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  •  06-27-2007, 9:38 AM 385788 in reply to 385615

    Re: Transmission Calculator

    thank you for this brotha!!!!!!!  i dl it last night but did not get a chance to use it... haha... pretty bz with my baby girl, so i will try this out tonight... too bad i can't download it here at work, i might get in trouble with mega upload, haha... thanks again!!!!!   
  •  06-27-2007, 9:43 AM 385811 in reply to 385788

    Re: Transmission Calculator

    LOL - yup, little babies do have a way of taking over your life, don't they?  Have fun with the spread sheet.

    Smile [:)] $


    GT=Blooze46/GICheeze

    Forza-Tuning
  •  06-27-2007, 9:53 AM 385865 in reply to 385498

    Re: Transmission Calculator V 1.0 - 06/25/07

    LOL great post  now pick up your rattle that you have thrown out of the pram.

     

  •  06-27-2007, 11:14 AM 386448 in reply to 385811

    Re: Transmission Calculator

    What an excelent description of how to set up a gearbox, and a spreadsheet to calculate it all for you, thanks a lot, I'm going to enjoy tinkering with this, and it certainly should help me get my gearbox working for me rather than against me.

     

    thanks a lot Blooze Big Smile [:D]

  •  06-27-2007, 11:56 AM 386758 in reply to 386448

    Re: Transmission Calculator

    You're welcome DM2.  Thanks for the kind words.  Have fun...

    Smile [:)] $


    GT=Blooze46/GICheeze

    Forza-Tuning
  •  06-27-2007, 12:06 PM 386859 in reply to 386758

    Re: Transmission Calculator

    Just downloaded the Calc here at work. Looks like a pain in the butt. After work I can sit down and read it all and do the plug n play. I am sure it is pretty easy to get the info as you explained where it is all at. Thanks Blooze for the calc. I am sure someone will take the information and make an easy on the eyes version like suspensin Calc. Keep up the work and Thanks!Smile [:)]
    Pain is weakness leaving the body and I am winning!
  •  06-27-2007, 12:09 PM 386895 in reply to 386758

    Re: Transmission Calculator

    The link to the calculator seems to be broken.  Could someone please email it to me?  I'll PM my email address if you can.  Thanks.
  •  06-27-2007, 12:16 PM 386954 in reply to 386895

    Re: Transmission Calculator

    I just tried it and it is working fine.  If you are at work, I would suspect your company's firewall is the culprit.

    Smile [:)] $


    GT=Blooze46/GICheeze

    Forza-Tuning
  •  06-27-2007, 12:27 PM 387019 in reply to 386954

    Re: Transmission Calculator

    Thanks again for this work Blooze.  I played with it last night, and only feedback I have so far is:

     

    You might want to stress a bit more in your posts this tool is about understanding what changes are doing, figuring out what is most likely better, and finding shift points.  I personally thought this was going to be telling me the gear settings to try directly.  Which I consider an error on my part, not yours, there were comments in your posts that implied this(that this is a test sheeting, not an answers sheet), but nothing really said it.  The last line of the second post is as close as you come to outright saying this though(and that was added after I had already set an incorrect expectation in my head).

     

    By Edit - spending too much time working on modular crap and expecting direct answers from the stuff I don't write myself :P


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  •  06-27-2007, 12:34 PM 387086 in reply to 386954

    Re: Transmission Calculator

    I am at work and you are probably correct.  Sad [:(]

     

    I tried again just for the heck of it and it worked. 

  •  06-27-2007, 1:43 PM 387633 in reply to 387019

    Re: Transmission Calculator

    Target17:

    You might want to stress a bit more in your posts this tool is about understanding what changes are doing, figuring out what is most likely better, and finding shift points.  I personally thought this was going to be telling me the gear settings to try directly.  Which I consider an error on my part, not yours, there were comments in your posts that implied this, but nothing really said it.  The last line of the second post is as close as you come to outright saying this though(and that was added after I had already set an incorrect expectation in my head).

