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Painting Tutorial - The Basics (updated)

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  •  06-04-2007, 7:08 PM 204616

    Painting Tutorial - The Basics (updated)

    Hey Guys and Gals,
    Since I have been innundated with questions about the "300" car. I have been putting together some quick tutorials. The techniques I describe are the methods I used to create the "300-The Movie" car". Since my Master Chief project is already underway, I will be creating tutorials that follow the progress. Thanks,
    -Oni

    -----UPDATE-----
    Alright, sorry for the lack of info. Due to my "real" job I haven't had time to get anything done on the Master Chief car tutorial.

    In order to make up for it I have come up with a new approach. I would like to make this a more like an interactive tutorial.
    I have decided to make the design available free and unlocked so that you can work along with me and learn these techniques.
    Just send me friend request and I will gift the car to as many people as I can, but I ask that you share amongst yourselves by saving the design to your design catalog and then gifting the car to someone else that would like it.

    I am still working on tutorial videos that I hope to have online soon. I am having some technical difficulties.
    Here's the big reference image for you also:

    -Be Just, Fear Not
  •  06-04-2007, 7:17 PM 204666 in reply to 204616

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    Awesome car, and thanks!
  •  06-04-2007, 7:24 PM 204702 in reply to 204616

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    Hey. Nice job on the Master Cheif tutorial. I'm logging my Master Cheif project as well and plan to make a tutorial when I complete it. You might have seen it but check it out if you will. Keep in mind it is a work in progress as I just started a couple days ago on it. I can't wait to see yours either since you did such a great job on your 300 car. But anyways here is a link to my Halo 3 car so far.

    http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/thread/195555.aspx




    PAINTING TUTORIALS THREAD
  •  06-04-2007, 7:27 PM 204724 in reply to 204616

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    one word .... : STICKY! 

     

    nice job man thanks :)

  •  06-04-2007, 7:38 PM 204787 in reply to 204724

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    That's really cool of you to do a tutorial!

    Glad to see I am not going about my cars the wrong way or anything. My method is pretty much the same.

     


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  •  06-04-2007, 8:32 PM 205071 in reply to 204616

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    In those two tutorials you've lessened my doubts about doing some good artwork. I'm good with drawing by mouse in Photoshop and utilizing gradients, but I was never quite sure about how to utilize the vinyl mode until now. I hopefully will be able to use this more and with more effectiveness. Thanks. 

     

    This topic should be stickied, post haste!

     

    *edit*

    Oh! One question! What is the best way to make sublte curved lines from straight lines: Taking a circle and "shaving" the square, or making circles that form the curve. Anyone can make a slick racing line, but the ones with curve and "motion" make it stylish. Any input would be great, and also help me in my projects because I don't often have time to use the livery. Thanks!

  •  06-04-2007, 8:36 PM 205090 in reply to 205071

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    nice job, its really easy to understand so thats good, i hate reading those lengthy tutorials because i loose interest almost instantly Yes [Y]

    Pancreatic Cancer Survivor.
  •  06-04-2007, 9:12 PM 205286 in reply to 205090

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    Nice job, To make the layers of the Primitives, do you have a file of them ready? or did you re-create them from scratch?
  •  06-04-2007, 9:30 PM 205394 in reply to 205286

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    Very cool, looking forward to seeing more of the tutorial.  The work you and some of the other people are doing is amazing.
  •  06-04-2007, 9:55 PM 205509 in reply to 205394

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    cant wait to see how this turns out
  •  06-04-2007, 10:36 PM 205697 in reply to 205509

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    It's pretty simple, guys. You can't have a "similar" workflow - this is the ONLY workflow. You build images using the shapes you are given, it's that simple. It's like a jigsaw puzzle. You have to put the pieces into place, to make the image you want in the end.

    it's awesome that you did this for the community, Oni. Although it's a bit sad that people couldn't understand how it's done to begin with. :P

    - joshua stubbles
  •  06-04-2007, 10:48 PM 205759 in reply to 205697

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    tag
  •  06-04-2007, 11:48 PM 206049 in reply to 205697

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    stubbles:
    It's pretty simple, guys. You can't have a "similar" workflow - this is the ONLY workflow. You build images using the shapes you are given, it's that simple. It's like a jigsaw puzzle. You have to put the pieces into place, to make the image you want in the end.

    it's awesome that you did this for the community, Oni. Although it's a bit sad that people couldn't understand how it's done to begin with. :P

    That may be true, but step down from your pedestal and see that some people may have been doing artwork, but not in an efficient way as this one. One may have learned to draw shapes in a more efficient way, such as doing something with triangles when it could be more effectively implemented with squares, saving space and time. It may help another that is frustrated. Plus, that gradient shading technique would probably not be known by someone that is artistically inclined, or familiar with a simple painting program such as this. Everyone has to start some time, why not speed up the learning process?

