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Dre:

dude, i dont care for ANY of those cars, nor the track. we all have different taste, and i dont have a taste for those cars, as in im a touger and drifter, meaning i LOVE corners, NOT STRAIGHTS!!! you guys have fun though, if those are the cars you wanted, hey man, i encourage you to get these cars but me personally, i wont get them, because i wont use them, im not saying "F" turn ten because they give me what i wanted. i believe they are taking care of the main community which is the curcuit racing community and once they've taken care of them, then they will get to the smaller communities, like drag, touge and drift. i still believe they have stuff up their sleeves, just watch when they include blue mountain, do you know how many people will come back to forza just for that ONE TRACK!!!

I wasn't trying to tell you that your opinion is wrong. Everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion on what should or shouldn't be included in the game. I would love to see Blue Mountain in Forza 2! The "touge battle" type races in Forza 1 were one of my favorite parts of that game. I was just voicing my opinion on the subject. I think this dlc is awesome, you would rather have something else. That is perfectly fine. In fact, I think you've got a good point bringing up Blue Mountain. I love circuit racing but I also drifting and touge. If Turn 10 were to put either (or both) in to Forza 2 I would probably pass out from the excitement.

I'm a little confused about "corners, not straights" comment though. All the cars in this xpac, with the exception of the Trans Am, are very good road cars and are engineered to take corners well. I can understand if you're talking about the FXX and the CCX int he context of the rest of your post. Those cars are definitely designed for track use and would probably get left behind in a touge battle. However, the M3 has got all the aspects that make a car successful in mountain races. I know that I'm super biased when it comes to this car but I also know that it's considered by many to be one of the best handling cars ever built.

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Vicious136:

However, the M3 has got all the aspects that make a car successful in mountain races. I know that I'm super biased when it comes to this car but I also know that it's considered by many to be one of the best handling cars ever built.

Well not 'ever built'.  It was more known because it was just a pure driver's car.  Light, nimble, powerful, communicative and no-frills.  There are plenty of cars that technically handle better.  But its all about the feel for me. 

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when i said "i LOVE corners, NOT STRAIGHTS!!!"

meaning i love to turn, i dont like going on straights because its nothing but gas.
i was aimming at the track, talking about the track road america man, not the cars.

as i don't have interest in none of the cars, the BMW is a great car and all, but its not my style of car, thats all.
you guys have fun with your cars, i will still be driving, the NSX, the Hachi, supra and all them other tuners.

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Dre:

when i said "i LOVE corners, NOT STRAIGHTS!!!"

meaning i love to turn, i dont like going on straights because its nothing but gas.
i was aimming at the track, talking about the track road america man, not the cars.

as i don't have interest in none of the cars, the BMW is a great car and all, but its not my style of car, thats all.
you guys have fun with your cars, i will still be driving, the NSX, the Hachi, supra and all them other tuners.

Way to be a tool.

I *will* have fun *drifting* all of the new cars and gloat about it to guys like you who want to whine and moan about what's being put up friday.

I am a big time drift enthusiast but really I am plenty happy with what's being put up despite my favoirte car not being in there. At least we're getting SOMETHING!

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this muppet here...............................

i aint even going to say nothing, dont want to start nothing. but its dudes like you, who are always the ones who want to start some S**T.

yo dude, is there like another sim game on the 360 i can play??? wheres the enthusia for 360 at!?
i want to drift down dragon range again, but man the PS2 controller for racing/drifting games is HORRIBLE, imagine having a on/off button for your gas, not good, not good at all. no throttle control or nothing.

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ThePlecostomus:

Way to be a tool.

I *will* have fun *drifting* all of the new cars and gloat about it to guys like you who want to whine and moan about what's being put up friday.

I am a big time drift enthusiast but really I am plenty happy with what's being put up despite my favoirte car not being in there. At least we're getting SOMETHING!

Didn't we just go through the "everyone's entitled to their own opinion" thing? Why are you jumping all over him for saying which cars he's going to use? I re-read through what he said earlier and there's no "whining" or "moaning". Go ahead and say what you want to say about the dlc but there's no reason to call people names because they don't like the same stuff you like.

Dre:

yo dude, is there like another sim game on the 360 i can play???

I hear that GTR is coming to the 360 eventually. That game is waaaaaaaaay on the simulation side of racing but it's all pro circuit racing. If you want something closer to what you were talking about eearlier (touge and drift) then you're kind of out of luck unless they come out with a Tokyo Extreme Racer: Drift for the 360. That series isn't too great though.

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Vicious136:

ThePlecostomus:

Way to be a tool.

I *will* have fun *drifting* all of the new cars and gloat about it to guys like you who want to whine and moan about what's being put up friday.