    Managing expectations - ah the watch word for software marketing.  You are probably correct.

    The thing is, it can help you with what changes can be made.  It is just that the process of it is a bit nebulous, if you know what I mean.  Getting nebulous with someone who is flopping around over the straight up math is a fruitless activity.  Look at what happened with that one guy and the Peak Torque thing - "Where is it" when he had just typed it... What I figured is that a lot of the finer points of using the tool would come after folks had it in place and were a bit more comfortable with it.  I imagine the ones that are uncomfortable with a spread sheet are hesitant to change any values for fear they will break it.

    Using the example:  We have us a Stroker monster here.  If you shift at 6400 RPM, you are in the redline and a heartbeat from the rev limiter, in fact you may find yourself short shifting it to keep from landing on the rev limiter like a ton of bricks and maybe burning your engine - definitly going to cost you in the drag race to the first corner.  The torque at that point is 500 ftlbs higher than where you will land after you shift - in other words, you've got torque to spare in first gear.  Also, look at the speed table - 53 mph when you shift, and 60 is just 800 rpm away.

    So, let's see if we can take advantage of all that torque and get to 60 before shifting.  Will this be an improvement?  You will have to drive it to see.  But since we have so much torque up here, it most likely will be.  Remember the number 3075 (torque at our 2nd gear entry point).  If we get below that number with our new gear then we most likely are going to be slower.  Lets take little bites of this thing and see what happens.  I goofed around and finally settled on 2.54.  This gives me 60.7 mph at 6400 rpm in first gear.  And I still have more torque than I would have had shifting into second with the previous gearing.  But now 2nd is all boogered and the entry point is 5000 rpm.  I will need to let it out some too.

    And that is pretty much how it goes.  Doing it a few times and driving the results will help you get a little better at this.  You will know when you are doing some good and when you are just pissin' in the wind.

    Smile [:)]


    GT=Blooze46/GICheeze

    Forza-Tuning
  •  06-27-2007, 2:25 PM 388058 in reply to 386758

    Re: Transmission Calculator

    Awesome!!! Can't wait to try this out tonight!! I promise I'll read things at least twice Wink [;)]


    And fuerdog forgot the other noob question:
    "Can I send you my car and you tune it for me???:

    Wink [;)]



    Who wants a banana?
  •  06-27-2007, 2:45 PM 388281 in reply to 388058

    Re: Transmission Calculator

    Oh D*mn, sort of like tossing me the keys and sayin' "wash 'er for me, I'll be right back."

    I guess you can imagine how far that gets with me...

    Big Smile [:D] $


    GT=Blooze46/GICheeze

    Forza-Tuning
  •  06-27-2007, 3:58 PM 389026 in reply to 388281

    Re: Transmission Calculator

    Blooze, your tool is a great addition in my gear tuning tool belt(with the 'squint at graph', 'those gear lines don't overlap much right?' and 'this feels better' tools :) ).  I just was hoping for something to replace my tool belt. :)

     

    Having little gearing fun outside of the shake and bake level of tuning of FM1 - Is there anything we can add to the spreadsheet to help with the time to speed of this gearing?  (IE helping to identify when the 5 mile straight is required for whats in the sheet?) Reason I ask is I often find myself reaching for 6th to not have enough torque at the wheels to push through the air at anything but a turtles acceleration.  Which normally forces quite a bit of shuffle as I mess with things to try to max quick to reach top speed.

     

    Another thing I noticed last night in my testing - changing my aero settings forced a remap of 6th*FinalDrive for max speed.  This makes perfect sense(changed drag and all) but I didn't think about it, and instead stumbled on it.


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  •  06-28-2007, 11:39 AM 395888 in reply to 388281

    Re: Transmission Calculator

    Blooze:

    Oh D*mn, sort of like tossing me the keys and sayin' "wash 'er for me, I'll be right back."

    I guess you can imagine how far that gets with me...

