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Hi tuning fans. I decided to make a Thread where the link to Feuerdog's V5.11a Basic Suspension Calculator Excel spreadsheet so it will  stay in the 1st post.

You can download an Excel spreadsheet and get a good basic starting point for any car. since no one has the perfect tune for Forza, the V5.11a Calculator will help you get closer than the Default setups in the game. If you don't have Office Excel, you can download a FREE copy of Open Office at http://www.openoffice.org and it should work.

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?gqgyk1mjjrw

Here is a link to the User's Guide in a PDF file for the Ver 5.11a Basic Calculator.

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?gi46wij2nxg

Here is a V5.11d version hosted by Barumba that has different options plus you can download instruction manuals:

http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/thread/1655059.aspx

Here is a Microsoft Access version of feuerdog's V5.11a Forza 2 Calculator by "Kid africa". This version has options to save each cars upgrades and setup.

http://cid-988c07b4bb30ffd1.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Public/FM2|_Tuner07232008.mdb

I use the MS racing wheel and tweak the tune to fit my driving style.

Recommended Wireless Steering Wheel Settings: http://forzamotorsport.net/news/drivingtuning/tactile_training.htm

Steering Axis Deadzone Inside - 0%
Steering Axis Deadzone Outside - 100%
Brake Deadzone Inside - 10%
Brake Deadzone Outside - 90%
Throttle Deadzone Inside - 10%
Throttle Deadzone Outside - 100%
Forza Feedback Scale - 100% I set mine to 75%
Vibration Scale - 100%

 

Here is Blooze's Transmission calcuator. Use at you own discretion.

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=20434db889ef630ed2db6fb9a8902bda

 

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Feuerdog's Forza 2 V5.11a Tuning Calc: http://www.mediafire.com/?gqgyk1mjjrw

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Thank you for that.

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Is anyone ever going to make an online calculator for version 5 like they have for version 3?

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ucyifly:

Is anyone ever going to make an online calculator for version 5 like they have for version 3?

This is the Online Calculator for Version 5.

Go ahead and download the Excel Spreadsheet from the link and it will do everything for you and then there is an extra Tweaking instructions for Oversteer and Understeer. When you open the Calculator it looks like an online calculator. You don't need to be on the internet to use this Basic Calculator.

All you have to do is enter a few stats for your car and it is automatic.

This Spreadsheet also works with the FREE OpenOffice suite that you can download from http://www.openoffice.org

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XBL Tag: TomCat7
"Unofficial Senior Citizen of Forza Motorsport"
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Feuerdog's Forza 2 V5.11a Tuning Calc: http://www.mediafire.com/?gqgyk1mjjrw

"R.I.P." PALE Rider. A True Forza Legend

Hey TomCat7 does Feverdog's calc work for Porche's too?

It is feuerdog , anglo'd from the original "feuerhund" (translation: fire dog), not Feverdog.

No one has posted a Porsche calc based on v5.11a.

Go ahead, correct me, please!

This calc link below (based on v3) has a Porsche tweak, but I do not know if it has been updated to v5.11a. I doubt it.

 http://www.croisened.com/

v5.11a has a RR tweak (Porsche are only cars with this configuration), but it is far from close to a smooth ride.

Enter your inputs, then tweak till you get a ride that works for you. 

I did, and am OK with my final settings, for my RR Porsche cars, my MS wheel, and my driving style...

That's what these calcs are all about, get close, then fine tune.

 

 

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"Always remember, however sure you are that you could easily win, that there would not be a war if the other man did not think he also had a chance."

I tried using one of these calculators once, and what I noticed is that it gave an extremely high front camber setting. 

When I tune camber I try and make my tires flat as they go through the corner (I look at tire misc.) I alway end up with a relatively low camber setting in the front because the caster helps make my front tires flat as I go through a corner. 

When ever I look at a calculator it gives me some crazy number  like -0.9.

Is this just a flawed section of the tunning calculation? or am I missing something.

