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F1 vs. IndyCar Racing - Which do you prefer?

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  •  10-05-2006, 11:30 PM 23257

    F1 vs. IndyCar Racing - Which do you prefer?

    When it comes to rock 'n roll, it’s been said that you’re either a Beatles fan or an Elvis fan.Within the world of auto racing, we can draw a similar comparison: Formula One and IndyCar racing each have their devoted adherents, and while some people are content to just watch some of the world’s greatest drivers demonstrate their skills at breathtaking speeds, more often than not fans strongly prefer one over the other. Why? And are the two motorsports really that different? FM.net contributor Rich Bryant explores the heritage of open-wheeled racing...

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  •  10-05-2006, 11:30 PM 23258 in reply to 23257

    Re: F1 vs. IndyCar Racing - Which do you prefer?

    I prefer f1, but i prefer ''stock'' car. I think formula racing is all played in the pit rater then on the track. I dont say they're not good pilot. Just that...

  •  10-05-2006, 11:50 PM 23260 in reply to 23258

    Re: F1 vs. IndyCar Racing - Which do you prefer?

    I like both!

  •  10-06-2006, 12:03 AM 23261 in reply to 23257

    Re: F1 vs. IndyCar Racing - Which do you prefer?

    I always thought of F1 to Indycar kind of like the Olympics to the Superbowl.  I think F1 and Champ Car are better series than Indycar.

    What does this have to do with Forza?  Should I watch for open wheel cars in Forza? Zip it! [:#]


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  •  10-06-2006, 12:09 AM 23262 in reply to 23258

    Re: F1 vs. IndyCar Racing - Which do you prefer?

    Drows:

    I prefer f1, but i prefer ''stock'' car. I think formula racing is all played in the pit rater then on the track. I dont say they're not good pilot. Just that...



    I completely agree with you.

    When it comes to Formula1 racing, the drivers and teams put ALOT of trust in the car and the technology behind it. While the drivers aren't neccessarily sitting back and enjoying the ride, F1 races seem to be dictated most by which drivers have the highest finances and the best pit crews. Also, since F1 cars feature aids such as traction control, it forces the drivers to learn to drive with those aids in place. If the TC system fails, the F1 driver is as good as finished.

    As for IndyCar Racing, very similar to F1 racing, the driver plays a much bigger role. One more than one occasion have I seen a driver who started near the rear of the field charge up through the pack, throughout the race, and win due to great driving skill and technique. Of course pit strategy, like all motorsports, plays a large role. But it seems to me that IndyCar drivers aren't as dependent on  the car as they are in their own skill. Great legends such as Michael S. and Mario A. are proof that it takes more than a fancy image and a fast car to win races.

    There was a FANTASTIC Texaco Motor Oil that was on TV years ago. The Crew Chief of the NASCAR Texaco team (can't remember his name), and Mario Andretti of the Indy Texaco Team, argue over which is more important. The engine or the driver. The NASCAR Crew Chief argued that the engine was what allowed the driver to go fast and win the race. Andretti argued that it was all about driving skill and strategy, not the engine, that won races. I'm not going to go in deep what was said... but it ended with what, in my opinion, is the greatest statement ever released about racing.

    Texaco NASCAR Crew Chief - "The engine is the first thing to cross the finish line"
    Texaco Indy Mario Andretti - ".......not in IndyCars...."

    TV Announcer - "Texaco Havoline Motor Oil. Made to last...."

    Of course, you could argue that the same could be said about F1 cars. But remeber.. unlike IndyCars, which feature only the tires, the shafts, the braking systems, and the gears that bind them.... F1 cars have traction control sytems, braking aids, stabilty management systems, etc, ALL of which pass over the finish line before the driver does. IndyCars? Only cold (or warm) steel, aluminum, and rubber....

    Wow, that was a nice, long, typing session! Hope you had fun reading it all!

    Cheers!  - Tum



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  •  10-06-2006, 12:22 AM 23263 in reply to 23262

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    I'm all in for F1. The car's looks are better, and I know more about it. I guess we all have different opinions. In my case, I would never watch nascar instead of a good twisty track filled with F1 cars.
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  •  10-06-2006, 1:52 AM 23279 in reply to 23263

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    formula 1 its the only type of racing ill watch besides tuner or drifting
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  •  10-06-2006, 2:41 AM 23289 in reply to 23279

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    F1 FTW.

    How can you not love watching everyone on the grid fight for place through turn 1 of lap 1?
    It is one of the most exciting things you will ever watch!
  •  10-06-2006, 2:43 AM 23290 in reply to 23289

    Re: F1 vs. IndyCar Racing - Which do you prefer?

    Atticus_:
    F1 FTW.

    How can you not love watching everyone on the grid fight for place through turn 1 of lap 1?
    It is one of the most exciting things you will ever watch!


