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#26 Posted : Friday, August 14, 2020 9:48:56 PM(UTC)
The Trial - I know Cross Country is overdone, but I enjoy it. And these tracks are pretty pleasant...though Force barriers can have their effect, there is still plenty of room to run. I knew I was taking the Trailcat through; it has good speed and is very stable. Also ran the Toyota. It has better speed but is a little more skittish and terrain is def a bit wonky. I have long discounted the Mini X-Raid for no reason in particular...but I came in 2nd to it during the first race. Beat it the other two but it definitely showed me it is worth consideration. Soooo, gonna tune it up and see what it gets me. lol
2016 Jeep Trailcat Tune: 228 168 177
1993 Toyota T100 Baja Tune: 393 150 401

PGG - I already had this tuned up from last week so figured why not? It is narrow and short, so turning over is a concern...but actually handles the bumps well and is short enough that when it does turn over, often it rights itself so you don't reset. It's light, moves well, and redirects pretty quickly.
1976 CJ5 Renegade Tune: 188 733 478

Blizzard Mountain - Okay, so the RS200 was a given. It almost seems unfair. It is the Swiss Army Car. It's fast, grippy, runs good on dirt, gravel, and snow. Took first by a long shot. So after I ran it, I knew I wanted to try something else. Enter the 911. It's faster than the RS200 though not quite as grippy. You have to anticipate your turns a little more. Now, for whatever reason, I tend to have issues with this Scramble in particular. I win, but it's rarely clean and at times, would definitely lose my racing license, lol. Both cars did very well, but the Porsche seemed completely in its element. Sweeping through turns, barreling down straights. I could never put together a 100% solid run...would nail this turn but fudge another. Then fudge this turn but nail the other. So I'm gonna fire up some Rivals and see what I can do with a few runs under my belt. Should be fun.
1986 Hoonigan Ford RS200 Evo Tune: 167 032 028
1991 Hoonigan Porsche 911 Turbo Tune: 161 908 561

Midnight Battle - I was going to tune up the Bentley for some other event but never got around to it. So now was the time. Had to reconfigure a little bit to get it where I wanted, and then let it go. Ok, so this thing pulls. It accelerates well, a little doggy on the steering but still plenty workable. Perhaps a little more work on the tuning is required. During any uphill portions, especially the last circuit race, it just pulled beautifully. Easy wins.
2013 Bentley Continental GT FE Tune: 152 587 536

Like a Boss - This one worried me. I'm not strong in the upper S2 region, though have definitely been getting better. And with this being a Winter race, was not looking forward to it. Had raced a Veryon before and found it lacking so I wanted a different direction. So many great classic vehicles but I know bringing them up to S2 990's is a bit of a stretch. Saw the Veneno, but then the Centenario was sitting right there. And man, it just looks so good. So there's my decision-making process. lol. Hopped it up a little bit and took a chance with Race tires instead of Snow hoping for clear roads. In the clear, this thing is amazing. Quick off the line, fast, and very grippy. It does suffer a bit once you hit the snow but still workable. Might try a version with snow tires and see how that compares.
2016 Lamborghini Centenario LP 770-4 Tune: 747 926 417

PR Stunts
Trap - 2017 Ferrari 812 Superfast Tune: 906 501 166
Zone - 2018 VW #94 ID R Tune: 220 347 284
Danger Sign - 2017 Ferrari 812 Superfast. I have a 1000+ ft jump with a continuous run up in a Lambo Huracan on this very Danger Sign. So I was tempted to bring it out. But I have done up an 812 Super for doing particular things (currently inspired by a vid I saw of a 10-second jump. I'm currently just under 9 secs..so yeah, lol) so I figured I'd just run the Ferrari instead. Took a few tries to get through that tunnel, but eventually once it hit, it carries easily.
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#27 Posted : Saturday, August 15, 2020 1:58:22 AM(UTC)
Hello,

Cars/tunes/suggestions for this weeks seasonal for those that find such useful. All tunes are my own, unless otherwise noted, all shared by myself (or others). ~ tune name / share code. If you use anything offered here, and you like it/it was useful to you, please don't forget to leave a like.

Originally Posted by: WangKeRui Go to Quoted Post
Online:
**Trial: "Tobogganing" | Cross Country | (A800) Extreme Offroad
**Car used: 1993 Toyota #1 T100 Baja Truck (Autoshow 500,000 Cr)
**Tune: A800 CC Offroad / 637 166 137

... this weeks trial was among the smoothest I have had in recent weeks. Using a previous trial/solo event tune... Tune is AWD, with 6.2L V8 engine swap.