If the camber goes positive through a turn, you lose significant grip.  If it goes negative, you lose a small amount of grip, but the higher static camber greatly increases the responsiveness of the car.  The calculator seems to account for this, as does Forza's physics engine, as a camber of -.7 to -1 in the front with a 0 to -.2 in the rear on telemetry through most turns on a track tend to give me my best times.

barumba,

Man I've been watching feuerdog post since Blooze first released the famous transmission calculator, I should of known better. I guess I went with the name in the title of this thread without thinking. Sorry feuerdog no disrespect intended. Anyway, I've send a private message to him asking but haven't heard from him yet. I have used v5 of the calc on the 2007 Porche 911 Turbo and his new spreadsheet seems to configure that ride almost perfect for me. It can have some slight entry oversteer but I think that's more a result of my aero setting and corner entry speed than ill settings. I've used this calc for about 4 setups and for each ride my lap times have improved. I haven't raced online yet with any of these setups to see how I do against warm bodies with strategic minds and/or intoxicated idiots with a destructive nature and too much time on their hands, but from what I can tell so far, online I would be the weakest link in my v5.11a calculated 2007 911 Turbo. Yo Feuerdog, HOLLA BACK! I really do wanna show you something and see what you think if you've got the time.

pbnos, I agree. I've tuned 8 P cars with v511a, and after test laps, tweaks for OS, have got pretty manageable rides. So far, I think the generally stiff set-up from v511a is giving me what I want. It just takes a bit of input from the tuner. Like I said (actually, quoted) these tuning calcs are a starting point and with a bit of tweaking will get us to where we want.

BTW, not everyone will like such a stiff set-up. I do, but the tweaks will modulate that enough to give a car that should handle to your liking. If  not, there are other calcs out there.

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"Always remember, however sure you are that you could easily win, that there would not be a war if the other man did not think he also had a chance."

neither link is working for me, I had it in my favorites are one time too and that one didn't work today either.  Somethings wrong

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CapWartactics:

neither link is working for me, I had it in my favorites are one time too and that one didn't work today either.  Somethings wrong

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?dhjnfmr1yuh

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"Always remember, however sure you are that you could easily win, that there would not be a war if the other man did not think he also had a chance."

barumba:

CapWartactics:

neither link is working for me, I had it in my favorites are one time too and that one didn't work today either.  Somethings wrong

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?dhjnfmr1yuh

Thanks for putting up this link barumba.

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Feuerdog's Forza 2 V5.11a Tuning Calc: http://www.mediafire.com/?gqgyk1mjjrw

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Only the media fire link seems to be working for Feuerdog's calc Tomcat. I was surprised today when I went to the site and it was shut down.

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TomCat7:

barumba:

CapWartactics:

neither link is working for me, I had it in my favorites are one time too and that one didn't work today either.  Somethings wrong

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?dhjnfmr1yuh

Thanks for putting up this link barumba.

No sweat, TC. Looks like we are the torch bearers.

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"Always remember, however sure you are that you could easily win, that there would not be a war if the other man did not think he also had a chance."

 

