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BBR Pale Rider:

R2P Henniker:

You should know the teams pay little attention to what Turn 10 say is ok, up till a few months ago they were ok with bump drafting! Did any of the teams do it? No

You make a good point here Henniker.  I just found out about this tire glitch a few days ago and once I found out that Che said it was OK and already widely used, I tentatively used it with a couple different cars (none of which are fast enough to post times on the scoreboards).  I was told multiple times that this was OK and I wrongly assumed that I was one of the last people to know about this trick.

R2P Henniker:

Whilst my words are strong i am extremly supprised that TRC are the main team involved in this, and slightly disappointed when trying to discuss this with some of your members they don't see the problem.

I haven't seen the scoreboard for this HLC today other than here on the site (just woke up and am watching the Big 12 championship game) so I cannot say how many fellow TRC members have used my build/setup, but I don't think that we are the main team involved, rather I am the main person involved.  Like I said above, I wrongly assumed that everyone was already doing this and was assured this was a legit way to build the cars so that is how I built it.  I certainly hope the other clubs (and individuals not associated with clubs) will understand that the main problem is me and will not look at TRC in a negative light. 

Given the outspoken negativity towards this tire issue, I certainly won't use it again regardless of circumstances.  I also would like to see my time removed from the HLC so that I can post a time with a build not using this tire glitch.  My other builds are just as fast anyway but they have those ugly, stock Aston Martin rims :shudders:  and IMO, the real trick to fast times in this car is the gearing, not which rims you can fit under the car. 

In closing, I'd like to apologize to those that feel I have cheated in this HLC and I'd like to apologize to my TRC teammates for putting them in a situation where they have to defend themselves and other teammates.  I built the cars, I tuned the cars and I gifted them to teammates to use.  If other TRC members have posted times with these cars, it is very likely they didn't know how the car was built, only that it was fast.  This was an honest mistake made by me, based on the information that was provided to me at the time.

Sincerely,

Pale

Solo,

could u be so gentle to explain me how this "glitch" work?

if you want this hlc to be even just tell everyone how it is done or delete the hlc, just even the playing field

TMM TOM1111:

whats this line crossing cheat???
forza is as bad PGR

TRC Pale Rider:

Well I did some testing with this Aston Martin and I found that using the regular tires and removing 21 horsepower, using the stock driveline and wheels, I ended with better acceleration and I ran a 1:10.625 lap. Considering my fastest lap with the "glitched" car is 1:10.619 I honestly don't see what the fuss is all about. There may be advantages with certain cars on certain tracks, but the fact is that we will never know who is using this and who is not.
Without concrete proof, as was the case with the AWD glitch and its telemetry readings, there is no possible way to single out the use of the tire glitch. Therefore, even if Turn10 does fix the glitch, they won't know which times to wipe and which ones to leave alone. That in itself leads to only two possible solutions to ensure scoreboard integrity. 1) Make the tire glitch legal to use and have all the teams come to agreement on usage or 2) make it illegal to use and wipe the entire scoreboard. I tend to lean towards option #1 and I have absolutely zero times posted on the scoreboard with this tire glitch.

ferrousfurball:

+1 haha

lets even the playin field so every1 knows how its done
then every1 can do it an no1 will complain then :p

dude its sad

since this ******** ruining a hlc and could (or already doing?) ruin scoreboards....

TMM TOM1111:

whats this line crossing cheat???
forza is as bad PGR

TMM TOM1111:

whats this line crossing cheat???
forza is as bad PGR

Why *** and moan, I'm sure someone will post how to for the glitch so everyone will be on the same playing field.

Honestly, if this thing works how everyone says it does, why should we not be allowed to change the brand of the stock tire compound?  The only reason we can't is because there is no choice in the UI normally but it is more realistic we be able to do it.  I'm all for that.

Incidentally, with no tuning whatsoever, only the upgrades (not using the glitch either) I ran a 1:12.4 in a few laps with ease.  After the car gets tuned, I can see it getting 1:10's easy.

Drama drama drama.. :)

line crossing  thang is he talking about is taking the last corner very early and slower to get a lenghened run at the start finish for a hot lap. Then the Swingout past the codes at the end of the pit lane to widen corner one. People will go to extreme lengths to come first. i just threw random parts on my car and used a generic tune calculator then finally i made a priddy curve with my gears.
im like a retard with crayons when it comes to tuning  

Anub1s:

dude its sad

since this ******** ruining a hlc and could (or already doing?) ruin scoreboards....

Anub1s:

ferrousfurball:

+1 haha

lets even the playin field so every1 knows how its done
then every1 can do it an no1 will complain then :p

dude its sad

since this ******** ruining a hlc and could (or already doing?) ruin scoreboards....

factory:

Cutting pitlane entrance

Watch the last part of this lap.  This is why I laugh at those that call it cheating. 

Cutting pitlane exit

Every one of them cut here.....

R2P Henniker:

Factory how can you claim that the way someone sets a car up is a glitch, i even gave TRC a 206 set up with 55 55 tire pressures when i was in the team. So again something completely different, whilst something i don't like its the way they physics work.