**Seasonal Playground Games | Mudkickers' | (A800) Offroad
**Car used: 2017 Ford F-150 Raptor (Autoshow 63,000 Cr)
**Tune: A800 CC Offroad / 138 009 364

Again this is an older tune, but I know it preforms well at this location for games ... very stable considering arena, hard to roll over. Tune is engine swapped for 5.8L V8, twin turbo, offroad tires.

PR Stunts:
- Bridlewood Speed Zone, 2018 McLaren Senna - 'New S2 Road Race' (111 960 179) by Don Joewon Song,
- Astmoor Speed Trap, 2019 Rimac Concept Two - 'PR Stunt Rally' (120 633 544),
- Mudkickers' Showjump Danger Sign, 2019 Rimac Concept Two - 'PR Stunt Rally' (120 633 544).


Solo championships - Raced against Expert, Steering: Simulation, ABS: on, Traction/Stability; Off, Gearbox: Auto.

**Championship: "Midnight Battle" | Street Scene | (S1 900) Track Toys
**Car used: 2014 BAC Mono (Autoshow 160,000 Cr)
**Tune: S1 Road Winter / 153 624 733

My experience, once in front, the A.I. stop been an issue. Very quick and nimble track toy, can be great for avoiding oncoming traffic if you see it too late, otherwise, fast acceleration makes recovering from non devastating collisions a breeze. Tune is AWD running snow/rally tires.

**Championship: "Like a Boss" | Road Racing | (S2 998) High Rollers
**Car used: 2008 Maserati MC12 Versione Corsa (HTF)
**Tune: S2 Road Snow / 127 796 928

Car/tune is capable, I am not so capable with S2, but managed, so anyone better than I should have no issues. In my races the problem A.I. car (or the visible model the A.I. used) was the Lego Bugatti, which seemed to be way too fast compared to the other A.I. including another Lego Bugatti, in case others encounter similar, this will be the challenge car to you. While grip, and handling (10) on this car is high, I had trouble at points keeping it on the track, however this could be very much driver error, and not a car/tuning issue. Tune is AWD with snow/rally tires, stock aero is an near max.

**Championship: "Blizzard Mountains" | Dirt Racing | (S1 900) Hoonigan
**Car used: 1978 Hoonigan Ford Escort RS1800 (Autoshow 300,000 Cr)
**Tune: S900 Rally Trial / 680 307 281

Somewhat skittish, but easily capable winner for these winter events. Tune/car is slightly on the unstable side (I think this nature is built into the model, as tuning it out is difficult), yet this makes it very fast and quick on corners, and recovering if need be (as long as not over corrected). Will win with some lead (expert). Tune is AWD, turbo, snow/rally tires, Forza air with mud-flaps.

Have fun.

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#28 Posted : Saturday, August 15, 2020 3:09:23 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Crocodilu Go to Quoted Post
Summer/Spring/Autumn - C and D races
Winter - S2 S1

Good stuff.

This is why I want to thank PGG for reminding me that this kind of "trolling" is why I will NOT buy another Horizon.
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#29 Posted : Sunday, August 16, 2020 9:04:46 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: WangKeRui Go to Quoted Post

**Championship: "Like a Boss" | Road Racing | (S2 998) High Rollers
**Car used: 2008 Maserati MC12 Versione Corsa (HTF)
**Tune: S2 Road Snow / 127 796 928

Car/tune is capable, I am not so capable with S2, but managed, so anyone better than I should have no issues. In my races the problem A.I. car (or the visible model the A.I. used) was the Lego Bugatti, which seemed to be way too fast compared to the other A.I. including another Lego Bugatti, in case others encounter similar, this will be the challenge car to you. While grip, and handling (10) on this car is high, I had trouble at points keeping it on the track, however this could be very much driver error, and not a car/tuning issue. Tune is AWD with snow/rally tires, stock aero is an near max.


So I gave it a few runs and it is indeed a pretty capable tune. It owns the Edinburgh City Sprint, it's got that nice, dry road surface. Once you get to Glen Rannoch, though, those snowy roads, the back end wants to sway. The first time I ran it, I faced a Bugatti Chiron (non-Lego version) that I just could not catch. I could get close to it, but never in a position to get around it. It ran about 7 seconds faster than the next AI and it was an S2 933 at that, lol With Astmoor, same behavior, the end just wants to swing. But at least on a circuit, you can set up the turns a little better but I'd never be able to run it in Rivals...lol. Every lap would get flagged for some contact somewhere. Ran it a few times and there is always a second-place car that is seconds ahead of any other AI. Going to try my own tune to see if I can do any better, just gotta get that rear-wheel traction under control otherwise it's great.

