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HOW TO: G25 Pedals with MS Wheel!

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  •  09-24-2009, 4:19 PM 2975695

    HOW TO: G25 Pedals with MS Wheel!

    I lost my cable to connect the pedals to the wheel. Is it just a standard phone cable? (i'm not at home to try it.)

  •  09-24-2009, 4:34 PM 2975740 in reply to 2975695

    Re: MS Wheel Cable

    No man, the standart phone cable won´t work.

     

    U need a adsl cable with Rj11 connectors.

     The connector are the same from telephone cables, but it has 4 ways direct, no cros or something like that.

     

    http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/customer/product.php?productid=1475&cat=200&page=1

     

    ADSL RJ11 Cable

     

    Just like this.

     

    I live in Brazil and bought one of 3 meters for only two dollars.

     

    I works very well!!!!!

     

     

  •  09-24-2009, 4:39 PM 2975757 in reply to 2975695

    Re: MS Wheel Cable

    No idea mate, I lost my power cable but MS replaced it out of good faith, give them a call see if they can give you a replacement ;)
  •  09-24-2009, 4:43 PM 2975773 in reply to 2975695

    Re: MS Wheel Cable

    no telephone cables.

     The cable from MS Wheel has 4 direct wires, and the phone only have 2 working.

    Adsl cables will work. With RJ11 connector.

    I use one here

  •  09-24-2009, 7:25 PM 2976282 in reply to 2975773

    Re: MS Wheel Cable

    Alright. Well I wasn't able to get a cable to replace mine, so I found something better :)

     I also have a G25 and I discovered there is a way to use the G25 pedals with the MS wheel :)

     

    Using the pinout from here: http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?p=4002072 

    I plan on making a connector using a standard phone cable and a RB9 connector.

     All I'm missing now is the pinout for the 360 wheel. Any ideas?

    I did a quick search and found this: http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/2967686/ShowThread.aspx

    From that information it looks like the middle wires are the signal, and the outer are the power and ground? 

  •  09-24-2009, 9:01 PM 2976626 in reply to 2976282

    Re: MS Wheel Cable

    Alright. I think i have it done right. But before I test it, what would happen if a potentiometer is hooked up wrong? Could it get fried?
  •  09-24-2009, 9:09 PM 2976657 in reply to 2976626

    Re: MS Wheel Cable

    only one way to find out!Big Smile
  •  09-24-2009, 9:52 PM 2976828 in reply to 2976657

    Re: MS Wheel Cable

    It works! It's even more responsive than the MS pedals. :)

     For future reference on how to do this.

     I got a DB9 Female connector from radioshack. http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103806 (no soldering required, it's a crimp)

     A standard phone cable (RJ11).

     1. Cut one end of the phone cable off and strip each of the smaller wires inside. (should be 4 different colors; Yellow, Black, Green, and Red)

    2. Put a crimp connector on each of the stripped ends. 

    3. Insert the ends into the DB9 female connector using the below instructions: 

    G25 Pinout (Back of connector facing you)

     1 2 3 4 5
       6 7 8 9 

    1=Yellow
    2=Black
    3=Green
    6=Red

     4,5,7,8,9=empty

    4. Test it out! 

    Let me know if these make sense. I'm horrible at explaining myself. 

    Connector PicConnector 2

    PINOUT FOR WHEEL 

    (tab is facing up, Edge of connector facing you)

    y g r b

    y=power

    g=brake

    red=ground

    black=gas 

    Edit: Sorry for leaving you guys hanging for so long.

    I have added some pics..

  •  09-25-2009, 4:22 PM 2979531 in reply to 2976828

    Re: MS Wheel Cable

    tonyfreak215:

    It works! It's even more responsive than the MS pedals. :)

     For future reference on how to do this.

     I got a DB9 Female connector from radioshack. http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103806 (no soldering required, it's a crimp)

     A standard phone cable (RJ11).

     1. Cut one end of the phone cable off and strip each of the smaller wires inside. (should be 4 different colors; Yellow, Black, Green, and Red)

    2. But a crimp connector on each of the stripped ends. 

    3. Insert the ends into the DB9 female connector using the below instructions: 

    G25 Pinout (connector facing you)

     1 2 3 4 5
       6 7 8 9 

    1=Yellow
    2=Black
    3=Green
    6=Red

     4,5,7,8,9=empty

    4. Test it out! 

    Let me know if these make sense. I'm horrible at explaining myself. 

     

    PINOUT FOR WHEEL 

    (tab is facing up, Edge of connector facing you)

    y g r b

    y=power

    g=brake

    red=ground

    black=gas 

     

     

    Tony, when you say "G25" pinout do you mean the plug on the pedals or the new connector, which would be totally reversed?
  •  09-25-2009, 4:35 PM 2979582 in reply to 2979531

    Re: MS Wheel Cable

    I bought a spool of 4wire cable the other day and some RJ11's and just made a couple of new straight through cords.  I already had some RJ11/45 crimpers sitting around...you can get what you need at radioshack.
  •  09-25-2009, 4:43 PM 2979609 in reply to 2979582

    Re: MS Wheel Cable

    clutch work with g25 pedals?....



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  •  09-25-2009, 4:45 PM 2979616 in reply to 2976828

    Re: MS Wheel Cable

    tonyfreak215:

    It works! It's even more responsive than the MS pedals. :)

     For future reference on how to do this.

     I got a DB9 Female connector from radioshack. http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103806 (no soldering required, it's a crimp)

     A standard phone cable (RJ11).