I am a big time drift enthusiast but really I am plenty happy with what's being put up despite my favoirte car not being in there. At least we're getting SOMETHING!

Didn't we just go through the "everyone's entitled to their own opinion" thing? Why are you jumping all over him for saying which cars he's going to use? I re-read through what he said earlier and there's no "whining" or "moaning". Go ahead and say what you want to say about the dlc but there's no reason to call people names because they don't like the same stuff you like.

Dre:

yo dude, is there like another sim game on the 360 i can play???

I hear that GTR is coming to the 360 eventually. That game is waaaaaaaaay on the simulation side of racing but it's all pro circuit racing. If you want something closer to what you were talking about eearlier (touge and drift) then you're kind of out of luck unless they come out with a Tokyo Extreme Racer: Drift for the 360. That series isn't too great though.

man the only game that comes close to tokyo extreme racer is that tuner challenge, but i dont want that,i never even played it before actully. i want a drift version though. dude imagine, kaido battle, but with forza2 physics, thats one HELL of a game right there yo. the physics is the ONLY thing i dont really like in kaido battle(tokyo extreme racer/drift) or even if kaido battle had enthusia physics. DUDE!!! they need to release another tokyo extreme drift for the 360, I will be the first in line to cop that joint!!! i want to pick up TXDrift 2 but i dont like playing with the PS2 controller, so i'll pass. i dont like having a on/off button for the throttle, no thorttle control or nothing, not good at all.

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Gamertag: KageKuro Dre

ok so.. if you pause the video at 20 seconds or 21 seconds you can see that there is clearly 2 e30 m3's, now a lot of people are saying its an 1987 m3 it is infact a 1991 m3 sport evo 3 which can be seen by the adjustable spoiler on the tan car. only the evo 3 model had this spoiler. this is a great thing because the evo 3 had 238 horsepower instead of 195 in the us version of the car.

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Vicious136 vrote:

"  All the cars in this xpac, with the exception of the Trans Am, are very good road cars and are engineered to take corners well.  "

 

  Hmm, I guess you`ve never driven a 1st gen Trans Am?  Well I have. Including a 550+hp monsterstrong 462cui rollercam-enegine giving next to none tiregrip up to about 100mph, making the old Pontiac outrace type R-bikes and mostly anything with licenceplates on. Stock suspension, including a original roadholding-kit; allmost impossible to drive it over the edge, feels like it`s glued to the road.

  Why? Unlike all other US-built cars at that time the Trans Am was built for roadhandling. And the constructor John DeLorean knew what he was doing from years in European sportscarindustri. Now let`s see if  "turn10" knows what they`re doing 

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I would have to disagree with the 'glued to the road' comment.  For its day, the Trans Am was a competent road car.  Very stiff springs and the addition of a rear sway bar (and larger diameter front) gave it some lateral stability.  Be that as it may, it still utilized a LA/SA front setup with leaf springs in the rear and a solid axle.  I have owned several first and second generation Camaros and Firebirds and they are a handful without some serious suspension work.  Again, for that time, they were certainly capable compared to what was out there.  Compared to todays coil over front and multi-link rear setups on cars of the same genre, there is no comparison.  Let's not forget tire technology as well, but that is a whole other discussion.  Can't wait for the T/A and Road America!!!!  :)

Mighty Rooster:

I would have to disagree with the 'glued to the road' comment.  For its day, the Trans Am was a competent road car.  Very stiff springs and the addition of a rear sway bar (and larger diameter front) gave it some lateral stability.  Be that as it may, it still utilized a LA/SA front setup with leaf springs in the rear and a solid axle.  I have owned several first and second generation Camaros and Firebirds and they are a handful without some serious suspension work.  Again, for that time, they were certainly capable compared to what was out there.  Compared to todays coil over front and multi-link rear setups on cars of the same genre, there is no comparison.  Let's not forget tire technology as well, but that is a whole other discussion.  Can't wait for the T/A and Road America!!!!  :)

Very eloquently put! But you're forgetting to factor in weight. Generally speaking, a lighter car will handle better than a heavier car. It's simple physics. The '91 M3 weighs around 2800 lbs. With modern super cars like the ones included in this dlc, you're looking at an average of around 3000 lbs. With the Trans Am however, you're looking at close to 4000 lbs. That's a pretty hefty weight increase. That, coupled with the suspension and tire set ups Rooster mentioned doesn't paint a great picture when it comes to handling. I'm fairly certain that all the cars in this dlc pack would leave that Trans Am in the dust on the twisties.

I'm not saying that the Trans Am is a bad car, I'm just saying that it's not quite up to par with the rest of the cars included. 

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- Vicious136 -

Looks like this is going to be a popular DLC, these are some awesome cars.


