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#1 Posted : Thursday, June 27, 2019 8:40:50 AM(UTC)
I upgraded the diff on the car, yet i can't alter the gearing because it remains locked.

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#2 Posted : Thursday, June 27, 2019 8:48:04 AM(UTC)
It's because there's no gear box upgrade for the Rimac. The differential only unlocks the diff section of tuning and not the gearing. So until they add the gear box upgrade, we have to be EXTRA creative with the suspension and alignment just to even maybe get it past 260 mph. I mean the Koenigsegg Regera I think had one gear and can go faster than this car.

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#3 Posted : Thursday, June 27, 2019 8:54:55 AM(UTC)
Not a fan of it so far to be honest, it's weird driving without an engine sound. It also wheelspins a lot so i can barely take a corner without breaking traction.

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#4 Posted : Thursday, June 27, 2019 9:00:06 AM(UTC)
Yeah the only thing I'd probably use this vehicle for is auto drifting or for the #Forzathon Live events. This thing basically gets beaten by almost my entire garage. I do have to say though, I like the design of it. It's a really nice looking electric car, it's just too bad that it's full potential can't be brought out due to a single upgrade.
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#5 Posted : Thursday, June 27, 2019 10:00:26 AM(UTC)
I think everybody has the same opinion

The Rimac C_Two in Forza Horizon 4 has the worst gearbox of all time.

The Rimac has almost 1900 hp and could probably hit 300+ mph with ease but due to an non-upgradeable gearbox and the slowest topspeed for a hypercar with almost 1900 hp (260 mph topspeed)
the car just feels bad and worthless...

With a little fix we could get another 300+mph car and it would actually be competetive for X-Class races!



So please dear game devs




Just add a upgradeable gearbox to the Rimac


Thanks


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#6 Posted : Thursday, June 27, 2019 10:12:17 AM(UTC)
I definitely agree with this... It's Completely Ridiculous that we have an electric car that does it's World Premier in a game to have this low capacity modifying it.. We could seek on how great this car is, you made a video to show it with grace, and you give us this ? I feel more like i completely Wasted my Time with this season, I Hope that you fix this up on the Series 11 Else I'm Not even gonna play this game due of this Major Dissapointment !
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#7 Posted : Thursday, June 27, 2019 10:33:36 AM(UTC)
In the Update stream https://youtu.be/nrBtuNRXRHI at ~14:45 they actually talk about how it would be able to go 320 mph with the right gearing, so why not let us change the final drive then?
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#8 Posted : Thursday, June 27, 2019 11:56:07 AM(UTC)
Tested the Rimac at S998 on my regular test track.
The 2 possible builds from my perspective:

Off-road tires, sport weight reduction, full front & rear aero:
5:32.505
Race tires, full rear aero:
5:27.965

The off-road tires simply don't provide enough grip, so that even the front aero can't compensate it.
Race tires build feels better.

Some lap times as comparison to show how bad the Rimac is.
Bugatti Chiron 5:20.674
Hoonicorn 5:33.697
Ferrari F50 GT 5:05.834
It is roughly 12 seconds slower than the average S2 car.
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#9 Posted : Thursday, June 27, 2019 12:01:04 PM(UTC)
What kind of bothers me with forza in general is we have a lot of these hypercars with crazy power and unrealistically abysmal handling stats that get totally PI screwed. I'm not sure if its just to avoid making X class cars, but handling screwing probably some of the best handling cars isn't the way to go. Also some cars seem too big like the Chiron and Nissan GT-R; I couldn't believe how small they are in person when I went to a car show.

The poor Rimac is dying to out speed those glitchy 599xx Evos and Moslers. That 578 is just one km/h slower than the 1956 Jaguar D-type.

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#10 Posted : Thursday, June 27, 2019 12:55:38 PM(UTC)
The Rimac definitely seems like such a case. So much bhp and to squeeze it into S2 they gave it a horrendous handling value with which it achieves worse lateral g's than a bad S900 car.
Just out of curiosity I maxxed it to X-class and ran it on my circuit.
With a 5:13.xxx it's worse than the faster S2 998 cars.
They completely messed up the programming and PI calculation for the Rimac rendering it a useless piece of trash.
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#11 Posted : Thursday, June 27, 2019 3:06:12 PM(UTC)
Some people think that they did this for balance reasons. But don't forget this is the same company that has given the community 6 months of bone shaking. I can't fathom how such an exciting car has a locked gearbox and such awful performance. Has all the dev time been in Lego Island? I just don't get how this could make it live when they mentioned it doing 320mph on the livestream.
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#12 Posted : Thursday, June 27, 2019 3:19:10 PM(UTC)
I tried to tell people but they thought I was crazy.
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#13 Posted : Thursday, June 27, 2019 5:44:21 PM(UTC)
To say it in one sentence:

"Beauty over the beast"

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Simply meaning the graphics team done an amazing job whilst the programming team went on holiday to Lego Valley.

I actually liked the idea of the expansion, but have to admit that I'm being made to feel disappointed by a lack of real development and what seams 'rushed to market' approach lately.

A potential 320mph car limited to 260mph in a racing sim/arcade game doesn't make any sense, I'm lost for words. No doubt it's gearbox swap will be available in a virtual field plow :( sad times.