     1. Cut one end of the phone cable off and strip each of the smaller wires inside. (should be 4 different colors; Yellow, Black, Green, and Red)

    2. But a crimp connector on each of the stripped ends. 

    3. Insert the ends into the DB9 female connector using the below instructions: 

    G25 Pinout (connector facing you)

     1 2 3 4 5
       6 7 8 9 

    1=Yellow
    2=Black
    3=Green
    6=Red

     4,5,7,8,9=empty

    4. Test it out! 

    Let me know if these make sense. I'm horrible at explaining myself. 

     

    PINOUT FOR WHEEL 

    (tab is facing up, Edge of connector facing you)

    y g r b

    y=power

    g=brake

    red=ground

    black=gas 

     

     

    My question to u sir is can u get the clutch pedal to work with MS wheel


  •  09-25-2009, 4:49 PM 2979628 in reply to 2979609

    Re: MS Wheel Cable

    Ive got this to work now thanks to tonyfreaks advice, BUT the break is constantly on when lifting off the accelerator.

     Is this due to the deadzone? and can it be adjusted with other games as the demo doesnt allow any adjustment yet?

  •  09-25-2009, 10:06 PM 2980503 in reply to 2976828

    Re: MS Wheel Cable

    This worked like a charm except I am going to have to learn how to drive all over again. When I got the G25 I had stopped LF braking as it is too hard to do (IMO) on them so I converted to RF on the brakes. Then when I got Forza and the MS wheel I took the easy way out and went back to LF. Now I will have to learn all over again, again. I also would suggest if you do this to make sure and set all the deadzones back to defaults and re-tweak them. Like I said, time to relearn again. Now I need to find an old S-videao cable and figure the pinouts on my Clubsport pedals and do this with them Wink

  •  10-01-2009, 4:27 PM 3001235 in reply to 2980503

    Re: MS Wheel Cable

    Hi Guys, i myself am looking into this solution aswell, and i might have found your "problem" with the throttle and brake responding to each other.

     i found this G25 D9 connector sheet:

     Code:
    1 Ground (Black)
    2 Gas (Orange)
    3 Brake (White)
    4 Clutch (Green)
    5
    6 +5V (Red)
    7
    8
    9 +5V (Red)

     

    and i have read in a different post on these forums that the +5V of the G25 should be connected together

     "I'm going to work up a good schematic soon enough.  I can say I do have the two +5v jumped together"

     

    so i'm thinking you should be able to jump the 6 and 9 together, but maybe with the use of diodes since someone else couldnt get this to work. I will only get my Xbox 360 when Forza 3 comes out, but i already bought the steeringwheel, and have a G25 sitting in the simulator next to me. Maybe someone can work this out, it should be able to work perfectly :)

  •  10-01-2009, 6:44 PM 3001662 in reply to 3001235

    Re: MS Wheel Cable

    btw, have you tried using the clutch paddle as a brake instead of the brake paddle? maybe that will change the input signals?
  •  10-05-2009, 12:31 PM 3011846 in reply to 2976828

    Re: MS Wheel Cable

    tonyfreak215:

    It works! It's even more responsive than the MS pedals. :)

     For future reference on how to do this.

     I got a DB9 Female connector from radioshack. http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103806 (no soldering required, it's a crimp)

     A standard phone cable (RJ11).

     1. Cut one end of the phone cable off and strip each of the smaller wires inside. (should be 4 different colors; Yellow, Black, Green, and Red)

    2. But a crimp connector on each of the stripped ends. 

    3. Insert the ends into the DB9 female connector using the below instructions: 

    G25 Pinout (connector facing you)

     1 2 3 4 5
       6 7 8 9 

    1=Yellow
    2=Black
    3=Green
    6=Red

     4,5,7,8,9=empty

    4. Test it out! 

    Let me know if these make sense. I'm horrible at explaining myself. 

     

    PINOUT FOR WHEEL 

    (tab is facing up, Edge of connector facing you)

    y g r b

    y=power

    g=brake

    red=ground

    black=gas 

     

     

     

    tonyfreak215 I would like to know if you have had the same problem as MrCh1p did with the brake going on when you let off the gas? I would like to try this also, but not if it is going to have this problem.

  •  10-13-2009, 9:45 AM 3049704 in reply to 3011846

    Re: MS Wheel Cable

    I made one of these cables last night so I could use my MS wheel until my new one comes and hit a snag. When ever I would hit the brakes I would get brakes and throttle after some trouble shooting I found the issue.

    If you have this problem check your ground wire you have it switched with one of the signal lines for the gas or brake in my case I had it swapped with the brake.

    If you have the problem where the pedals work opposite (they go to full brake or gas when you let off the pedal) you most likely have the +5v and ground backwards.

     

  •  10-13-2009, 12:11 PM 3050118 in reply to 3049704

    Re: MS Wheel Cable

    I dont understand you here as I have the exact problem you had, ie when braking, the throttle is also applied.

    There are ony 4 wires coming from the MS Wheel to the G25 connector - I assume Gas, Brake, -ve and +ve ?

    Are you saying the -ve from the MS Wheel is connected to the wrong pin on G25? Its pin 2 at mo.

  •  10-13-2009, 12:28 PM 3050171 in reply to 3049704

    Re: MS Wheel Cable

    Demigawd:

    I made one of these cables last night so I could use my MS wheel until my new one comes and hit a snag. When ever I would hit the brakes I would get brakes and throttle after some trouble shooting I found the issue.

    If you have this problem check your ground wire you have it switched with one of the signal lines for the gas or brake in my case I had it swapped with the brake.

    If you have the problem where the pedals work opposite (they go to full brake or gas when you let off the pedal) you most likely have the +5v and ground backwards.

     

     

    could you make a picture of what the wires now look like on the D9 plug? Would be of great help!

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