		INPUTS				Notes				MODIFIERS
	FR	DRIVETYPE			2006 Dodge Charger PI966
	3567	WEIGHT			Tune for Silverstone International					STRENGTH MODIFIERS - ADJUST THE OVERALL STRENGTH VALUE FOR THE SPECIFIC PART
	54.0%	WEIGHT DISTRIBUTION	46.0%							DEFAULT = 100%
	57.4%	Modified Distribution	42.6%							HIGHER = STIFFER
										LOWER = SOFTER
	170	AERO DOWNFORCE	250
	40.5%	Aerodynamic Distribution	59.5%								ARB
	275	TIRE WIDTH	285								RAISE VALUE TO REDUCE ROLL (OVAL TRACKS)
	-0.9%	Tire Distribution	+0.9%								LOWER VALUE TO INCREASE ROLL (SHORT TRACKS)
		OUTPUTS									UNMODIFIED SPRING
	FRONT	ALIGNMENTS	REAR								RAISE VALUE TO INCREASE CHASSIS RESPONSE
A	29	TIRES	28								LOWER VALUE TO IMPROVE BUMP ABSORBTION
B	-0.8	CAMBER	-0.8			SUSPENSION CALCULATOR
	0.0	TOE	-0.2			VERSION 5.11a					REBOUND
	5.4	CASTER									RAISE VALUE TO IMPROVE STABILITY
						MODIFIERS					LOWER VALUE TO IMPROVE RESPONSE
	FRONT	SUSPENSION	REAR		STRENGTH	BASE	BIAS
C	17.89	ARB	19.38		90%	41.41	48.0%				BUMP
	48.0%		52.0%		100%		57.4%				RAISE VALUE TO IMPROVE TURN EXIT RESPONSE
	596.4	Unmodified Springs	646.1	SWR	90%	1380.47	48.0%				LOWER VALUE TO IMPROVE TURN ENTRY RESPONSE
				69.7%	100%		57.4%
	+30.6	Aero Compensation	+45.0		100%	0.18
					100%					BIAS MODIFIERS - ADJUST THE FRONT DISTRIBUTION OF VALUE FOR THE SPECIFIC PART
	-5.3	Tire Width Compensation	+5.8							DEFAULT = BLANK (MODIFIED DISTRIBUTION)
										51% AND HIGHER = FORWARD BIAS
D	621.6	MODIFIED SPRINGS	696.8	SWR						49% AND LOWER = REARWARD BIAS
	47.1%		52.9%	73.9%
E	9.19	REBOUND	10.04		80%	1.5					ARB
					80%		47.1%				RAISE VALUE TO INCREASE UNDERSTEER AND/OR DECREASE OVERSTEER
	6.13	BUMP	6.69		80%	0.009					LOWER VALUE TO INCREASE OVERSTEER AND/OR DECREASE UNDERSTEER
					80%		47.1%
											UNMODIFIED SPRING
F	BALANCE	BRAKES	FORCE		DELTA	2.4%					RAISE VALUE TO INCREASE UNDERSTEER AND/OR DECREASE OVERSTEER
	47		100		FF	-6.4%					LOWER VALUE TO INCREASE OVERSTEER AND/OR DECREASE UNDERSTEER
G	Acc/Dec	DIFFERENTIALS	Acc/Dec		FR	3.4%
	30/0	FWD	-		FA	-7.4%					REBOUND
	-	RWD	60/40		MR	2.9%					RAISE VALUE TO INCREASE OVERSTEER AND/OR DECREASE UNDERSTEER
	20/0	AWD	70/60		MA	-3.1%					LOWER VALUE TO INCREASE UNDERSTEER AND/OR DECREASE OVERSTEER
	25	TORQUE SPLIT	75		RR	0.4%
					RA	-1.6%					BUMP
											RAISE VALUE TO IMPROVE STABILITY
											LOWER VALUE TO IMPROVE RESPONSE

Is it supposed to look something like this. If so someone explain to me how do i use it.

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Another question

Does RR means rear wheel drive?

If FR means front wheel drive what are the two letters for all wheel drive?

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GT-Ricky cubano

rickycubano:

Another question

Does RR means rear wheel drive?

If FR means front wheel drive what are the two letters for all wheel drive?

RR means rear wheel drive, with the engine in the rear (ie Porsche). FR is front engined, rear wheel drive (ie Corvettes). MR is mid engined, rear wheel drive (most supercars). FF is front engine, front wheel drive (ie Civics). When you see "A", that means it's all wheel drive (ie most of the in game Subarus).

As far as learning how to use the excel spreadsheet, here's a whole bunch of information to get you started:

http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/1/242646/ShowThread.aspx

Read the first few posts that explains what the calculator does. The excel spreadsheet takes the manual pencil and paper calculations out of it.

This is a flash based calculator that's outdated, but if you fill in the information from your car's stats into it, you'll get an idea of how it all works. Once you're comfortable using the v3 calculator, you can start using the excel spreadsheet to get a better tune.

http://www.ondaground.net/flash/fm2/

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Thanx man, i already use the V3 caculator then tune up from there. Everyone kept telling me (since i sell tunes here) to use the V5 caculator. They say it will give me an even more closr way to make my tunes instead of starting at mid point.

Anway thank.

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GT-Ricky cubano

rickycubano:

Thanx man, i already use the V3 caculator then tune up from there. Everyone kept telling me (since i sell tunes here) to use the V5 caculator. They say it will give me an even more closr way to make my tunes instead of starting at mid point.

Anway thank.

Thanks Ricky for pointing out that there was no Drive Type Code. I added the code to the Excel spreadsheet so now it is included when you download the V5.11a Basic Suspension Calculator.

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XBL Tag: TomCat7
"Unofficial Senior Citizen of Forza Motorsport"
I'm still racing at 70 years young. Will it ever end?
Feuerdog's Forza 2 V5.11a Tuning Calc: http://www.mediafire.com/?gqgyk1mjjrw

"R.I.P." PALE Rider. A True Forza Legend