    Big Smile [:D] $

    Cool, you wash cars too?!  Start with my D-class and work your way up,....I have about 130 cars at the moment so you'll be busy for a bit.  I'll take care of the forums while you're gone, OK?


    FM4 Suspension Calculator
    [Mod edit - link removed - Worm]
    Tweaked and optimized for FM4.
  •  06-28-2007, 1:00 PM 396584 in reply to 395888

    Re: Transmission Calculator

    May I mirror this in my own webspace so a simple link to an HTTP download can be used rather than going through that piece of *** megaupload site where you're bombarded with advertisements and forced to wait to download a 30 kilobyte file?
  •  06-28-2007, 1:10 PM 396667 in reply to 396584

    Re: Transmission Calculator

    I don't know what you mean by "Mirror" it.  I suppose it doesn't matter - once you have it, you have it and I really don't have the resources to track it, or why would I - it is Newton that came up with most of the ideas.  It would chap me if somebody else started taking credit for it.  And I like having a hit count (392 currently) but that's uncontrollable also.

    I would appreciate a by line.

    And I really don't want to be tabbed as the guy to go to if the people on your website have trouble with it.

    So, do what you want...

    Smile [:)]


    GT=Blooze46/GICheeze

    Forza-Tuning
  •  06-28-2007, 1:19 PM 396739 in reply to 396667

    Re: Transmission Calculator

    Blooze:

    I don't know what you mean by "Mirror" it.  I suppose it doesn't matter - once you have it, you have it and I really don't have the resources to track it, or why would I - it is Newton that came up with most of the ideas.  It would chap me if somebody else started taking credit for it.  And I like having a hit count (392 currently) but that's uncontrollable also.

    I would appreciate a by line.

    And I really don't want to be tabbed as the guy to go to if the people on your website have trouble with it.

    So, do what you want...

    Smile [:)]

    Edit: removed link - it was pointing to an out of date file.

    Feel free to add that link to your original post... unless you're that concerned about the post count thing.  I hate those "upload sites" that make you click various links and look at advertisements and then wait to download a file... I figured other people do too and would appreciate a direct HTTP download link.

  •  06-28-2007, 1:49 PM 397008 in reply to 389026

    Re: Transmission Calculator

    Target17:

    Having little gearing fun outside of the shake and bake level of tuning of FM1 - Is there anything we can add to the spreadsheet to help with the time to speed of this gearing?  (IE helping to identify when the 5 mile straight is required for whats in the sheet?) Reason I ask is I often find myself reaching for 6th to not have enough torque at the wheels to push through the air at anything but a turtles acceleration.  Which normally forces quite a bit of shuffle as I mess with things to try to max quick to reach top speed.

    If you have the combination of your sixth gear and your FD set so that you have enough thump to recover most of your top speed before the finish line of Nissan when you come off the straight and your sixth gear is not quite used up, then you have all your are going to get out of that car no matter if you can find a 30 mile straight.

    Smile [:)] $


    GT=Blooze46/GICheeze

    Forza-Tuning
  •  06-28-2007, 1:51 PM 397026 in reply to 396739

    Re: Transmission Calculator

    Forza2Freak:
    Blooze:

    I don't know what you mean by "Mirror" it.  I suppose it doesn't matter - once you have it, you have it and I really don't have the resources to track it, or why would I - it is Newton that came up with most of the ideas.  It would chap me if somebody else started taking credit for it.  And I like having a hit count (392 currently) but that's uncontrollable also.

    I would appreciate a by line.

    And I really don't want to be tabbed as the guy to go to if the people on your website have trouble with it.

    So, do what you want...

    Smile [:)]

    Feel free to add that link to your original post... unless you're that concerned about the post count thing.  I hate those "upload sites" that make you click various links and look at advertisements and then wait to download a file... I figured other people do too and would appreciate a direct HTTP download link.

    I downloaded it a couple times testing it and didn't think it was all that big a deal.  Where else are you going to put the link?


    GT=Blooze46/GICheeze

    Forza-Tuning
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