ahead. He’s done that on this one as well (assuming he was the previous record holder) as he’s a second or so quicker than you in his Roadster (which is far too good at too many events in B).

I had a go at Kraken B after reading your post. I tried the '74 Civic and Pulsar, but while they are good on straights, they don't gain enough time to make up for the twisty bits. I used my own Roadster tune and felt like I was mainly losing out due to my driving rather than my tune being slower than HorizonFra's. I feel I do badly when the bit of the world I need to look at is off the side of the screen, which is the case for many corners on Kraken. I know it's the same for everyone, but I feel I cope with it less well than other people. So I can tell my lines are often really bad, but I can't fix it because I can't see what I need to be looking at. I ended up looking at the mini map while driving through some corners to try to judge when to get on the throttle.

Rayne, is it your own '97 Civic Tune? I had a go at making FWD tunes of the '97 and '74 Civic. The '74 Civic seems to be unviable as FWD because the gearbox upgrades cost huge PI, so you're stuck with terrible gear ratios. The '97 seems to have a basically broken PI evaluation where you save 1 PI for becoming able to change the final drive ratio. But I tried it for Cotswolds Sprint, and couldn't match the top '97 Civic. I tried Suimin's tune, but wasn't able to match the top '97 Civic ghost with that either.


The '97 Civic allows for many different builds on B. For the Kraken I used a FWD Race tires build because cornering gip is more important than acceleration there and thanks to the low drag value of the car it reaches high enough speeds without engine upgrades.
For Cotswolds I would probably go with stock tires, front aero and Race centrifugal supercharger.
The Race tires build is definitely my favourite though.

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