I own a BMW E30 with the M motor and I just downloaded the same car for forza and there isnt a tuning setup that you can make that would make it more realistic, it sucks

what about it isn't right?  do you honestly expect a videogame to feel like driving a real car?  also, your car isn't a true M3 is it?  just an E30 with the M3's engine, correct?

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Venturi.tk

You say you have an e30.  Well, what model e30?  And with an "M" engine.  What "M" engine?  And i have to agree with the above poster  "do you honestly expect a videogame to feel like driving a real car?"

SchwarzBMWe30:

You say you have an e30.  Well, what model e30?  And with an "M" engine.  What "M" engine?  And i have to agree with the above poster  "do you honestly expect a videogame to feel like driving a real car?"

 

somehow i want to think that the OP will see your gamertag and ask you what color your car is...

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mastersmite0wpi:

SchwarzBMWe30:

You say you have an e30.  Well, what model e30?  And with an "M" engine.  What "M" engine?  And i have to agree with the above poster  "do you honestly expect a videogame to feel like driving a real car?"

 

somehow i want to think that the OP will see your gamertag and ask you what color your car is...

I hope he doesn't

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mastersmite0wpi:

SchwarzBMWe30:

You say you have an e30.  Well, what model e30?  And with an "M" engine.  What "M" engine?  And i have to agree with the above poster  "do you honestly expect a videogame to feel like driving a real car?"

 

somehow i want to think that the OP will see your gamertag and ask you what color your car is...

LOL 

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I don't really see the need to jump all over the guy, his point was simple enough. He was simply stating that the in-game car reacts nothing like the real car, which it would if it was a proper simulator.

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MazdaRacerUK:

I don't really see the need to jump all over the guy, his point was simple enough. He was simply stating that the in-game car reacts nothing like the real car, which it would if it was a proper simulator.

 

true that a proper simulator would....but lets remeber this

i highly doubt your taking you bmw to tracks like this simulator was intended for people to do

example: they didnt design this game to have cars reacting like they would in street stituations...

also they cant make every car in the game handle like the real thing.....and the way a  car handles is based on opinion and drivers ability

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KoolAidMan687:

i highly doubt your taking you bmw to tracks like this simulator was intended for people to do

Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't. I certainly race more in real life than I do in-game.

also they cant make every car in the game handle like the real thing.....and the way a  car handles is based on opinion and drivers ability

 Whilst that may be, there's still no need for everyone to jump on the 'OMG hE'S R3t4Rd3D!!1!' bandwagon, simply for asking a question. Let's face it, I'd struggle to believe any of the above people could even change my spark plugs within an hour, with all the tools and a guide how to do it next to them.

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I highly doubt the Shelby Cobra actually handles in real life the same way it does in the game, so I think it is reasonable to believe that this could happen with other cars in the game too. I hope they fix issues like that in Forza 3.

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 You have to expect in a video game that it wont be completely true to real life. For one thing who is going to let someone take out there stock 427 shelby cobra out for a rip on a test track, same goes for all the real expensive cars and muscle cars.

cardude427:

 For one thing who is going to let someone take out there stock 427 shelby cobra out for a rip on a test track

In my racing club alone, there are 4 genuine Cobra's that race regularly. In the classic series held at Goodwood, there are another half-dozen or so too. As for the expensive cars, how do you think Top Gear test their cars? More often than not, they're customer cars, not PR cars.

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MazdaRacerUK:

 Whilst that may be, there's still no need for everyone to jump on the 'OMG hE'S R3t4Rd3D!!1!' bandwagon, simply for asking a question. Let's face it, I'd struggle to believe any of the above people could even change my spark plugs within an hour, with all the tools and a guide how to do it next to them.

There's also no need to go to that place. I just finished a conversion 1968 Porsche 912 with a 1.6L Flat Four on carbs to a 2.4L Flat Six on Mechanical Injection about a week ago, and I did all the work myself, the car has never left my garage. I also built, installed and tuned a 3.0L Flat Six on MFI for my 1972 911T, so assuming no one on these forums can work on cars is a mistake.  

