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Forza Motorsport 2 Running on 1080p TVs

With the push for 1080p resolution gaming in the next generation arena, it's become ever more important to make sure that not only does your console support native 1080p (the Xbox 360 does), but also that your game looks good when push comes to shove. Which is why late last week, Big Boss Hartman rolled in a brand new 46" 1080p Samsung (S4695D) TV for the art team to tune graphics, in case folks do run the game upscaled to 1080p. Uh, you guys do know that Xbox 360 does 1080p now over your standard component cables, right? Wink [;)]

Anyway, from personal experience, 1080p over component cables gives you richer colors, while 1080p over VGA and HDMI give you a sharper picture (less ghosting with text in menus, for instance) while colors overall look a little more washed out.
As for Forza Motorsport 2 in 1080p... so far, it's looking very good. That's as much testament to the game's graphics as it is the Xbox 360's beastly resolution upscaler chip, dubbed Ana.

It's almost enough to make me run out and buy a 1080p plasma just so I can go back and play 360 games like Lost Planet and Gears of War in 1080p glory. Smile [:)]

Published Monday, February 12, 2007 10:41 PM by chespace
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rdo3 said:

che did he ground you from it till the pit passes are done?  sounds like you might like the new tv just a bit too much.   but that could be a good thing,  think you would pay a test copy ransom for a kidnapped tv?
February 12, 2007 7:13 PM
 

chespace said:

Sorry, no Pitpass this week. I'm way too into this TV!
February 12, 2007 7:15 PM
 

FusionFace said:

Awesome i thought it would just be 720p/1080i. Just bought a new 1080p monitor
February 12, 2007 7:28 PM
 

DaFish said:

Wow... to bad the projector set-up I got only does 720p, oh well its still 119' inches + 7.1!!
February 12, 2007 7:49 PM
 

Gouger said:

I have a 40" Samsung LCD that does 720p, but now I want a 1080p set. Damn, trying to keep up with the Jones is expensive. Maybe next year.
February 12, 2007 7:51 PM
 

racerg said:

1080p, awesome.

I want that.
February 12, 2007 9:07 PM
 

chespace said:

Yeah, I've only got a 720p/1080i tv at home as well.

I'd sooner save up money for my MX-5 Miada though.

February 12, 2007 9:10 PM
 

racerg said:

Sound like the right idea.

Saving towards building a new Core2 Box myself... maybe next year.
February 12, 2007 9:27 PM
 

Chewbacca IV said:

Miata Che, Miata... lol
If thats the loading screen, it looks pretty cool!
February 12, 2007 9:58 PM
 

bimmerlovere39 said:

Wait, Che, were you being serious when you said no pitpass?
February 12, 2007 10:05 PM
 

FusionFace said:

I dont think he was serious about the no pitpass thing...just cause of all the hate mail and angry forum posts they'd be sure to get... :)
February 12, 2007 11:44 PM
 

RD Olivaw said:

I'm happy to say that my 1080p Samsung DLP is ready and waiting for Forza2 :)
February 12, 2007 11:44 PM
 

d-suhiti said:

I've got a 40" LCD HDTV which supports 720p/1080i connected through VGA. I don't mind though, everything looks sooo good.

Oh, and please tell me there is still a pitpass this week (I'm pretty sure there is one).

Awesome for something new.
February 13, 2007 3:08 AM
 

rdo3 said:

no bimmer,  was was just giving me flack back.  he'll get the pitpass done,  we were both just joking.  i'm not really gonna kidnap the tv and threaten to kill it if i dont get a test copy either.
February 13, 2007 5:21 AM
 

KyBoOtEr said:

Do all 1080p tvs support 1080p through component?
February 13, 2007 10:47 AM
 

XCola said:

Che, I hope you werent serious about there being no pitpass this week.  I might have a heart attack.
February 13, 2007 12:52 PM
 

Indreju said:

No, not all TV's support 1080p through component.  Friend has a Sony that will only do 1080p through HDMI.
February 13, 2007 3:03 PM
 

DaFish said:

But it has HDMI though right?
February 13, 2007 3:19 PM
 

chespace said:

There will be a pitpass this week.

Can you imagine the s***storm that would ensue if there wasn't one? :P
February 13, 2007 3:36 PM
 

diskreet said:

The fact that they are willing to put 1080p over component cables is good for us with the cable, but with HD DVD it's also not protected. It's surprising from MS.
Anyway, the screen looks great and I can't wait for some more news/pics/videos!!!
February 13, 2007 5:50 PM
 

d-suhiti said:

Yeh, the Forza Forums and espesially Forza Central will be on fire from the whiners. I can't even imagine it...........