I think one or two of them should have been in the game from the start though... *cough*R8*cough*

DeCLouie:

BigBadVlad:

Well I spotted:

Ferrari FXX

Ferrari 599GTB

Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera

Koeniggsegg CCGT

1987-1992 BMW M3 E30

1985 Audi Quattro Sport

Audi R8

1980's Renault R5 Turbo (Or something like that)

1970'ish Pontiac Trans Am

and the hard to spot Porsche 911 GT1

SWEET!!!

looks pretty acurate to me. So theres 1 car missing in the vid.

I am really happy with the list.

 

could the missing car be the r2   aston martin dbr 9  ??? 

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I just dont understand why Turn 10 wont invest making a 400m/ 1/4 test track for tuning or a 1/4 mile race. Don't get me wrong I love the other tracks than just racing 400m. I just feel it will bring alot of tuner heads that want to race a 1/4 mile rather than just doing long track laps.
I would bet anything that by putting a 400m/1/4 mile track will have more download hits than any other track that been made from Turn 10 for DLC. That's me 2 cents!!

Mighty Rooster:

I would have to disagree with the 'glued to the road' comment.  For its day, the Trans Am was a competent road car.  Very stiff springs and the addition of a rear sway bar (and larger diameter front) gave it some lateral stability.  Be that as it may, it still utilized a LA/SA front setup with leaf springs in the rear and a solid axle.  I have owned several first and second generation Camaros and Firebirds and they are a handful without some serious suspension work.  Again, for that time, they were certainly capable compared to what was out there.  Compared to todays coil over front and multi-link rear setups on cars of the same genre, there is no comparison.  Let's not forget tire technology as well, but that is a whole other discussion.  Can't wait for the T/A and Road America!!!!  :)

  You`re mixing apples & oranges.  Neither Camaros or Firebirds had a suspension like the Trans Am, as you partly mention. If you`ve put a monster-enegine like the one I`ve been driving into a Camaro or Firebird the car woukl be dangerous, but in the TransAm we were surprised and impressed by the way it handled the power. The car was raced against R-bikes and hot street-cars like turbo Supra, Viper and other modern cars, allways impressing.

(550+hps from a rollercam Pontiac 462cui is way stronger than 700 Supra/Skyline pump-hps for the Jap-boys.)

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Fairlane305:

 You`re mixing apples & oranges.  Neither Camaros or Firebirds had a suspension like the Trans Am, as you partly mention. If you`ve put a monster-enegine like the one I`ve been driving into a Camaro or Firebird the car woukl be dangerous, but in the TransAm we were surprised and impressed by the way it handled the power. The car was raced against R-bikes and hot street-cars like turbo Supra, Viper and other modern cars, allways impressing.

(550+hps from a rollercam Pontiac 462cui is way stronger than 700 Supra/Skyline pump-hps for the Jap-boys.)

I was under the impression that the Trans Am and Firebird were different option packages on the same car. If that is the case it wouldn't make any sense to say that a Trans Am can handle a certain amount of power and a Firebird can't Also, what year Trans Am are we talking about here?

I guess I'm a little confused as to what you're arguing here. Before ou said that a Trans Am could handle just as good as any current sports car because of it's suspension set up or something but what you're saying now is all about power. It sounds like you're talking about drag racing and that has nothing to do with how well a car can handle corners. I'm sure good ol' American iron can keep up with Japanese or European sports cars in a straight line but I really have a hard time believing that a big v8 powered muscle car from the '70s that weighs as much as a Ford Crown Victoria would keep up with any Skyline, Supra, 3-series, or Italian exotic on a road course. There's just no way.

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Trans Am = Firebird ;)  Though the Trans Am does come with a better suspension package (newer ones only the WS6 comes with the suspension package), the most powerful motor available, and slightly different looking body.

anyone ever suggest the new skyline......the proto......just saying....cause nfsps made a huge deal about....and i just think turn 10 wud put it on to compete more with them.  AND NO ONE SAY THAT ONE IS AN ARCADE AND ONES A SIM....cause i know....but people buy nfs over forza.....so dont say anything, ive heard it all.....and a racing game is a racing game so....w.e and i think theyll eventually put a drag strip in, just have to push it like drifting....how so many people wanted drifting and eventually it became just as/more popular then racing on here so i dk

PS: dont get prostreet anyone.  I got it for my b-day....and the king guy is in an evo....he drifts.....and then he does wheelies in a wheelie comp....so right

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Kj-Renegade:

I just dont understand why Turn 10 wont invest making a 400m/ 1/4 test track for tuning or a 1/4 mile race.

Probably for the same reason you wont find a rally stage in the game....

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"If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough"

-Mario Andretti

Does anyone know what time they'll be releasing the DLC?

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