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MazdaRacerUK:

KoolAidMan687:

i highly doubt your taking you bmw to tracks like this simulator was intended for people to do

Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't. I certainly race more in real life than I do in-game.

also they cant make every car in the game handle like the real thing.....and the way a  car handles is based on opinion and drivers ability

 Whilst that may be, there's still no need for everyone to jump on the 'OMG hE'S R3t4Rd3D!!1!' bandwagon, simply for asking a question. Let's face it, I'd struggle to believe any of the above people could even change my spark plugs within an hour, with all the tools and a guide how to do it next to them.

 

no but i could change your muffler in under twenty minutes 

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KoolAidMan687:

MazdaRacerUK:

KoolAidMan687:

i highly doubt your taking you bmw to tracks like this simulator was intended for people to do

Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't. I certainly race more in real life than I do in-game.

also they cant make every car in the game handle like the real thing.....and the way a  car handles is based on opinion and drivers ability

 Whilst that may be, there's still no need for everyone to jump on the 'OMG hE'S R3t4Rd3D!!1!' bandwagon, simply for asking a question. Let's face it, I'd struggle to believe any of the above people could even change my spark plugs within an hour, with all the tools and a guide how to do it next to them.

 

no but i could change your muffler in under twenty minutes 

haha, you should do that to all the ricers with fart can exhausts, so you can spare our ears of the horror.  

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MazdaRacerUK:

KoolAidMan687:

i highly doubt your taking you bmw to tracks like this simulator was intended for people to do

Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't. I certainly race more in real life than I do in-game.

also they cant make every car in the game handle like the real thing.....and the way a  car handles is based on opinion and drivers ability

 Whilst that may be, there's still no need for everyone to jump on the 'OMG hE'S R3t4Rd3D!!1!' bandwagon, simply for asking a question. Let's face it, I'd struggle to believe any of the above people could even change my spark plugs within an hour, with all the tools and a guide how to do it next to them.

i feel sorry for you if your engine takes an hour to change the plugs.  it takes longer to get the tools together for me to change my plugs than it does to change them. the only things that slows me down is when one of them gets loose from whatever method i am using to hold them; extra long needle nose pliers have saved me much frustration a few times.

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mastersmite0wpi:

i feel sorry for you if your engine takes an hour to change the plugs...

You've missed my point entirely there. My plugs take less than 2 mins to change, it's only a 4cyl engine and the HT leads/plug wells are ridiculously easy to access.

As for changing a muffler in 20mins, what takes you so long? A full system (manifold, mid-section/silencer, muffler) only comprises 4-6 bolts, plus 8 for the manifold, and I'm no expert mechanic. The only awkward part are the hangers, which aren't awkward if you have a screw-driver.

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MazdaRacerUK:

mastersmite0wpi:

i feel sorry for you if your engine takes an hour to change the plugs...

You've missed my point entirely there. My plugs take less than 2 mins to change, it's only a 4cyl engine and the HT leads/plug wells are ridiculously easy to access.

As for changing a muffler in 20mins, what takes you so long? A full system (manifold, mid-section/silencer, muffler) only comprises 4-6 bolts, plus 8 for the manifold, and I'm no expert mechanic. The only awkward part are the hangers, which aren't awkward if you have a screw-driver.

 i am guessing you have the miata in your sig then?  looks pretty nice.  i have a 2000 civic Si and the plugs are pretty much in the same place as you car, the engine is just turned sideways because it is wrong wheel drive.  the only thing that would make a muffler take longer than 20 minutes would be rusted bolts.  assuming i wasn't distracted easily by other things (like i usually am) i could probably have my fuel pump out in about 20 minutes assuming i had all the tools gathered ahead of time.  most things not directly related to the driveline or rotating assembly on modern cars are pretty simple.  some companies like to make it hard though.  my dad had a chevy astrovan and to get to the back 2 plugs on the V6, you had to take the interior half way apart.

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mastersmite0wpi:

[my dad had a chevy astrovan and to get to the back 2 plugs on the V6, you had to take the interior half way apart. 

You think that's bad, to change the plugs on a mid-'90s Porsche 911 (993) you practically have to drop the motor..... 

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I guess asking what car the guy has, is just too much???  If he does have an e30 M3 with an S14.  It would be pretty cool for him to post up a picture of it.  But no, some people get pissy and complain about others mechanical abilitys