I then adjusted my Centenario. I put on Snow tires and was able to hop up the engine a little more. It was about the same as before through Edinburgh, but def seconds faster through Glen and Astmoor. This time I had the Lego Chiron as the fast AI. Not sure if the Chiron is on purpose or just a coincidence. But I think that is standard for Expert/Pro runs, there always seems to be one car in my rearview while the rest were gone.

Updated Tune: 130 276 980 Lambo Centenario


The Trial revisited - I also need to give an apology to the Mini X-Raid. I'm not sure why I never took it seriously, but since the other day when I saw it perform for the Trial, it has been on my mind. Soooo, tuned up one. I was concerned because the metrics had the speed as 6.3. I know there is no hard and fast rule about what those numbers mean, but they should be a ballpark representation. Well, anyway, my 6.3 Mini is faster overall than my 6.8 Trailcat and my 7.2 T100 Baja. lol. It ran well, was stable, handled the uneven terrain better than I thought and made it through obstacles really well. So yeah, much respect now. The only thing I'd be concerned about is with it being narrow, off-angle ramps might cause it more problems over the wider Trailcat or Baja with those huge tires.

Mini X-Raid All4 Racing Countryman Tune: 182 485 923

Edited by user Sunday, August 16, 2020 9:09:13 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#30 Posted : Sunday, August 16, 2020 12:41:40 PM(UTC)
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Edited by user Monday, August 17, 2020 4:58:18 AM(UTC)  | Reason: A stupid off-topic post.

May the forced induction be with you.

Alice >>>>>>>>>> Keira
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#31 Posted : Sunday, August 16, 2020 4:40:19 PM(UTC)
oops

Edited by user Sunday, August 16, 2020 4:44:38 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#32 Posted : Sunday, August 16, 2020 4:40:33 PM(UTC)
IngoingCake8592 wrote:


The Trial revisited - I also need to give an apology to the Mini X-Raid. I'm not sure why I never took it seriously, but since the other day when I saw it perform for the Trial, it has been on my mind. Soooo, tuned up one. I was concerned because the metrics had the speed as 6.3. I know there is no hard and fast rule about what those numbers mean, but they should be a ballpark representation. Well, anyway, my 6.3 Mini is faster overall than my 6.8 Trailcat and my 7.2 T100 Baja. lol. It ran well, was stable, handled the uneven terrain better than I thought and made it through obstacles really well. So yeah, much respect now. The only thing I'd be concerned about is with it being narrow, off-angle ramps might cause it more problems over the wider Trailcat or Baja with those huge tires.


Like you I never took the Mini X-Raid seriously but today I thought 'what the heck, why not?' for The Trial and wow what a surprise, had no problems aside from my own mistakes.
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#33 Posted : Sunday, August 16, 2020 4:40:59 PM(UTC)
oops

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#34 Posted : Sunday, August 16, 2020 7:07:30 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: latotheX Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Crocodilu Go to Quoted Post
Summer/Spring/Autumn - C and D races
Winter - S2 S1

Good stuff.

This is why I want to thank PGG for reminding me that this kind of "trolling" is why I will NOT buy another Horizon.


So, ...you'd rather run C and D races in winter snow? That's hard core; awesome! 🤪😄😦🙄😑
"Every train needs a caboose, right?"
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#35 Posted : Sunday, August 16, 2020 7:25:51 PM(UTC)
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Edited by user Monday, August 17, 2020 7:03:56 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

"Every train needs a caboose, right?"
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#36 Posted: : Monday, August 17, 2020 4:53:26 AM(UTC)
The Trial this week is A800 CC. I don't get the complaints, myself. A800 is the best class for Extreme Offroad.

The Championships are S1/S2, but, seriously, it's offline. Just spam rewind. Pretty sure there's some offroad capable cars in the High Roller category as well.

Edited by user Monday, August 17, 2020 4:57:01 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

May the forced induction be with you.