     

  •  06-05-2007, 12:10 AM 206125 in reply to 204616

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    How Much Do You Carge For The 300 Car??
  •  06-05-2007, 2:32 AM 206594 in reply to 206125

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    xI DiAmOnD Ix:
    How Much Do You Carge For The 300 Car??

    I will be offering a very limited number of cars with this design via auction over the next two weekends.
    Keep an eye on these forums for auction details. Save your credits and happy bidding.
    -Oni
    -Be Just, Fear Not
  •  06-05-2007, 2:34 AM 206599 in reply to 205071

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    skate919:

    In those two tutorials you've lessened my doubts about doing some good artwork. I'm good with drawing by mouse in Photoshop and utilizing gradients, but I was never quite sure about how to utilize the vinyl mode until now. I hopefully will be able to use this more and with more effectiveness. Thanks. 


     


    This topic should be stickied, post haste!


     


    *edit*


    Oh! One question! What is the best way to make sublte curved lines from straight lines: Taking a circle and "shaving" the square, or making circles that form the curve. Anyone can make a slick racing line, but the ones with curve and "motion" make it stylish. Any input would be great, and also help me in my projects because I don't often have time to use the livery. Thanks!


    I will be sure to cover this topic in a future tutorial.
    -Oni
    -Be Just, Fear Not
  •  06-05-2007, 2:37 AM 206604 in reply to 205286

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    Wootai:
    Nice job, To make the layers of the Primitives, do you have a file of them ready? or did you re-create them from scratch?

    There are many preset "primitives" in the Forza 2 paint area.
    -Oni
    -Be Just, Fear Not
  •  06-05-2007, 3:34 AM 206774 in reply to 206594

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    Thanks a lot for doing these tutorials!

    Big Smile [:D]


    Keep it clean
  •  06-05-2007, 11:45 PM 212812 in reply to 205697

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    stubbles:
    It's pretty simple, guys. You can't have a "similar" workflow - this is the ONLY workflow. You build images using the shapes you are given, it's that simple.


    Working on my own design, I do it slightly different from Oni. I "subtract" or "carve" rather than add.

    For example: I'm making an Afro Samurai themed car, and I have a huge Afro Samurai graphic on the front of my car. He currently consiststs of over 500 layers with each of the headband strands at about 200. What I do is: first lay out the mold or "clay" and then use really small pieces to carve out a shape from the original "block" of clay.

    This method allows for very fine detail, but it's painstakingly tiresome. While it's technically "adding" (because I need to add a layer that "hides" the layer below) I still think of it as carving.

    I've spent upwards of 15 hours on the face, and about 3 hours on the first of two headbands. When all is said and done, I think Afro and his headbands will take about 25 hours. The rest of the car will probably take another 10-15.

    Oni's method and his tutorials are excellent. I just wanted to point out that there is definitely at least one other way to do it that allows such detail.

    Much respect on Oni's 300 car. Definitely among my top 2 or 3 so far.

    I hope to be finished by this weekend, and I may do a tutorial of my own just to show the alternate method. What I'm most interested in now is perfect curved lines. I currently use the kidney shape and the swoosh shape with a ton of skew and resizing. While it definitely works, it's part of the reason my method takes so long. To get equal thickness lines, I have to piece them together in very tiny sections.

    - ben
  •  06-06-2007, 10:07 AM 214615 in reply to 212812

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    Thanks for these tutorials, ONI 23.  Using the tools is easy, using them effectively to achieve what we want is the hard part and these tutorials are a great help to someone like me that has absolutely zero artistic experience or knowledge.

    Ben brings up a point about carving.  My question is: because you have carving vinyls 'outside the lines' doesn't that limit you in terms of what color you can paint the car?  You can't make the vinyls any metallic or special colors for example so if you painted the car one of these colors the carving vinyls would stick out, no longer 'hidden' by the paint, right?
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