Engine swaps makes hyper cars useless!!

[FortuneGT]

@Soules_Reaper

@FortuneGT

I’m fine with the engine swaps. I miss the old way it used to work, but at the same time the new way has some good qualities to it.

Back on the 360 the engine swaps were all manufacturer based. Chrysler had the 550 and the Viper V10, their REAL engines called out specifically that could be put in their cars. Mazda had the Furai engine for the MX5. Now, despite what people may call them (Insert Chevy LS and number) you get basic V8, V12, Rally 4 Turbo. While the numbers may line up to a specific engine it still doesn’t feel as authentic. The flipside is though you can put a V8 in an MX5, or a V12 in a Camaro, despite those manufacturers not making their own engine of that type.

Mopar 540 not 550. Not trying to be rude or anything lol. They took the manufacture names away cause they get by with a whole lot more like they are now where we can put a ls in a mazda and stuff like that. If they kept to using the actual names and from which car than there would be no mazda with an ls or mustang with an ls and more.

Totally agree, but we lost a lot of the fun engines in the process. There is no V10 (Viper or otherwise) for anything, even Mopar vehicles. There are pluses and minuses to both sides.

[ManteoMax]

@FortuneGT

Totally agree, but we lost a lot of the fun engines in the process. There is no V10 (Viper or otherwise) for anything, even Mopar vehicles. There are pluses and minuses to both sides.

@ManteoMax

602 hp / 413 torque 5.2L V10 (Lamborghini Huracan LP 610-4 '14)

Conversion Cost: 40,000 CR
Stock aspiration: Naturally Aspirated
Aspiration options: TT
Max. power output: 1,212 hp | 831 torque (twin turbo conversion)

Available in:

• Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione
• Aston Martin V8 Vantage V600, V8 Vantage, DB5
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• Bowler EXR S
• Ferrari California T, 458 S, 458 I, California, 430, Challenge Stradale, F355
• Jaguar F-TYPE Project 7 (and HE, Pre-Order), F-Type R, XKR-S, XFR-S, XJ220 (and HE), D-Type?, E-Type, XK120
• Lamborghini Huracan LP 610-4 (stock), Urus, Jalpa
• Land Rover Range Rover Sport SVR, Range Rover Supercharged, Defender 90
• Lotus Exige, Evora, Esprit
• Maserati GranTurismo S
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• Mercedes-AMG C63 S Coupe (and Pre-Order), GTS
• Mercedes-Benz E 63, SLK 55, C63 Black, SLS
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@ManteoMax

640 hp / 600 torque 8.4L V10 (SRT Viper GTS '13)

Conversion Cost: 25,000 CR
Stock aspiration: Naturally Aspirated
Aspiration options: TT, PDS, CS
Max. output: 1,128 hp | 997 torque (twin turbo conversion)

Available in (90+ models, muscle and offroad):

• AMC Javelin, Rebel
• Buick Regal GNX
• Cadillac CTS-V Sedan, CTS-V Coupe, Escalade
• Chevrolet Camaro '16, Camaro '15, Corvette '15 (and HE?), Super Sport, Corvette '09, Corvette '02, Corvette '95, Camaro '90, Monte Carlo, Camaro '79, Camaro '70, Chevelle '70 (and HE?), Corvette '70, El Camino, Camaro '69 (and HE?), Chevelle '76, Nova, mpala, Corvette '60, Bel Air
• Chrysler 300
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• GMC Syclone, Vandura
• Holden VL Commodore, Torana (and HE?), Sandman, HQ Monaro
• HSV Gen-F Maloo, GTS
• Hummer H1 Alpha
• Jeep Grand Cherokee, Grand Wagoneer, CJ5
• Lexus RCF, ISF
• Local Motors Rally Fighter
• Mercury Coupe
• Oldsmobile Hurst/Olds 442
• Plymouth Cuda, Fury
• Pontiac Firebird '87, '77, '73, GTO Judge
• Ram Runner
• Saleen S7
• Toyota FJ40

[CluffmeisterGen]

@FortuneGT

@Soules_Reaper

@FortuneGT

I’m fine with the engine swaps. I miss the old way it used to work, but at the same time the new way has some good qualities to it.

Back on the 360 the engine swaps were all manufacturer based. Chrysler had the 550 and the Viper V10, their REAL engines called out specifically that could be put in their cars. Mazda had the Furai engine for the MX5. Now, despite what people may call them (Insert Chevy LS and number) you get basic V8, V12, Rally 4 Turbo. While the numbers may line up to a specific engine it still doesn’t feel as authentic. The flipside is though you can put a V8 in an MX5, or a V12 in a Camaro, despite those manufacturers not making their own engine of that type.

Mopar 540 not 550. Not trying to be rude or anything lol. They took the manufacture names away cause they get by with a whole lot more like they are now where we can put a ls in a mazda and stuff like that. If they kept to using the actual names and from which car than there would be no mazda with an ls or mustang with an ls and more.

Totally agree, but we lost a lot of the fun engines in the process. There is no V10 (Viper or otherwise) for anything, even Mopar vehicles. There are pluses and minuses to both sides.

Fairly sure I have a viper engined range rover.

[Red_R0tor]

I love the motorswaps, but there needs to be more options. More V8 options specifically, be able to detune stock motors such as take the supercharger off of the ZR1 and make it n/a. Excluding the lower classes, tuning does make the biggest difference. There also needs to be more tight switchback roads that actually value true handling. The offroad sections seems to have some awesome roads and switchbacks, the problem is…I want asphalt!!!

[HLR_Juggernaut]

To be honest I really dont mind about the engine swaps.
The thign is we have way too much grip, In Motorsport we have too much grip excluding the very top of the line race cars, and in Horizon we have absurd amount of grip.
all the roads are very flowing (who uses roads anyway)
And some drivetrain conversions just dont make sence. (AWD BAC Mono for example, Drivetrain? Well we can put the drivetrain going trough the driver)
And you could probably fit Lambo V8 in to a Camaro, But turn in to AWD on top of that, Well realisticly it would need so extensive modification that it’s not a Camaro anymore, It might look like one, but all Camaro it has anymore is maybe couple square feet of sheetmetal…

To be honest I wasnt expecting much from this game, now I’m almost wishing that I would have saved my money…

[markvii1]

I have no real issues with the engine swaps other than there are not enough options. What I think would make the biggest difference as has been mentioned before is proper modeling of aerodynamics.

That way no matter how much HP you get out of it at some point the brick shaped car will just not go any faster. I used to own a 1988 ford bronco full size in real life and it had the 4.9liter straight six. It topped out at 90 with a C6 three speed automatic but I could never get it much over seventy purely because it was a giant box two feet up in the air. (After I put 35" tires on it it got even worse). But in Forza I can make a VW bus do 200mph without breaking a sweat. At that speed the bus would physically crumple in on itself like a submarine that dove too deep.