    Well, yes but what about the rest of the race ? :p
  •  10-06-2006, 2:50 AM 23292 in reply to 23290

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    Formula 1 for me. Smile [:)]

    We got Kimi and Ferrari next year Devil [6]

     


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  •  10-06-2006, 3:06 AM 23293 in reply to 23292

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    Could this be a sign of things to come?  Maybe M$ licensing F1 after SONY's deal expires?
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  •  10-06-2006, 4:14 AM 23295 in reply to 23293

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    F1
    I got nothing with indy car, although one of the first racegames i played was an indycar game indy 500 it was called i think Smile [:)]


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  •  10-06-2006, 5:19 AM 23300 in reply to 23262

    Re: F1 vs. IndyCar Racing - Which do you prefer?

    Even though thers's a lot of aid-systems in F1 the best drivers are F1 drivers out of two reasons.
    1. They get paid BIG money.
    2. There's just so much more history and prestige in F1 then IndyCar and/or CART/Champ Car.

    And think about this.
    A lot of drivers have gone from F1 to IndyCar/Champ Car and have done really well but how many drivers have gone the other way and been really succesful?
    I can name a few but not many.

    Juan Pablo Montoya, Champ Car series winner 1999 won seven Grand Prixs during his F1-time.
    Mario Andretti won the Champ Car series four times and became F1-world champion one time.
    Jacques Villeneuve won the 1995 Champ Car-series and became F1-world champion in 1997.
    Nigel Mansel became F1-world Champion in 1992 and 1993 he won the Champ Car series. He transfered because he asked for to much money (!) from the F1-teams.

    Alex Zanardi, CART-champion two times has only scored one point in 43 F1 GP:s.
    Christiano da Matta, CART-champion in 2002 has no points in his 28 F1 GP:s

    Taking a look at the IRL I can't find a single name that's a big name i F1.

    I'm not trying to prove any point here, just giving you a tgought about where the best drivers are.

    Despite this I still enjoy most racing, Champ Car as well as F1 but I just don't understand oval racing, such as NASCAR and IRL. Whats the point in just turning left?

    If you want good and exciting racing on a real track, check out the World Touring Car Championship where Zanardi is driving today.
  •  10-06-2006, 5:27 AM 23301 in reply to 23300

    Re: F1 vs. IndyCar Racing - Which do you prefer?

    sleinad:


    Despite this I still enjoy most racing, Champ Car as well as F1 but I just don't understand oval racing, such as NASCAR and IRL. Whats the point in just turning left?




    What is the point of turning left and right ? Does it take less skill to turn left ?
  •  10-06-2006, 6:38 AM 23303 in reply to 23301

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       F1 are the superstars and cart is the wanna be's.but there cars still rock. I ndy cars go around in circles.I would love both f1 and cart in the game .Indy and nascar would be good too.Motorcycle in a down load.     Kiki merc. is the hots looking ride on the planet!
  •  10-06-2006, 7:50 AM 23306 in reply to 23257

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    Beng british I've always preferred F1, but I enjoyed watching champcar in its heyday in the early 90's.

    What has this got to do with Forza? Are we gonna see an F1 car and/or an Indycar in FM2?


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  •  10-06-2006, 8:06 AM 23309 in reply to 23303

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    F1 vs. IndyCar Racing - Which do you prefer?

    I have to say F1, if the question had been F1 vs Champcar the result would have been the same but much closer...something like 80-20 (F1-Indy) and 60-40 (F1-Champcar).

    The first reason is cultural, I'm european and am not used to that Oval racing style, at first I even thought it required less skills (...).
    Another reason would be the environment, F1 moves to the most prestigious/beautiful/interesting tracks there is to see while IndyCars move to tracks with different layouts but very similar every time.
    Last reason would be the "appeal" of the F1, it is simply the most technologically advanced (expensive) racing vehicles in the world.

    Now there are drawbacks that make me give the Champcar 20 more points.

     It's not only about speed it's about competition, what I love in Champcar compared to F1 is:
    -same chassis for all
    -same engine to all(F1 teams always try to cheat to improve this or that and some engines are clearly not competitive)
    -it's all about tuning and driver skills
    -Bourdais and Phillipe own (no don't count that one ^^)

    On the other side I'd have to say that racing on airport tracks or so isn't the best publicity for this series.

    Open wheel racing is at the top of motorsports, I watch it but it's not my favourite...I love Grand Touring and Super Touring championships all around the world...recently seen the last race of the Dutch Supercar Challenge on TV...a 300HP fwd Nissan Primera fighting a 400HP V8 powered BMW M3 GTR at Silverstone that is racing !!!

    By the way very nice article Che, any chance some open wheels in Forza 2 ?


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  •  10-06-2006, 9:03 AM 23325 in reply to 23306

    Re: F1 vs. IndyCar Racing - Which do you prefer?

    redhawk555:

    Beng british I've always preferred F1, but I enjoyed watching champcar in its heyday in the early 90's.

    What has this got to do with Forza? Are we gonna see an F1 car and/or an Indycar in FM2?



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  •  10-06-2006, 9:04 AM 23326 in reply to 23257

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    I am an Elvis Guy

    But When it comes to open wheel racing I am actually more of a Champ Car guy but if
    I had choose it would be F1.

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  •  10-06-2006, 9:10 AM 23328 in reply to 23257

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    Tough choice,....

    I choose NO OPEN WHEEL RACING IN FORZA!

    or

    F1

     

    PS: I'd rather see pick-up trucks in Forza than anymore purebred race cars/classes. 

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