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Last post 10-10-2009, 2:01 PM by Vellicate. 58 replies.
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  •  10-09-2009, 7:57 PM 3035087 in reply to 3034935

    Re: Crate motors (not just swaps from other cars)

    Ghoztmazta1:
    i hope i can see a Honda H22 engine swap to any Honda car there is in the game, H22 engine is Awesome!!!

    personally the h22 is a bit too heavy and would upset the balance of the car, i think it would be better to go for something like a b18c over that



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  •  10-09-2009, 8:19 PM 3035170 in reply to 3034734

    Re: Crate motors (not just swaps from other cars)

    Jimmy Superfly2:
    SSCarsjens:
    Jimmy Superfly2:

    If you go to about 13:45 in this video you will see the engine swaps available for the Focus RS

    http://www.xboxlive.fr/news_affiche_10501.html

     

    The first one is Ford's 5.0 'Cammer' V8. This engine is built by Ford Racing and is not availible in any production cars from Ford. Seeing this makes me believe that not only will we have the ability to swap in engines from the manufacturer's other featured vehivles, but also distinct crate motors.

     

    If this is true then there is a posibility that older GM Muscle Cars could use GMPP's 572ci Bick Block and newer GM cars could use an LSX derrivitive.

     

    OT: I am deffinetly building an AWD V8 Focus RS for Gymkhana purposes.

    Definitely would love to see that!

     

    It would be sweet to have based solely on the fact that Twin Turbo's are also confirmed.

    We could make some big power NRE style.

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad8g9IfWxKI

    What do you mean twin turbos are confirmed? Explain...

  •  10-09-2009, 8:26 PM 3035199 in reply to 3035170

    Re: Crate motors (not just swaps from other cars)

    First of all,

    In the Focus RS video and another video featuring a Renault, the Aspiration section of the parts menu says specifically "single turbo kit" 

     

    Secondly,

    A credible member of Forza Central claims to have seen the Twin Turbo option on a jaguar while whatching the live streem the other day. (and frankly I believe him.)



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  •  10-09-2009, 8:32 PM 3035222 in reply to 3034524

    Re: Crate motors (not just swaps from other cars)

    AutobahnBurner:
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    Jimmy Superfly2:

    Essentially.... this is what I'm going for

     

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWW0-gQMWCc

    as badass as that is... its already been confirmed that the Evo or any other mitsubishi will have no rwd drivetrain swaps.... licensing issues : (

    First off, that sucks having no RWD Evos.

    Second, WHY WOULD YOU PUT AN LS1 IN AN EVO? People have gotten 1000+ horsepower out of the standard 4 cyl engine!

    You may be able to get that kind of power out of the motor but it wouldn't be nearly as efficient.  You'll be worse off than the hundreds of supras that have over a thousand horsepower and when they drag race they run 12s.  Too much power? Nope, the power curve is just not efficient.  A lot of those Supras don't even make 200hp below 5000rpms and the evo with the same power would be even worse.  It'd take forever for a little 2.0L turbo 4 to spool up a turbo or two to make that much power, even with a crap-ton of nitrous.  That is why you would want an LS1 in an evo.

    People already complain about the turbo lag in the FQ 400 evos, just think of how bad it would be for the motor to do twice that.

  •  10-09-2009, 8:33 PM 3035227 in reply to 3035199

    Re: Crate motors (not just swaps from other cars)

    Righteous. I hope we do have the option for singles and twins on engines with more than 4 cyl. because that was something that really bugged me about fm2. It was either a single turbo or no turbo...
  •  10-09-2009, 8:41 PM 3035250 in reply to 3035227

    Re: Crate motors (not just swaps from other cars)

    Righteous indeed.

     

    I'm thinking...

     

    Take an LS9, pull off the blower, slap on two turbos, drop it in a stripped out iroc and throw on the stickiest and widest tires availible.

    vs.

    Pretty much the same process but replace LS9 with 5.4L and iroc with fox body.

     

    Now that my friend.... will be righteous! Big Smile



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  •  10-09-2009, 8:56 PM 3035289 in reply to 3035040

    Re: Crate motors (not just swaps from other cars)

    Just give me Cosworth 2.0 L engines with coreesponding racing parts and I will be happy. That's all I want in my Ford Fiesta.
  •  10-10-2009, 12:43 AM 3035965 in reply to 3035289

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    I wonder if these new options in FM3, will allow me to install a TVR AJP8 V8 engine in the TVR Sagaris.

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  •  10-10-2009, 1:31 AM 3036055 in reply to 3034481

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    This is Real GYMkhana

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJrEJb0HaeY 



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  •  10-10-2009, 1:36 AM 3036063 in reply to 3035222

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    that LS1 evo is pretty cool.

    But you cant back anything up with this 9 sec street legal Evo, on pump gas....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFB1S4T6B98



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  •  10-10-2009, 1:40 AM 3036070 in reply to 3035965

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    the ford rs200 engine for the focus was also very appealing.


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  •  10-10-2009, 1:49 AM 3036082 in reply to 3036070

    Re: Crate motors (not just swaps from other cars)

    Papa Hortis:
    the ford rs200 engine for the focus was also very appealing.