BTW, Che - are you expecting to release the first part of the car list in the Pitpass or randomly during this week??
February 13, 2007 7:03 PM
 

DaFish said:

I wounder what that screen is (a loading screen)? I noticed another variation of the Forza logo looks like the letters FM then 2.
February 13, 2007 9:08 PM
 

Indreju said:

Loading screen

at least that's the most logical
February 13, 2007 9:20 PM
 

Skate Zilla said:

To Me It Looks Like one of the first 60 or so frames of the opening video, and the FM2 and smaller text is the "driving Responsible" warnings and crap
February 13, 2007 9:34 PM
 

d-suhiti said:

Yeh, it looks like the loading screen with the description of what Zilla said.

LOL, 1 lame pic and we are all over it.
February 13, 2007 9:41 PM
 

VinDiesel075 said:

how much different is the 1080p then 1080i is it really worth going out and buying a tv if i already have 1080i
February 13, 2007 9:47 PM
 

Chewbacca IV said:

Dont think so. i could bet its a loading screen and the small font text is a "tip" given before each race. I was trying to make up something but im stuck at "While reving, ..." *_*
February 13, 2007 9:49 PM
 

d-suhiti said:

Yeh that could be it - we will find out soon enough ;)

I've got the same question as VinDiesel, I don't think it will be such a huge difference - but I heard that if you have a 720p/1080i compatible HDTV, it's better to play video games at 720p due to the quicker refresh rates in quick/fast paced games such as racing, shooter etc.

What do you guys think about this??
February 13, 2007 9:56 PM
 

DaFish said:

Your exactly right about that... 1080i has the same detail and sharpness as 1080p, but the interlaced signal has a lower refresh rate (or something to that effect) which is great for games and TV shows that are NOT fast paced like a racer or shooter.

So if you have a 720p/1080i, your way better off using the progressive signal (720p) for Forza.
February 13, 2007 10:50 PM
 

DaFish said:

I meant "not fast paced UNLIKE a racer or shooter"
February 13, 2007 10:58 PM
 

d-suhiti said:

Yeh, thanks for the response. I know have my HDTV set up the way it needs to be :D
February 13, 2007 11:13 PM
 

rdo3 said:

sorry che,  i'll keep the joking to the forums,  evidently blogs aren't the place for it. on the bright side i didn't see "turn ten drops consumer suport" with a link to this as proof,  or at all.  people take you dead seriouse,  your every word.  it's like you are a god,  an uber god.  if the regular god didn't have a since of humor there wouldn't be humans,  or humans to post on forums.

also no reply needed or wanted,  i dont want to be accused of yelling FIRE in the theater again.  perhaps in the update a certian color could be reserved for sarcasm and jokes so even if people dont get it they will still know it was a joke,  like inside jokes.  again my apologies.

but on the off chance you do send me a test copy i wouldn't hate you for it ;)  hint hint.
February 14, 2007 6:07 AM
 

Snow21USA said:

Can you imagine the s***storm that would ensue if there wasn't one? :P

LOL angry gamers nice comment Che made me laugh
February 14, 2007 11:50 AM
 

Telefrog said:

Sweet! I can't wait to play this on my LCD!
February 14, 2007 11:51 AM
 

racerg said:

720p looks and plays great on smaller displays 37”, 42”, 50”. Where the higher resolution (1080p) really comes into play is on larger displays approaching or exceeding 60". Just think in terms of your PC, with a 19” or 20” display, 1600 X 1200 is more than adequate, however with a 30” display you would want a higher resolution, say 2560 X 1600 to get the same detail and lack of aliasing.

1080i is interlaced and does not equal 1080p in terms of resolution and refresh rate.

I am happy to see the 360 is capable of 1080p output, makes sense when you compare it’s GPU with its PC counterparts that are capable of even higher resolutions (8800 GTX and the yet to be released X2x00 - R600 line of ATI/AMD GPU’s). Too bad we have to go through a hardware revision to get the new HANA scaler chip for digital support (HDMI/DVI).
February 19, 2007 4:09 PM
 

Xpro_360 said:

FM2 5/2007 but the day is????? come on che tell me!!!!!!!