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#14 Posted : Thursday, June 27, 2019 7:24:51 PM(UTC)
Maaahaaann! What a streaming pile of **** this car is. No matter what tuning, the car will not hold onto the road.
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#15 Posted : Thursday, June 27, 2019 9:07:00 PM(UTC)
Sadly, They've Had To Rush it just for the... "Content Update" didn't they ? Maybe not but still... So much Potential... I'm sure if i told Gran Turismo to give us the access of another or that Rimac, and that they release it or them... They Will Make Sure that The Others or The C-Two to shine in they're game. Sadly i prefer to keep it for collection... I prefer that it rests on my garage until They do something due of this time that players will waste to get the car and get dissapointed. That's quite the most Shameful thing they've done in a game that presented so much issues over the AI Behavior but it seems they'll do nothing about it.
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#16 Posted : Thursday, June 27, 2019 9:25:58 PM(UTC)
I put up S2 998 race tire and rally tire road tunes that feel pretty good. It's heavy though, so keeping a careful line and braking is necessary. Getting used to two gears is really annoying after driving Manual/Clutch. It's probably best to stay in 2nd while above ~100 mph.

Overall, I think it would be less disappointing if it weren't for the S2 class covering such a wide performance gamut. We need some lower class Electric vehicles.

Edited by user Thursday, June 27, 2019 9:28:05 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#17 Posted : Thursday, June 27, 2019 9:35:44 PM(UTC)
Is anyone having a problem where after driving the Rimac for a while the sound starts to distort?
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#18 Posted : Friday, June 28, 2019 12:09:31 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: The Fast One744 Go to Quoted Post
Is anyone having a problem where after driving the Rimac for a while the sound starts to distort?


In races or in the open world?

The AI is pretty quick with the Rimac in the 1/4 mile drag race, I couldn't touch it with mine. I might have to turn on TCS.
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#19 Posted : Friday, June 28, 2019 1:06:46 AM(UTC)
to me if the wanted to balanced it for S2 .. give koenigseggs lvl of grip .. like 1.30 to 1.60 with aero or weight reduction .. plus limit the top speed to 210/220 .. then u get a speed S2 car with really high accel but low top speed with decent grip

then for x just unlock the gearing .. even if it goes in the 300 .. it wont be op agains 1.90 lateral g 599X
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#20 Posted : Friday, June 28, 2019 4:30:24 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: The Fast One744 Go to Quoted Post
Is anyone having a problem where after driving the Rimac for a while the sound starts to distort?


Yeah I experienced this as well. I restarted my Xbox and it went away. Also I am having issues with going really fast and my Xbox seems to have issues with keeping up with the graphics/scenery and have a lot of "white patches" and my vehicle comes to a complete stop.
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#21 Posted : Friday, June 28, 2019 5:04:08 AM(UTC)
I love this car because you can't do a lot of upgrades and it's unique handling. The 2 speed tranny is what the car actually has. Drive the car the way it is supposed to, there are other "rockets" you can make crazy and sometimes stupid upgrades for. This car tests your driving/racing abilities and that's what makes it fun for me. Thank you PG for this car!
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#22 Posted : Friday, June 28, 2019 5:04:18 AM(UTC)
Duplicate message removed

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#23 Posted : Friday, June 28, 2019 5:30:22 AM(UTC)
Originally Posted by: Alekru99 Go to Quoted Post
In the Update stream https://youtu.be/nrBtuNRXRHI at ~14:45 they actually talk about how it would be able to go 320 mph with the right gearing, so why not let us change the final drive then?


We decided not to allow the Rimac to have gear tuning due to some system limitations. We thought it may have been possible but it was mentioned in stream as a hypothetical scenario such as if the gearing was increased in real life. Apologies for the confusion.
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#24 Posted : Friday, June 28, 2019 5:58:31 AM(UTC)
@RetroKrystal, you posted the exact same message on Twitter in response to this too. Why not unlock the gearing and limit it to 300mph, if you're allowing the suspension glitching Ferrari and Mosler to break the 300mph barrier i see no reason why the Rimac can't do the same. System limitations is a load of bull anyway, go past 230mph while online and the road disappears along with traffic spawning directly in front of you. The game is already broken in that regard, just give us the gearbox upgrade and limit it to 300mph because this car isn't good at anything at the moment. It gets smoked at top end speed and has rings run around it when driving around a track because it's PI is so damn poor for a hypercar.
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#25 Posted : Friday, June 28, 2019 6:10:39 AM(UTC)
@RetroKrystal
So, all the PI that is eaten up by the power of the Rimac is completely useless due to the intended speed limiter. There are cars with 1/3 of the power which have a higher top speed, lower weight and better cornering.
No wonder it has one of the worst Performance/PI ratios in the whole game.
So please, try to either open up its top speed or fundamentally rebalance its PI value.
As I outlined above, even with all upgrades installed (being deep into X-class) it barely surpasses the average S2 lap times I achieved by extensive testing of every single S2 car.
Thus, in a fully upgraded state it wouldn't be overpowered for S998. Still a niche car but somewhat usable.

Currently, even the hopelessly overstrained Agera RS as RWD with sports(!) tires is better than this dud on S998.

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