     

    I'll save that one for my fiesta



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  •  10-10-2009, 2:40 AM 3036175 in reply to 3036063

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    I dont get what you mean... around here there are quite a few 9 and 8 second street cars with full interiors that are not tubbed..  all of them are v8 powered
  •  10-10-2009, 3:40 AM 3036257 in reply to 3036175

    Re: Crate motors (not just swaps from other cars)

    DruidB:
    I dont get what you mean... around here there are quite a few 9 and 8 second street cars with full interiors that are not tubbed..  all of them are v8 powered

     

    You obviosly havent heard of New Zeland we have alot of 9 and 8sec full interior non tubbed Rotors 4-pots and skylines...... 



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  •  10-10-2009, 4:30 AM 3036337 in reply to 3036257

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    makes me wonder if we can drop the 5.0L ford v8 into the miata (mazdaspeed roadster) this has been done many times in real life (do a youtube search for monster miata). and should be a licensing issue since ford owns mazda.
  •  10-10-2009, 1:07 PM 3037629 in reply to 3036257

    Re: Crate motors (not just swaps from other cars)

    FUR4I:

    DruidB:
    I dont get what you mean... around here there are quite a few 9 and 8 second street cars with full interiors that are not tubbed..  all of them are v8 powered

     

    You obviosly havent heard of New Zeland we have alot of 9 and 8sec full interior non tubbed Rotors 4-pots and skylines...... 

     

    Actually i was refering to this statement above...

     "But you cant back anything up with this 9 sec street legal Evo, on pump gas.... "

     

    We have 9,8 and even 7 second street cars with full interiors... though all the 7 sec cars ive seen are tubbed to some degree.. at least in my town...

     

    Im sure most places have similarly fast cars around... that was my point.. that a 9 second evo isnt going to be the fastest thing around...


  •  10-10-2009, 1:12 PM 3037641 in reply to 3036337

    Re: Crate motors (not just swaps from other cars)

    BorisKutkokov:
    makes me wonder if we can drop the 5.0L ford v8 into the miata (mazdaspeed roadster) this has been done many times in real life (do a youtube search for monster miata). and should be a licensing issue since ford owns mazda.

     

    Ford is still on very good terms with mazda and they still have joint venture cars...  but ford no longer has its controlling interest 33% in mazda... they sold it last year...   ford only owns around 12% of it now..  so ford no longer owns mazda...

    But i would love to see that swap...  as well as a V8 option for the RX7...  LS1 would be nice...  but id settle for a ford 5.4L swap


  •  10-10-2009, 1:58 PM 3037797 in reply to 3034432

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    "I hope just because youve watched Ken Blocks videos... You really think that's gymkhana, cause it isnt. Not even close, to what it really is.

    anyway. I cant wait to see whats in store for the swaps."

     

    I am not normally an antagonistic guy but I can't help myself here. You sound elite. I can remember comments like this as far back as when I started listening to Nirvana in 1992 and some kid at my school was like "I hope you don't think you're into grunge music because you're not". And then later when I got into Nine Inch Nails and some kid at school was running around talking about how it was "pseudo industrial music" and how Pigface and Skinny Puppy were legit. 

     From what I can tell based on several definitions (http://www.gymkhanausa.com/what_is_gymkhana.html ,  http://gymkhana.dcshoes.com/#/videos/ , http://www.yourdictionary.com/gymkhana) what Ken Block does not only fits the description, but it is how it is promoted by his sponsors. Notice the "gymkhana.dcshoes.com" site above. 

     

    From what I can see in the videos not only is Ken Block doing gymkhana, but he is probably among the top few drivers in the world at it. I'd imagine if you watch a video of most other people attempting, yeah it might look totally different by comparison, though the real difference is that you are watching someone at the cutting edge instead of someone who, well, isn't. There is a reason why people know his name and not the names of what ever guys you've watched, it isn't an accident. That isn't how consumerism works.

     So wise one, please enlighten us fools who are so naive. What then, is this secrete gymkhana which we learn nothing about from Ken Block videos?

    Man snobs are annoying.

    Edit:

    "This is Real GYMkhana

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJrEJb0HaeY "

    here is a parallel. 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFGS1uBthO4

    doesn't sound like what you'd conventionally expect a drummer to do. When people bring something to a different level it may seem divergent from the mundane origin. Unfortunately what this kid can do isn't particularly entertaining for anyone outside of people that read drumming mags. It isn't marketable. But it is impressive in the same sense that Block is. What block does is fundamentally gymkhana. There are explosions, no crowd, no timer, judge allotted points, or donuts around a single cone, but it easily is definably gymkhana. I'm interested enough in the sport to watch someone like Block but not interested enough to watch some guy in a mini do well placed / controlled donuts around a cone.  

     



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  •  10-10-2009, 2:01 PM 3037807 in reply to 3035199

    Re: Crate motors (not just swaps from other cars)

    Jimmy Superfly2:

    First of all,

    In the Focus RS video and another video featuring a Renault, the Aspiration section of the parts menu says specifically "single turbo kit" 

     

    Secondly,

    A credible member of Forza Central claims to have seen the Twin Turbo option on a jaguar while whatching the live streem the other day. (and frankly I believe him.)

     I watched the same video feed from Jube and it was an option on the XKR to swap the supercharger for a twin turbo kit.


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