DEMO,DEMO,DEMO,DEMO,DEMO,DEMO,DEMO,DEMO,DEMO,DEMO,DEMO x 1000000.
February 22, 2007 4:00 PM
 

Star360 said:

February 22, 2007 6:45 PM
 

forced_indukshun said:

is the new 1080p over component based on this....
TV processes the incoming signal correctly, and if it supports 1080p via component you can still play upconverted and native-1080p games .

otherwise if our TV does support 1080p over component then no dice?
February 22, 2007 6:51 PM
 

forced_indukshun said:

meant to say if our TV doesn't support 1080p over component then no dice on the 1080p dispaly?
February 22, 2007 6:59 PM
 

a67ssrs said:

My TV only supports 1080p through HDMI. What am I gonna do? I basically bought this TV for gaming, especially FM2. I am not going to want to buy another 360 that has a hardware upgrade. Is there some sort of converter plug?
February 22, 2007 9:24 PM
 

PNOIZ33 said:

"It's almost enough to make me run out and buy a 1080p plasma just so I can go back and play 360 games like Lost Planet and Gears of War in 1080p glory."

I'm down with that.  I'm saving up for a 36 or 42" plasma right now!
February 23, 2007 12:43 AM
 

CyrusG said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't gears and lost planet max out 1080i?  I'm pretty sure the first 1080p SKU is NBA Street: Homecourt.
February 23, 2007 4:27 AM
 

forced_indukshun said:

gears maxes out at 1080i and LP does too.  i saw something that said the first 1080p 360 game was a tennis game...but either way.
February 23, 2007 1:38 PM
 

I2ichie said:

Is the difference between 720p and 1080i all that great because my samsung 26’’ is best at 720p you see, but it can be pushed to 1080i. I think this could break it if use continually!!! You see.
February 23, 2007 4:36 PM
 

Graeme GTR said:

this gets confusing, is it the number or the letter that gives the best quality ? Im assuming P is better than I, but is it worth droppin to 720p from 1080i ? will my picture be better or worse ? honestly i cants tell the difference. btw, is it worth buying an HDMI cable ? is there a noticable differnce in quality?
February 25, 2007 8:32 AM
 

josh65 said:

"My TV only supports 1080p through HDMI. What am I gonna do? I basically bought this TV for gaming, especially FM2. I am not going to want to buy another 360 that has a hardware upgrade. Is there some sort of converter plug?"

It is possible to use a VGA to DVI adapter to get 1080p if your TV doesn't support 1080p over component, if your TV doesn't have DVI you can try going from VGA to DVI to HDMI using converters although i dont know how well this will work.

"gears maxes out at 1080i and LP does too.  i saw something that said the first 1080p 360 game was a tennis game...but either way."

Every xbox 360 game is upscaled to 1080p even if they dont support it natively.

"Is the difference between 720p and 1080i all that great because my samsung 26’’ is best at 720p you see, but it can be pushed to 1080i. I think this could break it if use continually!!! You see."

On a 26" display, you really are better off with 720p because you will barely notice the difference in detail and it has double the refresh rate.
February 25, 2007 5:02 PM
 

seven said:

i noticed that the 360 they were using is black... is that the new one the rumors were talking about? either way i'll be happy. i have a sony 42" 1080p lcd tv and if it will work then cool.
February 25, 2007 11:57 PM
 

autohog said:

Stoked, can't wait to get behind the wheel of the MC12 in 1080p. By the way I hope the shift paddles on the Microsoft wheel work for Forza 2.
February 26, 2007 12:54 AM
 

BestGamerPeriod said:

OMG, if we could just get some official gameplay video. We haven't had a single one since the game has been announced. Those gameplay videos on youtube can't compare to an official video.

Why don't you guys send sites demos so the can give us some direct-feed video? The lack of media for this game is crazy.

Can't wait to get it, though.
February 26, 2007 11:00 AM
 

Nubian Queen said:

Thank you Mustang04 for your observation.  I knew it was more than a coincidence.   My thoughts exactly, yes it rose my eyebrows as well. We will see how it goes on Wednesday. Hoping this time everyone is treated fairly.
February 27, 2007 12:38 PM
 

sergent ti me said:

no comment
February 27, 2007 5:08 PM
 

a67ssrs said:

I just thought I'd mention that I have Battlestations: Midway, and on the back of the box, it says it supports 1080p.
March 1, 2007 5:17 AM
 

super star said:

So is the game 720p native? I would rather it runs smooth on a  720p rather than look good on a 1080p. Just make the frame rate flawless.
March 6, 2007 3:41 PM
 

forza-mad@rpm said:

fm2 looks so f ing sweet on the 1080, pure bliss
March 10, 2007 5:38 AM
 

walky99 said:

I just want fm2 to be released. im sure it will look good on my 50" plasma....
April 10, 2007 9:28 AM
 

ItalicFerrari said:

1080 will be addictive.  If you play it on anything less you will get annoyed with the TV!
April 16, 2007 11:37 AM
 

Bi Wolf said:

I have an HDMI set, Don't know if it supports 1080p or if it is only 1080i, but I am sure I won't be playing at 720p. Can't Wait!
May 26, 2007 3:34 AM
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