Alice >>>>>>>>>> Keira
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#37 Posted : Monday, August 17, 2020 5:08:08 AM(UTC)
I agree, this trial was really good (played it 4 times). I even tried "stock" WP Baja and was first every time.
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#38 Posted : Monday, August 17, 2020 9:05:49 AM(UTC)
Decided to play these offline championships after all, since I had nothing better to do.

Man, they're complete ***.. I apologize to the fellow member whom I criticized.

I tried the High Rollers championship in a 911 GT1. RWD of course (I refuse to convert). Second race was in the snow. Undrivable. Changed to Centenario. Still very difficult.

The other one was the Track Toys championship. On the snow. Yeah, don't you know Porsche built the GT3 for winter events? They race on the snowy Nürburgring all the time!

Except not.

I think the person at Playground who picked them is a complete idiot. Does not know cars. Does not know how to have fun driving cars. Should not be allowed near a car game ever again. Fire this guy/gal. Or send them to Fable team or something.
May the forced induction be with you.

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#39 Posted : Monday, August 17, 2020 9:29:19 AM(UTC)
Hmm, I sense a challenge. Gonna do a RWD Porsche for the High Rollers. I had great luck with the Centenario...though did have to change to snow tires because the second two races just made it a bit hairy.

The RWD cars just seem overly torque-y to me. Like they are just waiting to break traction. Now part of that is I don't have pedals, so I can't feather like I normally would as I'm driving...gotta somehow translate that into a trigger. But we'll see.
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#40 Posted : Monday, August 17, 2020 9:56:36 AM(UTC)
I managed 3rd with Porsche 911 GT1 RWD, +TC at highly skilled on keyboard.
Lambo Sesto Elemento is AWD by default and it also does good on snow tires, not as good as Veneno, but still.
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#41 Posted : Monday, August 17, 2020 10:12:04 AM(UTC)
Maybe, but we've already established you are an alien, and therefore don't count. lol
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#42 Posted : Monday, August 17, 2020 10:27:26 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: IngoingCake8592 Go to Quoted Post
Hmm, I sense a challenge. Gonna do a RWD Porsche for the High Rollers. I had great luck with the Centenario...though did have to change to snow tires because the second two races just made it a bit hairy.

The RWD cars just seem overly torque-y to me. Like they are just waiting to break traction. Now part of that is I don't have pedals, so I can't feather like I normally would as I'm driving...gotta somehow translate that into a trigger. But we'll see.


LOL I'm sorry for the rude tone but I had an AI in the Agera RS outaccelerating me in the corners... Think about it.

I ran slicks TBH. Lazy, I know. But do they really expect me to change builds just for this championship?

P.S.: I didn't use aero either.
May the forced induction be with you.

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#43 Posted : Monday, August 17, 2020 10:40:35 AM(UTC)
I wouldn’t blame you for being lazy. S2 on snow is ridiculous tbh.
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#44 Posted : Monday, August 17, 2020 1:16:47 PM(UTC)
Thought I give this championship a go in a RWD car as well.
Worked out better than expected with the Agera RS. No driving aids, managed 1st, 1st & 1st against unbeatable AI.
Only doable with manual though. Every gear below 5th wasn't drivable.
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#45 Posted : Monday, August 17, 2020 5:44:35 PM(UTC)
Ok, so, I ran Midnight Battle with a 2012 Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0.
RWD, snow tires, heavy aero, engine mods but no turbo. I did not want the spooling to break grip all the time esp in mid-turn. Ran it with no mods, except ABS.
It did surprisingly well. Took all firsts. The second race by a ton. A snow plow may or may not have helped. This is why I wish you could review from other cars' perspectives. I just looked back at one point and they were gone...and that happened at some point after I narrowly avoided getting completely obliterated by a snow plow. So dunno. But it handled the turns well, never felt out of control, just hovered on that lovely edge. A good ride.
Tune: 889 633 552

Then I ran Like a Boss with a 1998 Porsche 911 GT1 Strassenversion.
RWD, snow tires, full aero, max turbo, etc up to S2 998. Needed pretty much everything on it to get the numbers up.
Soooo...not quite as relaxed as the GT3. I ran the first race with no mods. ABS only. All those turns made it tough to keep the back end in line. Managed 4th, nearly had 3rd. Could def improve. Ran the second race no mods. Yeah, not gonna happen. lol. In the snow, so little traction just could not manage any turns and stay competitive. Ran it again with traction control and took 5th, had a shot at 4th. Could def improve. Ran the final race, the circuit, and took 1st. Not as much wall riding as you might think, but a few love taps here and there. However, to get into second and finally first, I think I may have violated the terms of my racing license. Pretty sure the officials at Forza will blacklist me for those maneuvers. lol. In the end, I tied pointwise but it gave me the win. So yay. 4th, 5th, then 1st equals a Championship victory. So, will I play with the tune a little more and try to get it smoother and better? No. Not at all. It was fun to do, glad I got through it, but that is not how I like to race. 1000+ bhp, 837 ft-lb torque and RWD only in the snow? No thanks. Now, throw AWD on it and take it out in Autumn? Absolutely. lol
Tune: 159 783 154

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#46 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2020 5:12:24 AM(UTC)
Ok, Porsche 911 GT1 S2 995 RWD, switched to manual+clutch transmission, left TC on and with highly skilled, won all 3 events


Now I have to let my keyboard to cool down ... lol
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#47 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2020 8:42:12 AM(UTC)
Nicely done. Yeah, I'm still running auto. I think that needs to be my next evolution in this game, I feel like I am missing out.

And I didn't want to do it again...but now I gotta. Not to beat you, but just knowing that I could do better than what I've already done.
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#48 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2020 9:34:41 AM(UTC)
Feel free to beat me, I don't mind :) Good luck/speed :)

Doing this, I'm now even more sure into my decision to convert everything into AWD.
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#49 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2020 1:01:32 PM(UTC)
There are some cars that just have a good feel in RWD, I will admit. But if I need to throw the hammer down, especially with numerous corners and low traction...um, yeah, AWD it is.

So, ran it again after a little tweaking; changed the differential a little; lowered tire pressure; and kicked up the downforce a little. Much better. Still unruly...but much better. Still running auto, ABS, and this time traction control on all three tracks.

Placed 1st, 2nd, 1st. The first race, aside from those first two turns isn't so bad. From a standing start, I accelerate much less than everyone else so I have to claw through the pack, but there are plenty of places to pass and was in first by about halfway...before the circle part. The second race, again slow start but can make it through the pack provided you avoid them as they slide side to side. I caught up to the leader just before the downhill section but got owned after that. I feel if I could have snuck in front, with all the turns would have been easy to block and hold position...but as it was, I just could not make any more ground. Third race, the circuit. I had to do this one twice. I think I found the car NightDriver was talking about. Mind you, this was the track I already placed first on. Dude was on fire. Finished six seconds ahead of the next AI. On a relatively small circuit. S2 class. Second time, it took me all the way to the second-to-last turn to nudge in front of him and finish 1st. Again, six seconds ahead of the next AI. Like wow.

Anyway, I did it. I'm done. Enjoy the challenges, I'm taking a nap. lol
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#50 Posted : Tuesday, August 18, 2020 5:38:22 PM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: IngoingCake8592 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: WangKeRui Go to Quoted Post

**Championship: "Like a Boss" | Road Racing | (S2 998) High Rollers
**Car used: 2008 Maserati MC12 Versione Corsa (HTF)
**Tune: S2 Road Snow / 127 796 928
~~cut for clarity~~


So I gave it a few runs and it is indeed a pretty capable tune. It owns the Edinburgh City Sprint, it's got that nice, dry road surface. Once you get to Glen Rannoch, though, those snowy roads, the back end wants to sway. The first time I ran it, I faced a Bugatti Chiron (non-Lego version) that I just could not catch. I could get close to it, but never in a position to get around it. It ran about 7 seconds faster than the next AI and it was an S2 933 at that, lol With Astmoor, same behavior, the end just wants to swing. But at least on a circuit, you can set up the turns a little better but I'd never be able to run it in Rivals...lol. Every lap would get flagged for some contact somewhere. Ran it a few times and there is always a second-place car that is seconds ahead of any other AI. Going to try my own tune to see if I can do any better, just gotta get that rear-wheel traction under control otherwise it's great. ...


I don't quite recall how it ran at 'Glen Rannoch', but I do remember been very surprised at its behavior at 'Ashmoor Heritage circuit', which is also very snowy in the winter - while it is sort of controllable on the circuit track due to the layout of the track limiting ultimate top-speed, the fact it acted as if it was not on snow tires at all really confused me, to me it seemed the only grip it was getting was down-force from the aero add-ons - this was the first time I have felt a snow tire car act as such (I have had the experience of snow tire cars breaking traction in snow, just not to this extent), yet maybe this is because I don't try S2 very often, and is less of an issue in C, B, A -even S1 (another I don't often use)?

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